INCE OUT

The way Rovers are playing and with the Blackburn board 'afraid' to sack Paul Ince. Olsson won't be in the premier if he stays with Rovers.
INCE OUT NOW

Ince in.

De La Rosa, Pafell and the rest of the torch bearing Gregorian-chanting Neanderthals out.

YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE BASED ON WARNOCKS ASSESSMENT ON OLSSON,ALL THIS INCE OUT NONSENCE IVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT,GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND MANAGER OR DONT BOTHER PUTTING YOUR NEGATVE COMMENTS ON HERE

PAUL INCE BLUE AND WHITE ARMY

8burnley wrote:
YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE BASED ON WARNOCKS ASSESSMENT ON OLSSON,ALL THIS INCE OUT NONSENCE IVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT,GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND MANAGER OR DONT BOTHER PUTTING YOUR NEGATVE COMMENTS ON HERE PAUL INCE BLUE AND WHITE ARMY

I TOTTALLY AGREE - what has this article got to do with this ince out nonsense.

There are too many sad loosers who claim to be rovers fans wasting their enrgy on this ridiculous ince out campaign.

if any one has seen a very very interesting column by OLIVER HOLT in todays daily mirror... it will give all you sad INCE out brigade somthing to reflect on..

Its title says it all... "The Ince War is clear as black and white" and
to quote some extracts ...

"Why do you think it is that Paul Ince is being written off as a manager only a few games into his 1st job in the premier league?"
Why do you think nobodys cutting him the same slack we cut for Roy Keane, even though he spent 10times as much money?......it goes on to mention the chance Tony Adams has been given after failing in his 1st job ,
it concludes.."Why do you think people are calling for Ince's head when he's barely been in charge for 120 days?"

I suggest you read the artlcle and reflect.

Thankfully... John Williams and the Board are not going to pay any attention to the stupid people on these message boards who know NOTHING !

PAUL INCE's BLUE N WHITE ARMY !!!

Parker & Brett wrote:
Ince in.

De La Rosa, Pafell and the rest of the torch bearing Gregorian-chanting Neanderthals out.

Parker & Brett of Pompous & Co Incorp.

Is it just me or is it ironic that those of us who predicted the current plight of Blackburn Rovers on these pages months ago are pompously shouted down as draconian, knuckle dragging morons. Surely such slow-witted excuses for humanity, such as myself, would find it impossible to anticipate our present predicament?

Among Mark Hughes's numerous talents was his ability to take average players and improve them, to maximise their talent and get the best out of them. Look what he did with Bentley, Bellamy etc.

Paul Ince has done the complete opposite. Not to mention Hughes's nouse at getting in quality on the cheap and finding players like Nelsen and Samba for next to nothing. Again Ince is coming up embarassingly short in that department bringing in Fowler et al.

Then there's the shambolic backroom team which is an unco-ordinated disaster, a defensive coach who spends his time at Arsenal and the obviously substandard training and fitness work which has resulted in half the squad being injured.

I'm not saying Ince out for the fun of it you know, i'm saying it cause i honestly cannot see a way out of relegation under Ince. Again i say the only way to avoid it now is by scrapping and sticking your foot in (what we did under Hughes to escape) and i haven't seen any of that fight lately. Instead i've seen the fight and energy drain out of us, to a situation where we now roll over to opponents. The mental strength we had under Hughes has vanished, now when we go behind the players look incapable of coming back. The other thing is the energy we had, the bite, has gone under Ince. That's down to the training being poor. Hughes was at the forefront, just look at what Ireland said the other day about what a pleasure it is to FINALLY play under a PROPER manage in Hughes, after Keegan, Pearce and Eriksson.

I haven't seen any signs of development under Ince either, if there was, i would have reason to be optimistic.

Like i said, i'm not saying Ince out for the fun of it, i am fearing the inevitable if we don't do something right now, before it's too late.

I DO think we can get Strachan in, Celtic are out of Europe entirely now, he can't do any more with them, and he's surely had enough of the tin-pot Scottish league and would relish a return to the Premiership. And yes, i know it would take most of the Bentley money to pay off Ince and get Strachan, but i think it'd be worth it to save our Prem status and start moving forward again.

Can I suggest that all those in favour of Ince continuing his gallop to the Championship raise your erudite, well manicured hands to the sky.

All those who want a real manager - just grunt, it's obviously all we're capable of.

Is he black? Wow. I hadn't noticed. However I have noticed how successful he has been in the transfer market. NOT. I have noticed how he plays people in their best positions. NOT. I have noticed how we are challenging for Europe. NOT. I have noticed how he made sure that we replaced Bentley adequately. NOT. The sooner Mr Ince and his band of hangers-on, has-beens, never-beens & never-will-be-agains are sent packing the sooner we can get someone in who might just save us from the drop.

