MARK Hughes is hopeful that Blackburn Rovers skipper Ryan Nelsen can draw a line under the hamstring injury that has troubled him this year.
The New Zealand international is closing in on a first-team return after two months on the sidelines following a season in which he has been plagued by the injury.
Nelsen played on since the injury first flared up in September and, by his own admission, the defender said it had adversly effected his performances on the pitch.
But after a lengthy period of rest, and a reserve team outing last week, the 30-year-old Kiwi is confident the injury problem is now a thing of the past as he bids to regain his place in the Rovers rearguard and help the club's push for a European spot.
And Hughes was hopeful his captain would be able to play a major role in Blackburn's run-in.
The Rovers boss said: "We hope he can draw a line under it.
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"Ryan will have to come to terms with it on occasions.
"He will have a little bit of discomfort.
"But he understands that now, when you have really significant injuries, there's always a price to pay.
"But it's not going to hamper him significantly.
"When he comes back, we all expect his form to be very good because he's fit and well now."
"He's such a genuine guy," said Hughes. "In his own mind, he wanted to make sure he was helping the side but in the end, the injury was compromising him too much."
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 10:46am Wed 26 Mar 08
dont know what it is but we still dont look secure at the back regardless which pairing are the central defenders.
hopefully the admirals return to fitness coincides with us becoming a more solid back four.
a few clean sheets between now and the end of the season would be appreciated (with us banging loads of goals in at the other end of course).
anyway as usual to all you rovers fans out there
KEEP THE FAITH
dont know what it is but we still dont look secure at the back regardless which pairing are the central defenders.
hopefully the admirals return to fitness coincides with us becoming a more solid back four.
a few clean sheets between now and the end of the season would be appreciated (with us banging loads of goals in at the other end of course).
anyway as usual to all you rovers fans out there
KEEP THE FAITH
Posted by: Darren, Anglesey on 11:24am Wed 26 Mar 08
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don't come close.
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don't come close.
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 12:04pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Darren[/bold] wrote:
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don't come close.[/quote] in some respects your right, the only problem with those two is a lack of pace. in saying that if vogel is the type of holding player that sits in front of the back four then that may not be a problem.
KEEP THE FAITH
Darren wrote:
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don't come close.
in some respects your right, the only problem with those two is a lack of pace. in saying that if vogel is the type of holding player that sits in front of the back four then that may not be a problem.
KEEP THE FAITH
We've badly missed Ryan, when fit he's one of the best defenders in the prem, not far off John Terry class for me. It's no coincidence that Sambas form has dropped because he's missed Nelsen's guidance and organizational skills. He's only young, he needs someone to teach him so we shouldn't be too critical of Samba, he has the attributes to be a top defender. I think now Ryans back, we'll be a lot more solid defensively.
Wondering who Marks top targets are this summer? A few names are being banded about, Huddlestone, Cisse, Matter all sound good. I've been on the Everton page and they reckon Michael Bradley has agreed a pre-contract agreement with them, which would be a massive blow for us, i don't see Huddlestone and Vogel scoring many goals, so we need a goals scoring central midfielder and another 15 premier league goals striker to compliment Santa Cruz, needs to be someone with pace i think. That would rocket us up the league.
It looks like Mark is gonna have some cash to spend this summer and if need be he can always find another 7.5M from sales of Mokoena, Gallagher and probably Dunn.
The top 10 teams plus Newcastle = 11 all have open chequebooks and that is a major worry for our long term future, Mark can't keep finding cut price bargains. We badly need this takeover otherwise we're gonna be sitting around 11th for a long time to come.
Next season is a vital one for us, if we sign a few quality players this summer, we can push on and finish in the top 6 again, but if the takeover doesn't happen, i fear for our long term future.
We've badly missed Ryan, when fit he's one of the best defenders in the prem, not far off John Terry class for me. It's no coincidence that Sambas form has dropped because he's missed Nelsen's guidance and organizational skills. He's only young, he needs someone to teach him so we shouldn't be too critical of Samba, he has the attributes to be a top defender. I think now Ryans back, we'll be a lot more solid defensively.
Wondering who Marks top targets are this summer? A few names are being banded about, Huddlestone, Cisse, Matter all sound good. I've been on the Everton page and they reckon Michael Bradley has agreed a pre-contract agreement with them, which would be a massive blow for us, i don't see Huddlestone and Vogel scoring many goals, so we need a goals scoring central midfielder and another 15 premier league goals striker to compliment Santa Cruz, needs to be someone with pace i think. That would rocket us up the league.
It looks like Mark is gonna have some cash to spend this summer and if need be he can always find another 7.5M from sales of Mokoena, Gallagher and probably Dunn.
The top 10 teams plus Newcastle = 11 all have open chequebooks and that is a major worry for our long term future, Mark can't keep finding cut price bargains. We badly need this takeover otherwise we're gonna be sitting around 11th for a long time to come.
Next season is a vital one for us, if we sign a few quality players this summer, we can push on and finish in the top 6 again, but if the takeover doesn't happen, i fear for our long term future.
Posted by: Stephen, Mordon on 1:04pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Sell Dunn????
He's by far our best Centre mid in the team and even if we do buy CM in the summer he can play left midfield.
Also with a holding player Dunn and Reid will play with a lot more freedom we have a Lampard +Gerrard situation at the minute (albeit on a smaller scale)
A lone striker (Santa) is the way to go...
Sell Dunn????
He's by far our best Centre mid in the team and even if we do buy CM in the summer he can play left midfield.
Also with a holding player Dunn and Reid will play with a lot more freedom we have a Lampard +Gerrard situation at the minute (albeit on a smaller scale)
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 1:12pm Wed 26 Mar 08
oh no Daniel sounds like your on a downer, could it be weve missed out on michael bradley? i dont know were your getting the top ten open chequebook from, if you are to believe the reports in the rags here, west ham wont be signing anybody unless they are on a 'free', and the mags owner is looking to sell the club because he has no money for team rebuilding.
maybe they both are pulling the wool over our eyes so as not to be gazzumped in the summer transfer round.
as for us so long as hughsie is at the reigns then we will be ok. if and when he goes thats when we need to worry.
above all daniel
KEEP THE FAITH
oh no Daniel sounds like your on a downer, could it be weve missed out on michael bradley? i dont know were your getting the top ten open chequebook from, if you are to believe the reports in the rags here, west ham wont be signing anybody unless they are on a 'free', and the mags owner is looking to sell the club because he has no money for team rebuilding.
maybe they both are pulling the wool over our eyes so as not to be gazzumped in the summer transfer round.
as for us so long as hughsie is at the reigns then we will be ok. if and when he goes thats when we need to worry.
above all daniel
KEEP THE FAITH
Posted by: Ully, Blackburn on 1:12pm Wed 26 Mar 08
full of the joys of the world Daniel, no-body can predict the future, but if you think the so called top '10' teams plus Newcastle's open cheque book policy is a basis for the Rovers falling behind then sadly your wrong...Spurs, Newcastle and i'm strggling to find another one out of the top 4 have hardly set the world alight and if anything have been pap, the basis of a sucessful team comes from the management, the rest takes care of itself - as for getting 7.5 million for the players u suggested, i don't think somehow!
full of the joys of the world Daniel, no-body can predict the future, but if you think the so called top '10' teams plus Newcastle's open cheque book policy is a basis for the Rovers falling behind then sadly your wrong...Spurs, Newcastle and i'm strggling to find another one out of the top 4 have hardly set the world alight and if anything have been pap, the basis of a sucessful team comes from the management, the rest takes care of itself - as for getting 7.5 million for the players u suggested, i don't think somehow!