Those who support ince are the same fans who bugger off early every game to dodge the traffic. There arragance to match with inces is destroying this club. I dont care if warnock thinks ollsen has a big future, as Rovers will have no future unless ince is put out of his misery now. The article is about individuals, but rovers are a team, win and lose as a team. There is no shining light at the end of the tunnel. Will you ince lovers be back next season saying give him a chance to take us up, he has experiance in the lower divisions??? Or will you be calling for your doctors to repair your brains after you supported the clown?? I did not agree with his appointment but was willing to wait and see how he got on, its obviously not worked. we suddenly have a squad that no-one else would want and reminds me of kidds rovers where when we went down our best players went and we never reinvested and only the luck of having a few home bread players actually took us back up. Look atb the likes of charlton, sheff wed, leeds, ipswich, norwich, southhamton, clubs with bigger support and probaly more money at this time, yet they dont look like they will be playing premiership football anytime soon either. Im not willing to wait and see cos no-one is mystic meg but you dont have to be a genious to see were rovers will end up if he stays. Football is about opinions but is also about results and winning. We have lots of opinions but no results and no winning so i say pls go now

Do you sit there (where ever you may be) every day bearing your fangs at others, an advocate of enmity and cynicism if you will?

By the way, your trotters have dried crusty blood on them. Should probably get that checked out.

glen9mullan wrote:
Those who support ince are the same fans who bugger off early every game to dodge the traffic. There arragance to match with inces is destroying this club. I dont care if warnock thinks ollsen has a big future, as Rovers will have no future unless ince is put out of his misery now. The article is about individuals, but rovers are a team, win and lose as a team. There is no shining light at the end of the tunnel. Will you ince lovers be back next season saying give him a chance to take us up, he has experiance in the lower divisions??? Or will you be calling for your doctors to repair your brains after you supported the clown?? I did not agree with his appointment but was willing to wait and see how he got on, its obviously not worked. we suddenly have a squad that no-one else would want and reminds me of kidds rovers where when we went down our best players went and we never reinvested and only the luck of having a few home bread players actually took us back up. Look atb the likes of charlton, sheff wed, leeds, ipswich, norwich, southhamton, clubs with bigger support and probaly more money at this time, yet they dont look like they will be playing premiership football anytime soon either. Im not willing to wait and see cos no-one is mystic meg but you dont have to be a genious to see were rovers will end up if he stays. Football is about opinions but is also about results and winning. We have lots of opinions but no results and no winning so i say pls go now

best advice i've heard on here for a long while

Have any of you ""Ince out" brigade read Andy Cryer in Wed LT?
"Hughes was a slow starter."
His record when he first arrived shows virtually no difference to our new manager. 14 games 14 pts 14 games 13 pts, spot the difference 1 pt. Wow! For goodness sake get of his back and wait at least until Christmas to hang him, he's not a turkey ready for the plucking.

In the spirit of fairness....

Forgetting results for a moment possibly the best judge of a new manager would be the people he has brought in. Successes or not? You decide:

Robinson
Grella
Andrews
Villanueva
Simpson
Fowler
Winterburn
Knox
Mathias

Doesn't look that bright does it...

STOP F**KIN MOANIN!

Pompey have got AC Milan tomorrow, its a bloody good time to play them.

oliver holt is very stupid. he does write for the mirror after all. i dont want ince out but i can see why people do. its nothing to do with racism, its the fact we're 2nd from bottom after several seasons near the top.

A Darener wrote:
Have any of you ""Ince out" brigade read Andy Cryer in Wed LT? "Hughes was a slow starter." His record when he first arrived shows virtually no difference to our new manager. 14 games 14 pts 14 games 13 pts, spot the difference 1 pt. Wow! For goodness sake get of his back and wait at least until Christmas to hang him, he's not a turkey ready for the plucking.

Hughes inherited a team that had almost been relegated under Souness and turned it into challengers for a European place.

Ince inherited that team and has turned them into mush.