Posted by: daniel in spain is an idiot, not spain on 1:12pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why?
This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal).
Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.
Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why?
This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal).
Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.
[quote][bold]daniel in spain is an idiot[/bold] wrote:
Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.[/quote] Well if you're gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that's a big reason we're not in the top 4 now, cause we're missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you'll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn't go, so you'll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too.
David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
daniel in spain is an idiot wrote:
Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.
Well if you're gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that's a big reason we're not in the top 4 now, cause we're missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you'll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn't go, so you'll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too.
David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 1:45pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Daniel I think the sun is bakin your head!!
You need to come down onto the cold & hardy St's of East Lancs for a reality check.....Sell Dunn?
You must be a dingle in disguise.....
What is it that you thinks warrents Dunn's sale?
From my perch on the Riverside I have seen Dunn gradually improve game on game which bodes well for the future.
If Dunny left I would be gutted unless of course he was replaced by some-one better than himself & even then I would be gutted....
Dunn is a quality player & would be very difficult tp replace unless we've got 5-6 mil spare?(no I'm not saying Dunn is worth that but thats what it would cost in all likelihood)
Daniel, Dunny stays!!
Daniel I think the sun is bakin your head!!
You need to come down onto the cold & hardy St's of East Lancs for a reality check.....Sell Dunn?
You must be a dingle in disguise.....
What is it that you thinks warrents Dunn's sale?
From my perch on the Riverside I have seen Dunn gradually improve game on game which bodes well for the future.
If Dunny left I would be gutted unless of course he was replaced by some-one better than himself & even then I would be gutted....
Dunn is a quality player & would be very difficult tp replace unless we've got 5-6 mil spare?(no I'm not saying Dunn is worth that but thats what it would cost in all likelihood)
Posted by: Rovers girl, Blackburn on 1:47pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Ryan is a top class defender. He might not have done well this season and that was only because of his injury. He played for the reserves and did quite well and now that he's back for the first team he'll prove he has quality. Nelly can come back and start fresh. He can forget the past and concentrate on the future.
COME ON ROVERS!!
Ryan is a top class defender. He might not have done well this season and that was only because of his injury. He played for the reserves and did quite well and now that he's back for the first team he'll prove he has quality. Nelly can come back and start fresh. He can forget the past and concentrate on the future.
COME ON ROVERS!!
Posted by: Trev, manchester on 1:50pm Wed 26 Mar 08
If reid stays injury free til next season then i think he could be the player he was the last season we got 6th place, will set up more, score more and boss the midfield perfectly, good to see him come through this season after his injury hes certainly progressing well.
Dunn again has shown improvement, this is all good as with a couple of new signings, will have some competition which is needed seein as a certain few arent playing to their best abilitys this season.
If reid stays injury free til next season then i think he could be the player he was the last season we got 6th place, will set up more, score more and boss the midfield perfectly, good to see him come through this season after his injury hes certainly progressing well.
Dunn again has shown improvement, this is all good as with a couple of new signings, will have some competition which is needed seein as a certain few arent playing to their best abilitys this season.
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 1:56pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]daniel in spain is an idiot[/bold] wrote: Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.[/quote] Well if you're gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that's a big reason we're not in the top 4 now, cause we're missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you'll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn't go, so you'll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.[/quote] Daniel if they cant score 15 goals then how about they assist in 15 goals?
I think Tugay(legand & should be offered some role at BRFC) & Mokoena will will be sacrificed at the end of the season..
Looks to me that MH is setting up his stall for next season with the addition of the likes of Vogal.
Dunny can get himself into double figures next season if the team is set up that way?
I think you probarly didn't see Dunny 1st time around before his exit to Brum?
I would rather him be at BRFC than any other club because I think Dunny will explode these next couple of seasons?
Dunny has is detractors but lets see?
I'm here to be corrected!!
Daniel wrote:
daniel in spain is an idiot wrote: Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.
Well if you're gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that's a big reason we're not in the top 4 now, cause we're missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you'll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn't go, so you'll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
Daniel if they cant score 15 goals then how about they assist in 15 goals?
I think Tugay(legand & should be offered some role at BRFC) & Mokoena will will be sacrificed at the end of the season..
Looks to me that MH is setting up his stall for next season with the addition of the likes of Vogal.
Dunny can get himself into double figures next season if the team is set up that way?
I think you probarly didn't see Dunny 1st time around before his exit to Brum?
I would rather him be at BRFC than any other club because I think Dunny will explode these next couple of seasons?
Dunny has is detractors but lets see?
I'm here to be corrected!!
Posted by: Trev, manchester on 2:01pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Dunn will never score 10+ goals, he hasnt got the finishing when it comes to going for goal! i'd be far more happier if he plays as he is, passin and holdin the ball well, chasin after lost causes and gettin us some much needed free kicks and pens (cos he does tend to fall easily).
we got goal machines up front to put em away, who cares if we dont have scorin midfielders.
Dunn will never score 10+ goals, he hasnt got the finishing when it comes to going for goal! i'd be far more happier if he plays as he is, passin and holdin the ball well, chasin after lost causes and gettin us some much needed free kicks and pens (cos he does tend to fall easily).
we got goal machines up front to put em away, who cares if we dont have scorin midfielders.
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 2:02pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]daniel in spain is an idiot[/bold] wrote: Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.[/quote] Well if you're gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that's a big reason we're not in the top 4 now, cause we're missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you'll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn't go, so you'll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.[/quote] we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay.
outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder?
KEEP THE FAITH
Daniel wrote:
daniel in spain is an idiot wrote: Daniel, you're an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he's played...look at the cross for bentley's header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won't) it would be a huge mistake.
Well if you're gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that's a big reason we're not in the top 4 now, cause we're missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you'll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn't go, so you'll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay.
outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder?
KEEP THE FAITH
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 2:04pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Oh by the way really pleased to see the'ADMIRAL' back in contention for the run-in..We all know the qualitys he brings to the team & one little matter to remember-he is our captain!!
Nelson is a big influence on that team & of course he has in weaknesses but in the main he is our rock........
Nelson for the freedom of Blackburn!!!
Good to see him back..
Oh by the way really pleased to see the'ADMIRAL' back in contention for the run-in..We all know the qualitys he brings to the team & one little matter to remember-he is our captain!!
Nelson is a big influence on that team & of course he has in weaknesses but in the main he is our rock........
[quote][bold]ossy rover[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]daniel in spain is an idiot[/bold] wrote: Daniel, you\'re an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he\'s played...look at the cross for bentley\'s header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won\'t) it would be a huge mistake.[/quote] Well if you\'re gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that\'s a big reason we\'re not in the top 4 now, cause we\'re missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you\'ll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn\'t go, so you\'ll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.[/quote] we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay. outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder? KEEP THE FAITH[/quote] Michael Bradley!! LOL :P
That's my point, that's a vital reason the other clubs aren't in the top 4, cause they don't have that player.
Is it poss Everton have a pre-contract agreement with him?
Woody, i do remember Dunny from 2000, he was a great young exciting talent then, he looked like the complete player. Always remember when we played at Highbury and he recieved the ball tight on the left touchline and outskilled and beat 2 Arsenal players. He doesn't seem the same player to me now, but then i'm not at Ewood every week so i can't say for sure.
Remember in 95' there was talk of Roversvision the tv channel? i'd love to see that.
I hope you're right and Dunn does explode in these next couple of seasons.
You got an opinion on this Gemma?? xx
ossy rover wrote:
Daniel wrote:
daniel in spain is an idiot wrote: Daniel, you\'re an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he\'s played...look at the cross for bentley\'s header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won\'t) it would be a huge mistake.
Well if you\'re gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that\'s a big reason we\'re not in the top 4 now, cause we\'re missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you\'ll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn\'t go, so you\'ll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay. outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder? KEEP THE FAITH
Michael Bradley!! LOL :P
That's my point, that's a vital reason the other clubs aren't in the top 4, cause they don't have that player.
Is it poss Everton have a pre-contract agreement with him?
Woody, i do remember Dunny from 2000, he was a great young exciting talent then, he looked like the complete player. Always remember when we played at Highbury and he recieved the ball tight on the left touchline and outskilled and beat 2 Arsenal players. He doesn't seem the same player to me now, but then i'm not at Ewood every week so i can't say for sure.
Remember in 95' there was talk of Roversvision the tv channel? i'd love to see that.
I hope you're right and Dunn does explode in these next couple of seasons.
Posted by: Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker, Accrington on 2:27pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote:
Oh by the way really pleased to see the'ADMIRAL' back in contention for
the run-in..We all know the qualitys he brings to the team & one
little matter to remember-he is our captain!!
Nelson is a big influence on that team & of course he has in
weaknesses but in the main he is our rock........
Nelson for the freedom of Blackburn!!!
Good to see him back..[/quote] Think you and Ossy are taking over today! Spot on though - a fit Nelson is a class above and as Center Halves tend to go on until mid 30's if we can get him fit we should be sound at back. Anyway -
[bold]Ossy, Woody,[/bold]
Back to music – what do you think would be a great tune for Rovers to come out to?
We’ve had Simply the Best (when we were) and Wild Rover for a bit now.
Although it’s not a tub-thumper I like the sentiment of Ryan Adams “When the Stars Go Blue” which is a classy Neil Young / Dylan style number. The chorus goes –
Where do you go when your lonely
Where do you go when your Blue
Where do you go when your lonely
I’ll follow you
Where the Stars Go Blue
Where the Stars Go Blue
What do you think and what would you like?
Woody Riversider wrote:
Oh by the way really pleased to see the'ADMIRAL' back in contention for
the run-in..We all know the qualitys he brings to the team & one
little matter to remember-he is our captain!!
Nelson is a big influence on that team & of course he has in
weaknesses but in the main he is our rock........
Nelson for the freedom of Blackburn!!!
Good to see him back..
Think you and Ossy are taking over today! Spot on though - a fit Nelson is a class above and as Center Halves tend to go on until mid 30's if we can get him fit we should be sound at back. Anyway - Ossy, Woody,
Back to music – what do you think would be a great tune for Rovers to come out to?
We’ve had Simply the Best (when we were) and Wild Rover for a bit now.
Although it’s not a tub-thumper I like the sentiment of Ryan Adams “When the Stars Go Blue” which is a classy Neil Young / Dylan style number. The chorus goes –
Where do you go when your lonely
Where do you go when your Blue
Where do you go when your lonely
I’ll follow you
Where the Stars Go Blue
Where the Stars Go Blue
Let's hope that the Nelsen that returns is the one of a couple of years ago, who was a revelation in defence, and not the pale shadow who was made to look incredibly average earlier this season. Hopefully it was just the injury affecting him.
As for the midfield discussion - Dunn has performed better than I expected this season, particularly in the fact that he hasn't missed many games through injury. I think Hughes' policy is to perhaps have one-or-two of the current 1st team become squad players next year, and I think Dunn might fall into that category more than Reid. I agree that Tugay and probably Mokoena will be moved on at the end of the year. I agree that it would be great if Tugay could be given some kind of role within the club, if he decides to hang up his boots, that is. I'm interested to see how Vogel plays - could be another masterstroke by Sparky!
Let's hope that the Nelsen that returns is the one of a couple of years ago, who was a revelation in defence, and not the pale shadow who was made to look incredibly average earlier this season. Hopefully it was just the injury affecting him.
As for the midfield discussion - Dunn has performed better than I expected this season, particularly in the fact that he hasn't missed many games through injury. I think Hughes' policy is to perhaps have one-or-two of the current 1st team become squad players next year, and I think Dunn might fall into that category more than Reid. I agree that Tugay and probably Mokoena will be moved on at the end of the year. I agree that it would be great if Tugay could be given some kind of role within the club, if he decides to hang up his boots, that is. I'm interested to see how Vogel plays - could be another masterstroke by Sparky!
Apart from the top 4 and tottenham i dont think the prem will be spending ludicrous amounts of money in the summer.
portsmouth could only buy defoe due to the benjani deal,
everton are investing in their new ground
West Ham- The bubbles burst after spending way too much on the crocks of the prem
Villa- maybe one or two new faces
Newcastle- They could spend 500 million and get nowhere!
Hughes will not make wholesale changes in the summer. We have Vogel and i think he will only sign another 2 (unless bentley goes)at a push three to bolster another assault for a top six place. Quality not quanity has been his ethos since day one.
We wont have five players leaving and five players in...he doesnt work that way.
Although i fear the first casualty will be the legend that is Tugay, its a shame but all good things come to an end. I wounder if the club would give him a coaching role?
Apart from the top 4 and tottenham i dont think the prem will be spending ludicrous amounts of money in the summer.
portsmouth could only buy defoe due to the benjani deal,
everton are investing in their new ground
West Ham- The bubbles burst after spending way too much on the crocks of the prem
Villa- maybe one or two new faces
Newcastle- They could spend 500 million and get nowhere!
Hughes will not make wholesale changes in the summer. We have Vogel and i think he will only sign another 2 (unless bentley goes)at a push three to bolster another assault for a top six place. Quality not quanity has been his ethos since day one.
We wont have five players leaving and five players in...he doesnt work that way.
Although i fear the first casualty will be the legend that is Tugay, its a shame but all good things come to an end. I wounder if the club would give him a coaching role?
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 2:33pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Daniel the thing is if that type of player was out there even if he was a young raw talent the big clubs would be chasing him.