With the money from the sales of Friedel and Bentley you would think that we might just have added some quality. You know. Like Villa did. But no. We get Fowler, Andrews, Grella etc etc. They got Nicky Shorey, Luke Young, James Milner, Steve Sidwell, Carlos Cuellar etc etc. Last season they were 6th we were 7th. Just think if we'd have got just a couple of the new Villa guys and they were lumbered with our mob.....

seriousrover wrote:

8burnley wrote: YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE BASED ON WARNOCKS ASSESSMENT ON OLSSON,ALL THIS INCE OUT NONSENCE IVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT,GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND MANAGER OR DONT BOTHER PUTTING YOUR NEGATVE COMMENTS ON HERE PAUL INCE BLUE AND WHITE ARMY

I TOTTALLY AGREE - what has this article got to do with this ince out nonsense. There are too many sad loosers who claim to be rovers fans wasting their enrgy on this ridiculous ince out campaign. if any one has seen a very very interesting column by OLIVER HOLT in todays daily mirror... it will give all you sad INCE out brigade somthing to reflect on.. Its title says it all... "The Ince War is clear as black and white" and to quote some extracts ... "Why do you think it is that Paul Ince is being written off as a manager only a few games into his 1st job in the premier league?" Why do you think nobodys cutting him the same slack we cut for Roy Keane, even though he spent 10times as much money?......it goes on to mention the chance Tony Adams has been given after failing in his 1st job , it concludes.."Why do you think people are calling for Ince's head when he's barely been in charge for 120 days?" I suggest you read the artlcle and reflect. Thankfully... John Williams and the Board are not going to pay any attention to the stupid people on these message boards who know NOTHING ! PAUL INCE's BLUE N WHITE ARMY !!!

That load of rubbish you have referred to is one of the worst, laziest, and most offensive pieces of "journalism" I have ever read!

The daily Mirror - the very same paper which has never forgiven Rovers for having the audacity to win the league in 1995. The same paper who claimed John Williams drew out the appointment of Paul Ince to gain column inches, while depriving them of the opportunity to write even more about Christiano Ronaldo's Real Madrid saga. The same paper who, a couple of weeks ago gave Blackburn Rovers "Bryan Andrews" star man. The same paper who week in week out write the most errornous, ridiculous, and clearly fabricated match reports I have ever seen.

Paul Ince is being criticised because Blackburn Rovers are 19th in the league, we are playing poorly, there seems to be no heart or passion in our performances, and his attitude to the fans and club is questionable. He is clearly enjoying the limelight a bit to much, and feels the need to comment on anything football related - even though it is none of his concern, which aside form having a detremental effect to the team, is making him a laughing stock.

Football journalists are a horrible breed - those who work for the telegraph are just as bad (the late Peter White aside). They have little idea about their subject matter. They think they have profound ideas, which anyone with an ounce of sense instantly dismisses as ridiculous. They write with an arrogance that endeers them to no-one but idiots and their editors.

If you want to subscribe to this ridiculous notion, then you are stupid. You're probably an NME reading student.
Rovers fans aren't bombarding the dugout with bananas, they are voicing their displeasure and concern at the plight of our team. And there's little wonder. Clearly the manager must take some responsibility.

We are 19th in the league. Fans wouldn't be happy with the manager if he was black, white or even purple like Fergie!

8burnley wrote:
YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE BASED ON WARNOCKS ASSESSMENT ON OLSSON,ALL THIS INCE OUT NONSENCE IVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT,GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND MANAGER OR DONT BOTHER PUTTING YOUR NEGATVE COMMENTS ON HERE PAUL INCE BLUE AND WHITE ARMY

Totally agree.

Which of the 'Ince Out' brigade are going to pay his severance money (along with his staff as well)? That money could otherwise be used to buy players.

Glen9mullan - can you prove your statement that those who support Paul Ince leave early to avoid traffic? I support Ince and I stay until the end and support the team off however well they have or haven't played.

Surely it is more likely those who don't support Ince who go early; I know of a few sitting near me of that persuasion who go with 5 minutes left to play!

PAUL INCE'S BLUE AND WHITE ARMY!

...but where there's moonlight and love and romance...

...let's face the music and dance!

One thing is for absolute certain, the momentum is gathering for Ince to be released from his duties & I feel that the next two games will decide that. History shows that by xmas time the gap opens up for those around the bottom of the league. Already the gap is opening(Wigan monday) The results over week-end(last) could not have been worse for BRFC's plight. We as a club are the second worst for conceding goals.Only WBA have a worse one than us & look were they are!! I believe that stats & facts prove the point of BRFC plight NOT WHAT Ince is spouting post match. I said this the recently & having watched & played(amatuer) football for at least 35 years THIS TEAM IS NOT PLAYING FOR INCE OR HIS STAFF!! I aint saying it is easy to manage at Prem level & with an experienced eye I FIRMLY BELIEVE Ince is unable to adapt quickly enough to save our Prem status. Given time,then I'm sure he will do that but we all know,time is something that is not available. Everyone on here screaming from the rooftops are 100% concerned for our Prem status & that is the bottom line.
Arte et labore

I think Olsson has similar traits as the lad Clichy at Arsenal and could be a cracking player given the chance. Pedersen did him no favours at Spuds and without cover I think most left backs will struggle. The lads on;y young and has been pretty much thrown in this season.
On the wing side of our play, I think this is the total problem, Pedersen inept on the left and right mid non existent. Great strikers (I class Benni in this too) need service, we haven't been providing the ammunition and as we have never replaced Bentley I think it is of little surprise that the goals have somewhat dried up. Too many players who can fill various roles but not enough out and out players for the position.
Pennant in Jan??