Lampard wasnt breaking records at west ham as a free scoring midfielder its only since he's got to chelsea (who have the holding player) that he's kicked on.
but dont forget we are one of the few teams that play with two out and out wide men to start allowing ourselves the free scoring midfielder would mean a change in style, which could reduce our other attacking options.
no doubt hughsie has players in mind but again we have talent in the squad already, but getting them all to perform at thier best week in week out is the problem.
also dont forget we do have a relatively small squad.
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Daniel the thing is if that type of player was out there even if he was a young raw talent the big clubs would be chasing him.
Lampard wasnt breaking records at west ham as a free scoring midfielder its only since he's got to chelsea (who have the holding player) that he's kicked on.
but dont forget we are one of the few teams that play with two out and out wide men to start allowing ourselves the free scoring midfielder would mean a change in style, which could reduce our other attacking options.
no doubt hughsie has players in mind but again we have talent in the squad already, but getting them all to perform at thier best week in week out is the problem.
also dont forget we do have a relatively small squad.
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Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 2:49pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[bold]trev[/bold] good shout on tugay. could he be a rovers manager ond day?
[bold]woody[/bold]/[bold]morst[/bold] without doubt the admiral our best the defender when fit and and in form.
[bold]Daniel[/bold] dunny and reidy are beginning to show signs of getting back to being good prem players after long term fitness problems.
as for songs or music the
words seem apt but what tune is it? we need a good old tub thumper
queens 'we will rock you' was good for that or thin lizzies 'the boys are back in town'.
probably for the modern footballer pink floyds 'money' is more suitable.
im going to have to think about it for a while.
anyway guys
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trev good shout on tugay. could he be a rovers manager ond day? woody/morst without doubt the admiral our best the defender when fit and and in form. Daniel dunny and reidy are beginning to show signs of getting back to being good prem players after long term fitness problems.
as for songs or music the
words seem apt but what tune is it? we need a good old tub thumper
queens 'we will rock you' was good for that or thin lizzies 'the boys are back in town'.
probably for the modern footballer pink floyds 'money' is more suitable.
im going to have to think about it for a while.
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 3:08pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote: Oh by the way really pleased to see the'ADMIRAL' back in contention for the run-in..We all know the qualitys he brings to the team & one little matter to remember-he is our captain!! Nelson is a big influence on that team & of course he has in weaknesses but in the main he is our rock........ Nelson for the freedom of Blackburn!!! Good to see him back..[/quote] Think you and Ossy are taking over today! Spot on though - a fit Nelson is a class above and as Center Halves tend to go on until mid 30's if we can get him fit we should be sound at back. Anyway - [bold]Ossy, Woody,[/bold] Back to music – what do you think would be a great tune for Rovers to come out to? We’ve had Simply the Best (when we were) and Wild Rover for a bit now. Although it’s not a tub-thumper I like the sentiment of Ryan Adams “When the Stars Go Blue” which is a classy Neil Young / Dylan style number. The chorus goes – Where do you go when your lonely Where do you go when your Blue Where do you go when your lonely I’ll follow you Where the Stars Go Blue Where the Stars Go Blue What do you think and what would you like? [/quote] Aye aye Morst you little 'heartbreaker' you...
Y'know strange you should bring that up(musical intro) me & my pal were talking of that on Saturday !!
Albeit after Cruz scored & what would be fitting for that but then realised that it aint allowed during the match?
Two songs spring to mind for the entrance:
1. I AM THE RESSURECTED(STONE ROSES)
2. BLUE MONDAY(NEW ORDER)
I'm a firm believer that a good song would get the crowd 'juiced-up' kinda speak!!
Another song to mull over would non other than 'Neil Young' & 'ROCKING IN THE FREE WORLD'?
It his time for a new theme..
Failing all that then c'mon Morst,Ossy......
'E BY GUM'................
...........Have to burn it to cd though!!
Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker wrote:
Woody Riversider wrote: Oh by the way really pleased to see the'ADMIRAL' back in contention for the run-in..We all know the qualitys he brings to the team & one little matter to remember-he is our captain!! Nelson is a big influence on that team & of course he has in weaknesses but in the main he is our rock........ Nelson for the freedom of Blackburn!!! Good to see him back..
Think you and Ossy are taking over today! Spot on though - a fit Nelson is a class above and as Center Halves tend to go on until mid 30's if we can get him fit we should be sound at back. Anyway - Ossy, Woody, Back to music – what do you think would be a great tune for Rovers to come out to? We’ve had Simply the Best (when we were) and Wild Rover for a bit now. Although it’s not a tub-thumper I like the sentiment of Ryan Adams “When the Stars Go Blue” which is a classy Neil Young / Dylan style number. The chorus goes – Where do you go when your lonely Where do you go when your Blue Where do you go when your lonely I’ll follow you Where the Stars Go Blue Where the Stars Go Blue What do you think and what would you like?
Aye aye Morst you little 'heartbreaker' you...
Y'know strange you should bring that up(musical intro) me & my pal were talking of that on Saturday !!
Albeit after Cruz scored & what would be fitting for that but then realised that it aint allowed during the match?
Two songs spring to mind for the entrance:
1. I AM THE RESSURECTED(STONE ROSES)
2. BLUE MONDAY(NEW ORDER)
I'm a firm believer that a good song would get the crowd 'juiced-up' kinda speak!!
Another song to mull over would non other than 'Neil Young' & 'ROCKING IN THE FREE WORLD'?
It his time for a new theme..
Failing all that then c'mon Morst,Ossy......
'E BY GUM'................
...........Have to burn it to cd though!!
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 3:20pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ossy rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]daniel in spain is an idiot[/bold] wrote: Daniel, you\'re an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he\'s played...look at the cross for bentley\'s header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won\'t) it would be a huge mistake.[/quote] Well if you\'re gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that\'s a big reason we\'re not in the top 4 now, cause we\'re missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you\'ll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn\'t go, so you\'ll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.[/quote] we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay. outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder? KEEP THE FAITH[/quote] Michael Bradley!! LOL :P That's my point, that's a vital reason the other clubs aren't in the top 4, cause they don't have that player. Is it poss Everton have a pre-contract agreement with him? Woody, i do remember Dunny from 2000, he was a great young exciting talent then, he looked like the complete player. Always remember when we played at Highbury and he recieved the ball tight on the left touchline and outskilled and beat 2 Arsenal players. He doesn't seem the same player to me now, but then i'm not at Ewood every week so i can't say for sure. Remember in 95' there was talk of Roversvision the tv channel? i'd love to see that. I hope you're right and Dunn does explode in these next couple of seasons. You got an opinion on this Gemma?? xx[/quote] Daniel your right in that Dunny isn't the same player but that doesn't make him a lesser player than he was....
He's a cute player who as two twinkling feet & I'm quite positive what Dunny's contribution can be over these next coming seasons.
Hope I didn't sound disrespectful on asking if you had seen Dunny 1st time around?
Wasn't like that pal.
I'm pretty much excited at what next season will bring simply because I think MH is gonna make changes to the team & if we keep all our best players(DUNNY) etc & new additions then I think we can look forward to a productive season & remember Hughes will not be happy at all our early exits from various comps & MH will want to rectify that....
[bold]Arte et labore[/bold]
PS send us sun please!!
Daniel wrote:
ossy rover wrote:
Daniel wrote:
daniel in spain is an idiot wrote: Daniel, you\'re an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he\'s played...look at the cross for bentley\'s header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won\'t) it would be a huge mistake.
Well if you\'re gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that\'s a big reason we\'re not in the top 4 now, cause we\'re missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you\'ll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn\'t go, so you\'ll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay. outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder? KEEP THE FAITH
Michael Bradley!! LOL :P That's my point, that's a vital reason the other clubs aren't in the top 4, cause they don't have that player. Is it poss Everton have a pre-contract agreement with him? Woody, i do remember Dunny from 2000, he was a great young exciting talent then, he looked like the complete player. Always remember when we played at Highbury and he recieved the ball tight on the left touchline and outskilled and beat 2 Arsenal players. He doesn't seem the same player to me now, but then i'm not at Ewood every week so i can't say for sure. Remember in 95' there was talk of Roversvision the tv channel? i'd love to see that. I hope you're right and Dunn does explode in these next couple of seasons. You got an opinion on this Gemma?? xx
Daniel your right in that Dunny isn't the same player but that doesn't make him a lesser player than he was....
He's a cute player who as two twinkling feet & I'm quite positive what Dunny's contribution can be over these next coming seasons.
Hope I didn't sound disrespectful on asking if you had seen Dunny 1st time around?
Wasn't like that pal.
I'm pretty much excited at what next season will bring simply because I think MH is gonna make changes to the team & if we keep all our best players(DUNNY) etc & new additions then I think we can look forward to a productive season & remember Hughes will not be happy at all our early exits from various comps & MH will want to rectify that.... Arte et labore
PS send us sun please!!
Posted by: trev, manchester on 3:32pm Wed 26 Mar 08
dont remeber sayin anythin bout tuggers but deffo he should be looked over for a coaching job, imagine him at one of those academys for a few years, we'll have loads of little tugays on our books before you know it!!
dont remeber sayin anythin bout tuggers but deffo he should be looked over for a coaching job, imagine him at one of those academys for a few years, we'll have loads of little tugays on our books before you know it!!
[quote][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]ossy rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]daniel in spain is an idiot[/bold] wrote: Daniel, you\'re an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he\'s played...look at the cross for bentley\'s header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won\'t) it would be a huge mistake.[/quote] Well if you\'re gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that\'s a big reason we\'re not in the top 4 now, cause we\'re missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you\'ll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn\'t go, so you\'ll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.[/quote] we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay. outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder? KEEP THE FAITH[/quote] Michael Bradley!! LOL :P That's my point, that's a vital reason the other clubs aren't in the top 4, cause they don't have that player. Is it poss Everton have a pre-contract agreement with him? Woody, i do remember Dunny from 2000, he was a great young exciting talent then, he looked like the complete player. Always remember when we played at Highbury and he recieved the ball tight on the left touchline and outskilled and beat 2 Arsenal players. He doesn't seem the same player to me now, but then i'm not at Ewood every week so i can't say for sure. Remember in 95' there was talk of Roversvision the tv channel? i'd love to see that. I hope you're right and Dunn does explode in these next couple of seasons. You got an opinion on this Gemma?? xx[/quote] Daniel your right in that Dunny isn't the same player but that doesn't make him a lesser player than he was.... He's a cute player who as two twinkling feet & I'm quite positive what Dunny's contribution can be over these next coming seasons. Hope I didn't sound disrespectful on asking if you had seen Dunny 1st time around? Wasn't like that pal. I'm pretty much excited at what next season will bring simply because I think MH is gonna make changes to the team & if we keep all our best players(DUNNY) etc & new additions then I think we can look forward to a productive season & remember Hughes will not be happy at all our early exits from various comps & MH will want to rectify that.... [bold]Arte et labore[/bold] PS send us sun please!![/quote] Well it's only 25c (70f) here today, i'm sure it's much warmer in Roversland LOL i saw the match report from the Wigan game; snow, wind and rain, proper weather! I've gone soft what with all the sun and going to the beach here.
Ok, i presume we're all pretty much agreed we need another first choice striker, McCarthy has been soooo disapointing this season, Santa Cruz gives his all and scores plenty of goals, he doesn't look like he'll go the way of McCarthy and get lazy next season. Roberts does work his socks off, but i'm just not convinced he's a 15-20 goal a season man.
Who would you guys like to see come in up front? What do you think of Cisse maybe??
[bold]Ps: i thought i saw the blimp at the beach the other day!![/bold]
Woody Riversider wrote:
Daniel wrote:
ossy rover wrote:
Daniel wrote:
daniel in spain is an idiot wrote: Daniel, you\'re an idiot. Sell Dunn? Are you mad? Why? This season, on the recovery from injury he has improved nearly every game he\'s played...look at the cross for bentley\'s header against and the penalties he won at Bolton, the free kick he won against Wigan that Bentley nearly banged in, the shot that smashed the bar against liverpool, his goal against arsenal (and before anyone jumps in going on about how it was a keeper error, so was their goal). Dunn is class, if Hughes sells him (and Hughes is not a total moron so he won\'t) it would be a huge mistake.
Well if you\'re gonna tell me David Dunn or Reid are gonna whack in 15+ goals a season, you must be nuts! The top 4 all have one of those, Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard etc, that\'s a big reason we\'re not in the top 4 now, cause we\'re missing that element. Fact is, Mark IS after at least one more central midfielder, so you\'ll then have him, Vogel, Dunn, Reid, Mokoena and Tugay all going for 2 places. 6 into 2 doesn\'t go, so you\'ll need to offload at least 1 probably 2 of those. Mokoena yeah, but probably one of the others will leave too. David Dunn or Reid will NOT score the goals to fire us into the top 6 and beyond next season, we need to find someone who will.
we arnt going to find a gerrard lampard ronaldo or fabregas for the money that we pay. outside the top 4 who else has got this free scoring midfielder? KEEP THE FAITH
Michael Bradley!! LOL :P That's my point, that's a vital reason the other clubs aren't in the top 4, cause they don't have that player. Is it poss Everton have a pre-contract agreement with him? Woody, i do remember Dunny from 2000, he was a great young exciting talent then, he looked like the complete player. Always remember when we played at Highbury and he recieved the ball tight on the left touchline and outskilled and beat 2 Arsenal players. He doesn't seem the same player to me now, but then i'm not at Ewood every week so i can't say for sure. Remember in 95' there was talk of Roversvision the tv channel? i'd love to see that. I hope you're right and Dunn does explode in these next couple of seasons. You got an opinion on this Gemma?? xx
Daniel your right in that Dunny isn't the same player but that doesn't make him a lesser player than he was.... He's a cute player who as two twinkling feet & I'm quite positive what Dunny's contribution can be over these next coming seasons. Hope I didn't sound disrespectful on asking if you had seen Dunny 1st time around? Wasn't like that pal. I'm pretty much excited at what next season will bring simply because I think MH is gonna make changes to the team & if we keep all our best players(DUNNY) etc & new additions then I think we can look forward to a productive season & remember Hughes will not be happy at all our early exits from various comps & MH will want to rectify that.... Arte et labore PS send us sun please!!