How many of the players Hughes last played, started for Ince? Transfers, injuries etc. mean that he cannot play last seasons fantastic, brilliant, world beating team that took the premiership by storm. Oops! I just woke up.

paul inces blue and white army,paul inces blue and white army,paul inces blue and white army,

COME THE CITY GAME AT HOME YOU WILL ALL BE CHANTING IT !!!!

Support your team & support your manager through thick and thin! Keep the faith.

Parker & Brett wrote:
Do you sit there (where ever you may be) every day bearing your fangs at others, an advocate of enmity and cynicism if you will?

By the way, your trotters have dried crusty blood on them. Should probably get that checked out.

Grunt.

Prediction: Paul Ince will be sacked after the Stoke game. Failure in a home game is what usually tips the fans over the edge. I think he'll get away with losing to Liverpool as they are a better team than us. Failure to beat Stoke would even have the "Keep the faith, Ince is great" brigade changing their tune.

londonrover wrote:
Support your team & support your manager through thick and thin! Keep the faith.

I am, points are thin and some people are thick - ba bum

ince in!

i'm loving a good laugh week in week out

Jinkyjase in. He has the required experience of the Cretaceous period and enough anger to humble Mr Furious. Essential beyond essential.

Woody Riversider wrote:
One thing is for absolute certain, the momentum is gathering for Ince to be released from his duties & I feel that the next two games will decide that. History shows that by xmas time the gap opens up for those around the bottom of the league. Already the gap is opening(Wigan monday) The results over week-end(last) could not have been worse for BRFC's plight. We as a club are the second worst for conceding goals.Only WBA have a worse one than us & look were they are!! I believe that stats & facts prove the point of BRFC plight NOT WHAT Ince is spouting post match. I said this the recently & having watched & played(amatuer) football for at least 35 years THIS TEAM IS NOT PLAYING FOR INCE OR HIS STAFF!! I aint saying it is easy to manage at Prem level & with an experienced eye I FIRMLY BELIEVE Ince is unable to adapt quickly enough to save our Prem status. Given time,then I'm sure he will do that but we all know,time is something that is not available. Everyone on here screaming from the rooftops are 100% concerned for our Prem status & that is the bottom line.
Arte et labore

Woody - think you have to give him Wigan, Stoke, Sunderland and City to be fair.
Where's Ossy - on another of those long holidays? - hope his not stick in Thailand - lol. I wonder if he knows the rovers columnist (Myles)has nicked his keep the faith anthem? (Or is Ossy Myles?)

30 YEARS AND COUNTING!

The Player wrote:
STOP F**KIN MOANIN!

Pompey have got AC Milan tomorrow, its a bloody good time to play them.

Best point of the day as it is Portsmouth's biggest Euro game ever. 8.05 kick off as well - So if we can't welly into Portsmouth at 100mph and get a result you would start to panic instead of worry.

30 YEARS AND STILL LAUGHING AT RAyzer!

Warnock said: “Martin Olsson is more than capable of playing in there. A lot of people see him as the left back at this club for years to come and I see him as that myself."
Is this because he is planning to bugger off in January?

Spanish 82 said: "Among Mark Hughes's numerous talents was his ability to take average players and improve them, to maximise their talent and get the best out of them. Look what he did with Bentley, Bellamy etc."

Agreed. For the sake of balance (and not to decry Mark Hughes who was a good manager)also remember that Morty and Benni McCarthy were sub-standard last season under Hughes.

"Paul Ince has done the complete opposite."

I also don't believe that Paul Robinson was an average player who has become worse at Rovers, in the "complete opposite" manner you suggest.

It was also on Hughes' watch that we lost for the first time ever to Wigan who put five past us, and lost 1-4 in the Cup to Coventry. We were capable of good things last season, but also we didn't have strength in depth then, and we could be poor at times.

Hughes' time was not all good - and Ince is not all bad.

It seems that injuries now are down to poor training methods,though no substantive evidence is provided. Injuries also happened under Hughes (Bellamy,Nelsen,Pete
r, Reid.)

Manjola wrote "Glen9mullan - can you prove your statement that those who support Paul Ince leave early to avoid traffic?" I think we know the answer to that. I know when I leave Ewood - he does not know me,and does not know when I leave. However, he obviously has some agenda to be claiming he does.

I don't want to be stereotyped by others as a supporter who claims loyalty and leaves early; nor caricatured as one taking an extremist position in criticising other supporters as "draconian, knuckle dragging morons" or "slow-witted excuses for humanity" (Jinkyjase) I'd like to get back to talking about Rovers.