Well it's only 25c (70f) here today, i'm sure it's much warmer in Roversland LOL i saw the match report from the Wigan game; snow, wind and rain, proper weather! I've gone soft what with all the sun and going to the beach here.
Ok, i presume we're all pretty much agreed we need another first choice striker, McCarthy has been soooo disapointing this season, Santa Cruz gives his all and scores plenty of goals, he doesn't look like he'll go the way of McCarthy and get lazy next season. Roberts does work his socks off, but i'm just not convinced he's a 15-20 goal a season man.
Who would you guys like to see come in up front? What do you think of Cisse maybe??
Ps: i thought i saw the blimp at the beach the other day!!
Daniel - i'd love to see us go after Kevin Doyle from reading. I think he is a realistic target and someone who has bags of potential. Could perhaps be a good partner for Rocky as well. How much do you think his market value would be? I was thinking around the £4-5m mark which may prove a problem unless we can raise some extra finance from selling the likes of McCarthy and Gallagher.
Daniel - i'd love to see us go after Kevin Doyle from reading. I think he is a realistic target and someone who has bags of potential. Could perhaps be a good partner for Rocky as well. How much do you think his market value would be? I was thinking around the £4-5m mark which may prove a problem unless we can raise some extra finance from selling the likes of McCarthy and Gallagher.
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 3:49pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]trev[/bold] wrote:
dont remeber sayin anythin bout tuggers but deffo he should be looked over for a coaching job, imagine him at one of those academys for a few years, we\'ll have loads of little tugays on our books before you know it!![/quote] sorry [bold]trev[/bold] should av been [bold]TC[/bold] , but its still a good call dont you think.
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trev wrote:
dont remeber sayin anythin bout tuggers but deffo he should be looked over for a coaching job, imagine him at one of those academys for a few years, we\'ll have loads of little tugays on our books before you know it!!
sorry trev should av been TC , but its still a good call dont you think.
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[quote][bold]Jay[/bold] wrote:
Daniel - i'd love to see us go after Kevin Doyle from reading. I think he is a realistic target and someone who has bags of potential. Could perhaps be a good partner for Rocky as well. How much do you think his market value would be? I was thinking around the £4-5m mark which may prove a problem unless we can raise some extra finance from selling the likes of McCarthy and Gallagher.[/quote] I don't personally think Kevin Doyle would be much better than Roberts. Can't see him scoring a significant amount of more goals, but yeah he has potential and we could get him, probably looking around the 3.5/4M mark.
What do you think about Doyle Woody? Ossy?
I think we gotta sign players that will improve our first team a fair amount, but Mark Hughes is right, they're not cheap. I mean we were linked to Santa Cruz's Paraguay strike partner, anyone know more about him?
I would pounce at the chance to resign Bellers, but i don't think it's too likely. But no doubt Mark will have a few guys in mind that we're not aware of, and i think we all trust his judgement, so i'm sure whoever he brings in up front, he will be a good addition and improve the team.
We'll most likely have to look abroad for signings cause the prices in the premiership are insane
Jay wrote:
Daniel - i'd love to see us go after Kevin Doyle from reading. I think he is a realistic target and someone who has bags of potential. Could perhaps be a good partner for Rocky as well. How much do you think his market value would be? I was thinking around the £4-5m mark which may prove a problem unless we can raise some extra finance from selling the likes of McCarthy and Gallagher.
I don't personally think Kevin Doyle would be much better than Roberts. Can't see him scoring a significant amount of more goals, but yeah he has potential and we could get him, probably looking around the 3.5/4M mark.
What do you think about Doyle Woody? Ossy?
I think we gotta sign players that will improve our first team a fair amount, but Mark Hughes is right, they're not cheap. I mean we were linked to Santa Cruz's Paraguay strike partner, anyone know more about him?
I would pounce at the chance to resign Bellers, but i don't think it's too likely. But no doubt Mark will have a few guys in mind that we're not aware of, and i think we all trust his judgement, so i'm sure whoever he brings in up front, he will be a good addition and improve the team.
We'll most likely have to look abroad for signings cause the prices in the premiership are insane
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 4:16pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Daniel theres loads of players out there who could do a job for us, i still think that we already have a couple of class acts up front in Santa and benni, an alternative with JR and potential in derbs.
its been well documented by all of us about benni's lack of form (some say committment or attitude) but i keep saying it the guy is class, and what we dont want is for him to go to another PL club and start banging in goals for them. im convinced benni will eventually come good it may be next season but he will get there.
JR is doing a job for us now but transfer rumours and him supposedly not being happy have been rumbling on since last summer so if anybody were to go i think it would be him.
Doyle would be an adequate replacement for him but not benni.
put it this way when hughsie brought in santa we all went 'who', it was only the fact he came from munich which made it more appealing, and ive no doubt hughsie has others on his list, they may be higher profile who knows but ide rather he be in charge than some of the money wasters seen at other clubs.
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Daniel theres loads of players out there who could do a job for us, i still think that we already have a couple of class acts up front in Santa and benni, an alternative with JR and potential in derbs.
its been well documented by all of us about benni's lack of form (some say committment or attitude) but i keep saying it the guy is class, and what we dont want is for him to go to another PL club and start banging in goals for them. im convinced benni will eventually come good it may be next season but he will get there.
JR is doing a job for us now but transfer rumours and him supposedly not being happy have been rumbling on since last summer so if anybody were to go i think it would be him.
Doyle would be an adequate replacement for him but not benni.
put it this way when hughsie brought in santa we all went 'who', it was only the fact he came from munich which made it more appealing, and ive no doubt hughsie has others on his list, they may be higher profile who knows but ide rather he be in charge than some of the money wasters seen at other clubs.
KEEP THE FAITH
Really? I can't see how you can compare the two Daniel. Doyle is a natural goalscorer and given the right service will score plenty for a good Premiership side. Roberts will never be in that class in my opinion although his style means he is a superb alternative for any manager to have. The human battering ram if you will...
Really? I can't see how you can compare the two Daniel. Doyle is a natural goalscorer and given the right service will score plenty for a good Premiership side. Roberts will never be in that class in my opinion although his style means he is a superb alternative for any manager to have. The human battering ram if you will...
I wouldnt touch bellamy again. We have been there done that. He was good for rovers and,when fit, gave us pace and stretched teams but the guy has always been injury prone.
The season rovers had him he had injury problems, this continued at both Liverpool and West Ham. A fit Bellamy would be a great signing for many a prem team but he seldom is.
One guy i was impressed with was the guy on the left wing for the under 21's last night! Did anybody see him? He would give Gamst a kick up the arse.
I wouldnt touch bellamy again. We have been there done that. He was good for rovers and,when fit, gave us pace and stretched teams but the guy has always been injury prone.
The season rovers had him he had injury problems, this continued at both Liverpool and West Ham. A fit Bellamy would be a great signing for many a prem team but he seldom is.
One guy i was impressed with was the guy on the left wing for the under 21's last night! Did anybody see him? He would give Gamst a kick up the arse.