Pete Doc wrote:
Spanish 82 said: "Among Mark Hughes's numerous talents was his ability to take average players and improve them, to maximise their talent and get the best out of them. Look what he did with Bentley, Bellamy etc." Agreed. For the sake of balance (and not to decry Mark Hughes who was a good manager)also remember that Morty and Benni McCarthy were sub-standard last season under Hughes. "Paul Ince has done the complete opposite." I also don't believe that Paul Robinson was an average player who has become worse at Rovers, in the "complete opposite" manner you suggest. It was also on Hughes' watch that we lost for the first time ever to Wigan who put five past us, and lost 1-4 in the Cup to Coventry. We were capable of good things last season, but also we didn't have strength in depth then, and we could be poor at times. Hughes' time was not all good - and Ince is not all bad. It seems that injuries now are down to poor training methods,though no substantive evidence is provided. Injuries also happened under Hughes (Bellamy,Nelsen,Pete r, Reid.) Manjola wrote "Glen9mullan - can you prove your statement that those who support Paul Ince leave early to avoid traffic?" I think we know the answer to that. I know when I leave Ewood - he does not know me,and does not know when I leave. However, he obviously has some agenda to be claiming he does. I don't want to be stereotyped by others as a supporter who claims loyalty and leaves early; nor caricatured as one taking an extremist position in criticising other supporters as "draconian, knuckle dragging morons" or "slow-witted excuses for humanity" (Jinkyjase) I'd like to get back to talking about Rovers.

Yes. Let's get back to talking about Rovers.

So out of 14 League games so far when did it actually become acceptable not to take full points from the mighty teams that are Hull, West Brom, West Ham, Bolton, Middlesbro, & Sunderland. And we are supposed to look forward to the likes of Wigan, Stoke, Sunderland & City as show-ins for three points?

We've managed to beat Fulham (shouldn't everyone?), Newcastle (everyone was doing) & Everton (before they got their season going). Big deal. Ince = Kidd and he should do the honourable thing and quit cos if we go down this time we won't be coming back any time soon....

I just hope it turns around. As for Holt. He's just a sh5t stirring weasel who appeals to the lowest common denominator and make some news for himself as he tries to become a TV 'personality' like a few others of his trade have been doing.

...I think this is the thing: Ince is obviously not doing a good job, if you look at results, plus the formations he is using.
The more positive/constructiv
e supporters may not be convinced about him, and are obviously nervous about the situation, but can see from the injuries, and the way that he didn't rush into the transfer market when he arrived, that the best policy (for the time being) is to bear with him for a few more games. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE SUPPORTERS ARE INCE LOVERS. He doesn't play players out of position unless he has to, he perseveres with Pederson because there are no better options, he plays one up front to accomodate Villenueva. Tugay is awesome, but too old, he gets caught on the ball when tired. Ince brought in Mathias/Knox cos he needs experience alongside him, he signs Andrews cos he knows he will be a good player for Blackburn Rovers, and was within budget. Ince is trying to do things right. Even the more optimistic supporters would question his abilities at the moment, and whichever way, we need to improve before Christmas, but it's hard to see the point of mindlessly pulling the guy to pieces, he is trying to do things the right way, and is having a tough time. Whether he is good enough or not, we need to stick by him for a few more games, its the only thing to do! Come on Incey!!

We all want the same thing, rovers to win games!!!, to stay up!!! and another european adventure!!! How can anyone with half a brain really see paul ince delivering on all 3 points??? I have said this before and will say it again, all he had to do was buy a goal keeper and right winger. Bought us a keeper, who the jury is still out on, but brad was irreplacable and one of the biggest transfer suprises ever at rovers that he wanted to leave. Didnt replace bentley, instead signed a load of players who to this day i still cant understand why? The team seems to get a new long term injury every week and is this coincidental that its only since he took over. Dunny for instance was always injured at birmingham, then was injury free under souness and hughes at ewood, this guy comes in and guess what he is injury prone again. The same can be said of other players who have a history of injuries yet under hughes always seemed fit, Cruz being another one of them. Just because he played for some of europes biggest clubs and had a successful time at mk dons and macclesfield does not make him a premiership manager. Why do you think dario graddi spent all those years at crewe?? it was because that was what he was good at lower division sides and would be out of his depth in the premiership. The lower divisions rely heavily on their scouting network which is put in place by the clubs! the premiership allows managers to come in and choose there own staff as its run more proffessional, meaning ince and his staff dont have the capabilities or know how how to scout europe and train a full time team to the level which shows proffesionalism, in a very much big brother sport where everyone around the world is watching. There is no magic fix to this situation, a new manager would have to wait til january to re-invest in the squad, and judging by our boards history of not providing cash then this could prove probmatic. If a new guy comes in now least he has a chance to access the squad, However with all the players out, this would certainly tie the hands of the board and the willingness to hand over any more cash or make more funds available for wages. We all have to ask ourselves who in the right mind would want the rovers job now, with a squad lacking so much quality and with the chance of gettingt any money slim. This would be a bad move for anyones cv. So its catch 22 time do we stick or bust???? if ince stays we are going down, if he goes we may still go down, has the damage already been done??? has he blown our transfer budget for the season??? only time will tell.