Posted by: Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker, Accrington on 4:51pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[bold][bold]Woody[[/bold] /bold] - Stone Roses Album - now your talking. Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World - superb and on my best of mix which is in car at present. What about Hey Hey My My Into the BLUE - it's better to burn out than to fade away! [bold]Ossy[/bold] If we are Dark side of the Mooning then how about "The Great Gig in the Sky" - it's one of my Bad Day songs to chill out to. As for Claruts it would have to be Brain Damage - Got to keep the Looneys on the path!!
[bold]Meanwhile the Blimp has reached Spain[/bold] - should we alert the Barca and Maaidrid fans?
Woody /bold] - Stone Roses Album - now your talking. Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World - superb and on my best of mix which is in car at present. What about Hey Hey My My Into the BLUE - it's better to burn out than to fade away! Ossy If we are Dark side of the Mooning then how about "The Great Gig in the Sky" - it's one of my Bad Day songs to chill out to. As for Claruts it would have to be Brain Damage - Got to keep the Looneys on the path!!
Meanwhile the Blimp has reached Spain - should we alert the Barca and Maaidrid fans?
Posted by: Jamie Wrexham, Wrexham on 5:41pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TC[/bold] wrote:
I wouldnt touch bellamy again. We have been there done that. He was good for rovers and,when fit, gave us pace and stretched teams but the guy has always been injury prone. The season rovers had him he had injury problems, this continued at both Liverpool and West Ham. A fit Bellamy would be a great signing for many a prem team but he seldom is. One guy i was impressed with was the guy on the left wing for the under 21's last night! Did anybody see him? He would give Gamst a kick up the arse. [/quote] Ye mate your spot on, I was against getting Santa Cruz in also for the same reason tho.
Maybe thats why we're fans and not managers.
For the right price Bellamy would be a great aquasition. He's got the lot!!!
TC wrote:
I wouldnt touch bellamy again. We have been there done that. He was good for rovers and,when fit, gave us pace and stretched teams but the guy has always been injury prone. The season rovers had him he had injury problems, this continued at both Liverpool and West Ham. A fit Bellamy would be a great signing for many a prem team but he seldom is. One guy i was impressed with was the guy on the left wing for the under 21's last night! Did anybody see him? He would give Gamst a kick up the arse.
Ye mate your spot on, I was against getting Santa Cruz in also for the same reason tho.
Maybe thats why we're fans and not managers.
For the right price Bellamy would be a great aquasition. He's got the lot!!!
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 5:47pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Daniel[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jay[/bold] wrote: Daniel - i'd love to see us go after Kevin Doyle from reading. I think he is a realistic target and someone who has bags of potential. Could perhaps be a good partner for Rocky as well. How much do you think his market value would be? I was thinking around the £4-5m mark which may prove a problem unless we can raise some extra finance from selling the likes of McCarthy and Gallagher.[/quote] I don't personally think Kevin Doyle would be much better than Roberts. Can't see him scoring a significant amount of more goals, but yeah he has potential and we could get him, probably looking around the 3.5/4M mark. What do you think about Doyle Woody? Ossy? I think we gotta sign players that will improve our first team a fair amount, but Mark Hughes is right, they're not cheap. I mean we were linked to Santa Cruz's Paraguay strike partner, anyone know more about him? I would pounce at the chance to resign Bellers, but i don't think it's too likely. But no doubt Mark will have a few guys in mind that we're not aware of, and i think we all trust his judgement, so i'm sure whoever he brings in up front, he will be a good addition and improve the team. We'll most likely have to look abroad for signings cause the prices in the premiership are insane[/quote] Yeh I can see your eye for Doyle here Jay,Daniel.
He kinda slips under the radar a little possibly cause he's at a low profile club(not my words) but I rate him.
I doubt MH would splash that much though if thats what he was to cost?
I yearn for another Mike Newell.......
One thing for me is to definately keep hold of Bennie.
I'm sure he will come out of his slump & I have a little niggly feeling that being included in the SA squad could just give him a boost?
For me I'm happy with our strike force(even though it could argued we could do better?).
In fact you all must remember the Reading game of this season?
Man I was creaming myself over that display & I hoped that the standard had been set. The point being that we know the capabilities of our strikers.
[bold]Arte et labore[/bold]
Daniel wrote:
Jay wrote: Daniel - i'd love to see us go after Kevin Doyle from reading. I think he is a realistic target and someone who has bags of potential. Could perhaps be a good partner for Rocky as well. How much do you think his market value would be? I was thinking around the £4-5m mark which may prove a problem unless we can raise some extra finance from selling the likes of McCarthy and Gallagher.
I don't personally think Kevin Doyle would be much better than Roberts. Can't see him scoring a significant amount of more goals, but yeah he has potential and we could get him, probably looking around the 3.5/4M mark. What do you think about Doyle Woody? Ossy? I think we gotta sign players that will improve our first team a fair amount, but Mark Hughes is right, they're not cheap. I mean we were linked to Santa Cruz's Paraguay strike partner, anyone know more about him? I would pounce at the chance to resign Bellers, but i don't think it's too likely. But no doubt Mark will have a few guys in mind that we're not aware of, and i think we all trust his judgement, so i'm sure whoever he brings in up front, he will be a good addition and improve the team. We'll most likely have to look abroad for signings cause the prices in the premiership are insane
Yeh I can see your eye for Doyle here Jay,Daniel.
He kinda slips under the radar a little possibly cause he's at a low profile club(not my words) but I rate him.
I doubt MH would splash that much though if thats what he was to cost?
I yearn for another Mike Newell.......
One thing for me is to definately keep hold of Bennie.
I'm sure he will come out of his slump & I have a little niggly feeling that being included in the SA squad could just give him a boost?
For me I'm happy with our strike force(even though it could argued we could do better?).
In fact you all must remember the Reading game of this season?
Man I was creaming myself over that display & I hoped that the standard had been set. The point being that we know the capabilities of our strikers.
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 6:03pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker[/bold] wrote:
[bold][bold]Woody[[/bold] /bold] - Stone Roses Album - now your talking. Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World - superb and on my best of mix which is in car at present. What about Hey Hey My My Into the BLUE - it\'s better to burn out than to fade away! [bold]Ossy[/bold] If we are Dark side of the Mooning then how about \"The Great Gig in the Sky\" - it\'s one of my Bad Day songs to chill out to. As for Claruts it would have to be Brain Damage - Got to keep the Looneys on the path!! [bold]Meanwhile the Blimp has reached Spain[/bold] - should we alert the Barca and Maaidrid fans? [/quote] Morst one more for an entrance:
[italic]'IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME'....DODGY.[/italic]
A great band(who have relaunched recently seen em at BBC Liverpool) with great sentiment.....
The 'Blimp' as been sighted over Holland eye witnessed by a friend of mine!!
Hail the 'Blimps' freedom fighters!!
Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker wrote:
Woody /bold] - Stone Roses Album - now your talking. Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World - superb and on my best of mix which is in car at present. What about Hey Hey My My Into the BLUE - it\'s better to burn out than to fade away! Ossy If we are Dark side of the Mooning then how about \"The Great Gig in the Sky\" - it\'s one of my Bad Day songs to chill out to. As for Claruts it would have to be Brain Damage - Got to keep the Looneys on the path!! Meanwhile the Blimp has reached Spain - should we alert the Barca and Maaidrid fans?