I'm afraid it's getting to the crucial stage where if we are going to change manager it needs to be done very soon. If somebody else comes in they will need most of December to assess the situation and that will take time.
Its alright saying give Ince until after the Stoke game, but what happens if we don't win that? It could be mid-January before we have a replacement and he won't have time to make signings.
The excuse that Ince didn't have much time over the summer to sort his own team out is starting to wear a bit thin. Other managers at Stoke, Hull and West Brom had to turn their teams from Championship to Premiership in the same timeframe and they look more at home in this division than us. All Ince had to do in two months was to replace Bentley and Friedel and he hasn't even done that well.

I'm pretty sure there would be numerous candidates for the Rovers job. OK its a risk and we claim to not have any money but it's one of the best run clubs around and a very good opportunity for any manager to prove himself.

By my calculations we spent less than 10 million on players over the summer, and yet we also seem to have brought in more than 20 million (Bentley, Friedel, Hughes, Trustees Money)so where has it all gone? Or is the money there but we've got such a fantastic side that we don't need to spend any more money.

I'm afraid that if the board don't act quick enough, replace Ince and back their manager like every other premier league club does then it looks like we'll be a Championship team next year

Don't like to be negative all the time, just giving a realistic assessment on what I've seen this year

Lets just pray that Burnley don't get promoted

Parker & Brett wrote:
Ince in. De La Rosa, Pafell and the rest of the torch bearing Gregorian-chanting Neanderthals out.

The league table says enough - unless those who are happy with Paul Ince, the results on the pitch the performance of the players - the lack of wins / points - lack of input from the trusties - like championship football - then all is well

Ince out now Big Sam in otherwise we're doomed

all those crying that we would have to pay him out ,so what,does that mean also that we keep paying him to drag us down ,for not getting results ?DO WE?last time i looked a manager was rated on what he did,and results,he his not doing his job correctly....and i am pi$$ed off of all the ones that come on saying we are only 3 points this,and 6 points that.....HELLO !!!.its the points on the board that count,are you all going to be saying this last day of the season ?whooo if we get 12 points today were safe !!!!it does not work like that does it?(and yes i know you cannot get 12 points from a game,but you know what i mean)if the table finished today ,we would be down,and thats my point,And yes if we have to pay him off,it would cost money,but on the other hand if he took us down it would cost us a damm sight more in the long term,(prem status,prem money )which is more than he is worth to the club,......and then if he sent us down ,do we stick with him ?do we carry on paying him for a job he has already failed at ?Mr ince is failing ,fast and the table says that,so please no more of this 3 points $hit,if we loose the next game and others around us get results what are we going to say then,just keep cranking up the points we need !!!,i also read someone going on about easy games coming up !!..there are no easy games when you are ,where we are,the sunderland and tott,games proved that ,some of you are living in cloud cookoo land .......to some of you in what you say would be happy in the championship,and some you call yourself rovers fans !!!!at least me and others want to stay in this leugue...and it takes a change of managers i am all for that ,and you can call me what you want !!!.....but finally can anbody tell me what he is doing right,cos i cannot see a damm thing ....

steve in chester wrote:
Ince out now Big Sam in otherwise we're doomed

Horlicks - he got Bolton relegated. What makes you think pass and move players that Sounness, Hughes and Ince have brought in have got even 1% of desire to play Fat Sam football? So unless there is £100m to spend to change the squad to "Lump it to Davies football"?
If Ince doesn't turn things around by Jan 1st after games against Stoke, Wigan, Sunderland and City then "Owen Coyle's" the man. He has made a silk purse out of the sows ear down the M65 whist playing the game the right way that Rovers current squad would appreciate and he would relish a move to a big club with a transfer budget bigger than the Dingles turnover!