Morst one more for an entrance:
'IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME'....DODGY.
A great band(who have relaunched recently seen em at BBC Liverpool) with great sentiment.....
The 'Blimp' as been sighted over Holland eye witnessed by a friend of mine!!
Please God noooooo!!!!!!!
This is from the Paraguay vs. SA game:
[italic]Paraguay suffered a cruel blow midway through the first half when leading striker Roque Santa Cruz had to retire with an ankle injury after being tackled by Blackburn team-mate and South Africa captain Aaron Mokoena[/italic]
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Please God noooooo!!!!!!!
This is from the Paraguay vs. SA game:
Paraguay suffered a cruel blow midway through the first half when leading striker Roque Santa Cruz had to retire with an ankle injury after being tackled by Blackburn team-mate and South Africa captain Aaron Mokoena
Posted by: Woody Riversider, Blackburn on 11:13pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Lars[/bold] wrote:
Please God noooooo!!!!!!! This is from the Paraguay vs. SA game: [italic]Paraguay suffered a cruel blow midway through the first half when leading striker Roque Santa Cruz had to retire with an ankle injury after being tackled by Blackburn team-mate and South Africa captain Aaron Mokoena[/italic] NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!![/quote] This is grim news indeed......
What the f**k is 'The Axe' playing at?
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
!
Lars wrote:
Please God noooooo!!!!!!! This is from the Paraguay vs. SA game: Paraguay suffered a cruel blow midway through the first half when leading striker Roque Santa Cruz had to retire with an ankle injury after being tackled by Blackburn team-mate and South Africa captain Aaron Mokoena NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Ryan hasn't been 100%fit this season,and he admitted that he didn't play up to his best while he was injured, but he's THE ADMIRAL! let us not forget that...
Ryan hasn't been 100%fit this season,and he admitted that he didn't play up to his best while he was injured, but he's THE ADMIRAL! let us not forget that...
[quote][bold]Darren[/bold] wrote:
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don\'t come close.[/quote] I wholeheartedly agree. They are both stone cold steady, both can control the ball and pass and move.
Both Nelsen and Samba have become liabilities in defence. However all four central defenders have posses, so let's hope for the latter two that it's only there form that's gone missing temporarily.
Darren wrote:
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don\'t come close.
I wholeheartedly agree. They are both stone cold steady, both can control the ball and pass and move.
Both Nelsen and Samba have become liabilities in defence. However all four central defenders have posses, so let's hope for the latter two that it's only there form that's gone missing temporarily.
[quote][bold]Darren[/bold] wrote:
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don't come close.[/quote] I wholeheartedly agree. They are both stone cold steady, both can control the ball and pass and move.
Both Nelsen and Samba have become liabilities in defence. However all four central defenders posses class, so let's hope for the latter two that it's only their form that's gone missing temporarily.
Darren wrote:
I think our best central two are Khizanishvili and Ooijer...they seem to complement eachothers game better than any other partnership! Nelsen and Samba don't come close.
I wholeheartedly agree. They are both stone cold steady, both can control the ball and pass and move.
Both Nelsen and Samba have become liabilities in defence. However all four central defenders posses class, so let's hope for the latter two that it's only their form that's gone missing temporarily.
Zurab is really underated, and I love that he never complains about being on bench and always working hard when he plays! Samba has been a bit on and off this season, but I think we all have to remember he's only 23 years old,he's bound to make mistakes,but he's a great talent and will grow into a Monumental defender!
Keep the faith! I'm grooving to
J.J. Barnes - Our Love Is In The Pocket
Zurab is really underated, and I love that he never complains about being on bench and always working hard when he plays! Samba has been a bit on and off this season, but I think we all have to remember he's only 23 years old,he's bound to make mistakes,but he's a great talent and will grow into a Monumental defender!
Keep the faith! I'm grooving to
J.J. Barnes - Our Love Is In The Pocket
Posted by: ossy rover, ossy on 8:33am Thu 27 Mar 08
its 8:00am heard the news about Santa to say im devastated is an understatement. the axe was quoted the other day about knowing how to stop santa, the knob.
it looks like it was quite early in the game so it was either a bad injury or he was taken of as a precaution. benni scored he's SA all time top scorer if santa is injured for saturday lets hope that benni makes up for it.
with the news from last night
its hard today to KEEP THE FAITH, but injuries happen in football.
if santa's injury is serious then an apt song is
'nothing compares to you' sinead oconner/prince
ah well come on guys KEEP THE FAITH
its 8:00am heard the news about Santa to say im devastated is an understatement. the axe was quoted the other day about knowing how to stop santa, the knob.
it looks like it was quite early in the game so it was either a bad injury or he was taken of as a precaution. benni scored he's SA all time top scorer if santa is injured for saturday lets hope that benni makes up for it.
with the news from last night
its hard today to KEEP THE FAITH, but injuries happen in football.
if santa's injury is serious then an apt song is
Posted by: Morst the Dingle (88mins) Heartbreaker, Manchester on 12:38pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Woody Riversider[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker[/bold] wrote: [bold][bold]Woody[[/bold] /bold] - Stone Roses Album - now your talking. Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World - superb and on my best of mix which is in car at present. What about Hey Hey My My Into the BLUE - it\'s better to burn out than to fade away! [bold]Ossy[/bold] If we are Dark side of the Mooning then how about \"The Great Gig in the Sky\" - it\'s one of my Bad Day songs to chill out to. As for Claruts it would have to be Brain Damage - Got to keep the Looneys on the path!! [bold]Meanwhile the Blimp has reached Spain[/bold] - should we alert the Barca and Maaidrid fans? [/quote] Morst one more for an entrance: [italic]'IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME'....DODGY.[/italic] A great band(who have relaunched recently seen em at BBC Liverpool) with great sentiment..... The 'Blimp' as been sighted over Holland eye witnessed by a friend of mine!! Hail the 'Blimps' freedom fighters!! [/quote] Is that Hollands pies? Plenty of Rovers fans there! Fancy Blimp pie!
Woody Riversider wrote:
Morst The Dingle (88 mins) Heartbreaker wrote: Woody /bold] - Stone Roses Album - now your talking. Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World - superb and on my best of mix which is in car at present. What about Hey Hey My My Into the BLUE - it\'s better to burn out than to fade away! Ossy If we are Dark side of the Mooning then how about \"The Great Gig in the Sky\" - it\'s one of my Bad Day songs to chill out to. As for Claruts it would have to be Brain Damage - Got to keep the Looneys on the path!! Meanwhile the Blimp has reached Spain - should we alert the Barca and Maaidrid fans?
Morst one more for an entrance: 'IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME'....DODGY. A great band(who have relaunched recently seen em at BBC Liverpool) with great sentiment..... The 'Blimp' as been sighted over Holland eye witnessed by a friend of mine!! Hail the 'Blimps' freedom fighters!!
Is that Hollands pies? Plenty of Rovers fans there! Fancy Blimp pie!
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