30 YEARS AND STILL LAUGHING RAyzer!

jeppo wrote:
...I think this is the thing: Ince is obviously not doing a good job, if you look at results, plus the formations he is using.
The more positive/constructiv

e supporters may not be convinced about him, and are obviously nervous about the situation, but can see from the injuries, and the way that he didn't rush into the transfer market when he arrived, that the best policy (for the time being) is to bear with him for a few more games. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE SUPPORTERS ARE INCE LOVERS. He doesn't play players out of position unless he has to, he perseveres with Pederson because there are no better options, he plays one up front to accomodate Villenueva. Tugay is awesome, but too old, he gets caught on the ball when tired. Ince brought in Mathias/Knox cos he needs experience alongside him, he signs Andrews cos he knows he will be a good player for Blackburn Rovers, and was within budget. Ince is trying to do things right. Even the more optimistic supporters would question his abilities at the moment, and whichever way, we need to improve before Christmas, but it's hard to see the point of mindlessly pulling the guy to pieces, he is trying to do things the right way, and is having a tough time. Whether he is good enough or not, we need to stick by him for a few more games, its the only thing to do! Come on Incey!!

Jeppo - just about a perfect summing up mate. Do you know if Ossy is stuck in Thailand?

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Mike Costa says:

This is all getting really daft. I take it that most people writing in want Rovers to succeed (except Rayzer, the Citeh supporters and that knob from Middlesboro').
We all will have our ideas who the best person to get us out of trouble is. Unfortunately, the board are not going to be swayed by what amounts to petulance. Ince is here for the mid-term at least. Get used to it, get behind the team and, if you can, pray!

jeppo wrote:
...I think this is the thing: Ince is obviously not doing a good job, if you look at results, plus the formations he is using. The more positive/constructiv e supporters may not be convinced about him, and are obviously nervous about the situation, but can see from the injuries, and the way that he didn't rush into the transfer market when he arrived, that the best policy (for the time being) is to bear with him for a few more games. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE SUPPORTERS ARE INCE LOVERS. He doesn't play players out of position unless he has to, he perseveres with Pederson because there are no better options, he plays one up front to accomodate Villenueva. Tugay is awesome, but too old, he gets caught on the ball when tired. Ince brought in Mathias/Knox cos he needs experience alongside him, he signs Andrews cos he knows he will be a good player for Blackburn Rovers, and was within budget. Ince is trying to do things right. Even the more optimistic supporters would question his abilities at the moment, and whichever way, we need to improve before Christmas, but it's hard to see the point of mindlessly pulling the guy to pieces, he is trying to do things the right way, and is having a tough time. Whether he is good enough or not, we need to stick by him for a few more games, its the only thing to do! Come on Incey!!

One of the best posts put on here mate.
Fat Sam-Please god no.

hey lets all chant together INCE OUT, INCE OUT,

mmmmmmm i'm sure thats going to do a lot of good, maybe Mr Williams will come on here and start listening to all you ince haters. ha ha ha

u all make me laugh. like its going to do anything.

It's time the L.E.T. started to represent the views of the majority of Rovers fans - Ince out. Andy Cryer is not a Rovers fan and simply tells us what the club want us to know. Has he reported the imminent arrival of Andy Cole as AN attacking coach? Another job for the boys.

morst nope not on holiday just a concerned fan. reading what everybody else has to say some of it is rubbish some not. those on here who keep comparing hughes with ince see it with rose tinted glasses for all the good players he brought to the club he also brought some donkeys, and lets not forget the two better players we have or had during his time were brought in by souness (tugs brad) im not really bothered how other teams are doing the main concern is BRFC, but hughes has took over a side that has plenty of money and who spent approx £50M more than us in the summer and are 3 points (or is it 4) better off than us hardly a success ide say.
i know you have been banging the drum about boycotting the united game next week but way i see it that could be a pivotal game for our season win that and we have a chance of a cup final, and that may be the difference of certain players staying with us after the next transfer window. personally if we can keep the current squad and add to it in certain area's in the transfer window im confident we have the quality to climb the table. should we lose RSC and Warnock then i think the rest of the season will be tough.
a lot of people on here are slagging of performances and players, but apart from the big 3 Arsenal,utd, chelsea, we could have and should have beaten Hull,boro, and sunderland, we didnt and thats the reason we are were we are.
im not pro or anti ince and like a lot of other supporters i am baffled by some of his decisions especially substitutions, but then hughes also baffled me sometimes last season.
i still have faith we will get out of the mess we are in with or without ince.

to all rovers fans out there

keep the faith

allyb said -

1) "We've managed to beat Fulham (shouldn't everyone?)" Have you forgotten last season under Hughes when we surrendered two home points to Fulham in the run-in?

2) "Newcastle (everyone was doing)" so, we did as well as everyone else - what does that prove?

3) "& Everton (before they got their season going)" Yes, and again in the Coca Cola when they had got it going! As we beat Everton away on the first day of the season no-one had got their season going.

Drawing at home to Hull was not a major catastrophe in view of their performances elsewhere. You discount our away victory at Everton saying they hadn't got their season going but when we draw out first home match Rovers are fair game for your carping.

"Ince = Kidd" (wrong - Ince succeeded in the lower tiers: Kidd did not)

"and he should do the honourable thing and quit" No, you should quit writing this anti-Rovers propaganda.

8burnley wrote:
paul inces blue and white army,paul inces blue and white army,paul inces blue and white army, COME THE CITY GAME AT HOME YOU WILL ALL BE CHANTING IT !!!!

i bloody wont - i'll be shouting INCE out - if he hasnt already been sacked by then

Whalleywonder wrote:
It's time the L.E.T. started to represent the views of the majority of Rovers fans - Ince out. Andy Cryer is not a Rovers fan and simply tells us what the club want us to know. Has he reported the imminent arrival of Andy Cole as AN attacking coach? Another job for the boys.

Ossy - good to hear your views. So what did you make of the LET columnist nicking your logo on Tuesday - or is it you?
Whalleywonder - Interesting views about fair representation. OK some fans react too soon after games but even as an Ince supporter (at present)I would still say 80% were anti-Ince after the Spurs game yet the LET Tuesday showed only the 20% of us who were supporting Ince - do you think Rovers have leaned on the LET? Democracy - a great idea as long as you are in control!

30 YEARS AND WHERE IS RAyzer HIDING!

The most worrying thing is that Ince seems to think that the team is playing well! enough said!

at the start of the season i said we will find it hard under ince, and we have. i also said i would give him time. i have and i dont think he i right for us.

his poor management, tactics, and buys (back room staff) and playing the lads out of the correct positions have left us in a mess. Its a mess which can be fixed but not by ince.

Just because i dont want ince as manager does not make me a bad fan, it makes me a fan who wants the best for the club, a fan who is worried about our premiership status, a fan who thinks action needs to be taken now not in a few months time when it could be to late!.

Everyone is allowed their view, and should not be called childish names by others for expressing that view!

At the end of the day we wont all agree, its ok to say "i disagree and this is why ......." but to say people are idoits etc is totally out of order and alot of people on here need to grow up

I have long thought that the Lancashire Telegraph have an agreement with Rovers. They only print positive stories about the club and in return get access to players and information. As such they will never suggest the sacking of a manager. Similarly the marks out of ten in the match reports: Is it not possible to receive less than four out of ten.? Martin Olsen got 4 for the Spurs game when he surely would have been lucky to get none. I think it is about 80% who want Ince out. It will be 90% after the Liverpool game and 98% after Stoke, with just the "keep the faith" brigade on these pages screaming disloyalty at the majority.

Billypieman - Post match was 80% but not overall. Its about 50/50 at present though none of us are happy!
If LET yield to Rovers pressure then its as the Eagles sang - "Journalism dead and gone" - we get the true feelings on here!
Still backing Ince until Wigan / Stoke though!

30 YEARS AND COUNTING!

billypieman, i am keeping the faith in my team. doesnt neccessarily mean im backing the manager, and you cannot bring up any posts i have made were i have accused other supporters with views that i dont agree with as cretins neanderthals or any other such terminology. everybody has a right to a view whether i agree with it or not. there are certain players i think should be in the team and others not but the players i think are rubbish (some brought to the club by the previuos manager) i dont shout it from the rooftops because as far as im concerned they still play for brfc and hopefully when called upon can still have a good game.
as stated some of ince's team selection/substituti
ons baffle me, but we still have quality in the present squad to get us out of trouble.
it seems to me for whatever reason there are a number of supporters who actually want ince to fail, im different i want whoever the manager is to succeed and if that manager is ince i dont really care. so long as he is succeeding.
and no matter what i will still keep the faith even if it means the worst nightmare happens, because i believe in brfc not the faces who happen to be playing or running the club.

keep the faith

ps morst i have only ever used 1 name on here i dont need to hide behind other psuedynoms.

keep the faith

psuewhatisms Ossy - that's a big word.
I doubt you were born Ossy Rover so you could be John Myles the Rovers LET fans columnist - if not sue him if you have patented "Keep The Faith" - lol.

30 YEARS AND COUNTING!

Ossy, I want Rovers to succeed as much as anyone whoever the manager is. I know you personally haven't slated people for expressing an opinion, but others on this site certainly have. Any criticism of Ince is met with allegations of either disloyalty or stupidity. There are many well documented areas where the manager has made bad or misjudged decisions in transfers, team selections and substitution and surely as fans we have the right to express our views good or bad. The problem I have with the "keep the faith" stuff is that it implies we should blindly and unquestioningly follow the manager regardless of evidence suggesting he is not the man to take us forward. There is always a right time to sack managers, the only real debate is how long he gets. Four more games I reckon. Defeat to Stoke at home and its goodnight Charlie.