Blackburn Rovers sign goalkeeper Jason Steele and midfielder Ryan Tunnicliffe on season-long loans

Boro keeper Jason Steele has signed for Rovers

Boro keeper Jason Steele has signed for Rovers

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BLACKBURN Rovers have signed Fulham midfielder Ryan Tunnicliffe and Middlesbrough goalkeeper Jason Steele on season-long loans.

The duo completed their moves just before the window closed at 11pm.

Tunnicliffe said: "I can't wait to get started.

"First and foremost it is a massive club, a club that belongs in the Premier League, so I'm looking forward to getting back playing and obviously the target is to get the club back up there."

Earlier in the day Rovers signed Shane Duffy on a three-year deal from Everton while allowing fellow centre back Jack O'Connell to rejoin Rochdale on loan until January 3.

See tomorrow's Lancashire Telegraph for more. 

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11:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

steralc says...

That's brilliant
We're doomed
Doomed I tell
Doomed
That's brilliant We're doomed Doomed I tell Doomed steralc
  • Score: -37

11:12pm Mon 1 Sep 14

dinglecrusher says...

Totally underwhelmed by this window. Mid table mediocrity beckons.
Totally underwhelmed by this window. Mid table mediocrity beckons. dinglecrusher
  • Score: -21

11:14pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Angry From Accrington says...

A midfielder........ju
st what we need!
A midfielder........ju st what we need! Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -16

11:14pm Mon 1 Sep 14

digitusjonfred says...

A goalkeeper ???
A goalkeeper ??? digitusjonfred
  • Score: -11

11:21pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Markj87 says...

Think its a great days work.
Needed a back up for robbo as I didnt trust kean/eastwood
Needed another midfielder to kick willimson out of team and defence well we all knew that was needed and duffy was in team of season in championship last year. Very happy.
Now up to GB to pick right players and be more positive with tactics.
Think its a great days work. Needed a back up for robbo as I didnt trust kean/eastwood Needed another midfielder to kick willimson out of team and defence well we all knew that was needed and duffy was in team of season in championship last year. Very happy. Now up to GB to pick right players and be more positive with tactics. Markj87
  • Score: 38

11:21pm Mon 1 Sep 14

holmesy69 says...

Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb holmesy69
  • Score: 22

11:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

owd nick says...

More than happy with our signings, centre half with PL and championship experience, hard working midfielder and a keeper who when you look at his stats, and listen to Boro' fans is far better than I first thought.

Not bad GB, not bad at all.
More than happy with our signings, centre half with PL and championship experience, hard working midfielder and a keeper who when you look at his stats, and listen to Boro' fans is far better than I first thought. Not bad GB, not bad at all. owd nick
  • Score: 26

11:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Stone Island: says...

steralc wrote:
That's brilliant
We're doomed
Doomed I tell
Doomed
Is the backward claret now pretending to be a Rovers fan? What a DUMBBELL you are!
[quote][p][bold]steralc[/bold] wrote: That's brilliant We're doomed Doomed I tell Doomed[/p][/quote]Is the backward claret now pretending to be a Rovers fan? What a DUMBBELL you are! Stone Island:
  • Score: 18

11:22pm Mon 1 Sep 14

jimluftas says...

steralc wrote:
That's brilliant
We're doomed
Doomed I tell
Doomed
Meek.
[quote][p][bold]steralc[/bold] wrote: That's brilliant We're doomed Doomed I tell Doomed[/p][/quote]Meek. jimluftas
  • Score: 13

11:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

digitusjonfred says...

this page is for opinions holmesy69
this page is for opinions holmesy69 digitusjonfred
  • Score: 6

11:25pm Mon 1 Sep 14

owd nick says...

jimluftas wrote:
steralc wrote:
That's brilliant
We're doomed
Doomed I tell
Doomed
Meek.
Think you meant Reek....
[quote][p][bold]jimluftas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steralc[/bold] wrote: That's brilliant We're doomed Doomed I tell Doomed[/p][/quote]Meek.[/p][/quote]Think you meant Reek.... owd nick
  • Score: 7

11:25pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Welsh Rover says...

Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision! Welsh Rover
  • Score: 23

11:27pm Mon 1 Sep 14

owd nick says...

digitusjonfred wrote:
this page is for opinions holmesy69
Suggest you look at his stats and the Boro' fans reactions on Twitter, they are incandescent and can't understand why he has been sent out on loan.
[quote][p][bold]digitusjonfred[/bold] wrote: this page is for opinions holmesy69[/p][/quote]Suggest you look at his stats and the Boro' fans reactions on Twitter, they are incandescent and can't understand why he has been sent out on loan. owd nick
  • Score: 15

11:34pm Mon 1 Sep 14

owd nick says...

Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
[quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though. owd nick
  • Score: 4

11:36pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Welsh Rover says...

owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;) Welsh Rover
  • Score: 13

11:40pm Mon 1 Sep 14

owd nick says...

Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
[quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play. owd nick
  • Score: 10

11:48pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Welsh Rover says...

owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.[/p][/quote]Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick? Welsh Rover
  • Score: 7

12:37am Tue 2 Sep 14

MxMave says...

Im actually impressed with these signings. I cant belive bowyer realised where we needed players, GK, CB and CM. The only other position left to fill is at right back, we need a player with pace to get down the wing when we attack, lowey doesnt have that in his game.

As for the quality if signings, its rovers and weve captured some young players, even if only 1 turns out good, its 1 good player better than we have now.
Im actually impressed with these signings. I cant belive bowyer realised where we needed players, GK, CB and CM. The only other position left to fill is at right back, we need a player with pace to get down the wing when we attack, lowey doesnt have that in his game. As for the quality if signings, its rovers and weve captured some young players, even if only 1 turns out good, its 1 good player better than we have now. MxMave
  • Score: 17

12:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Don't worry about team selection, formations and tactics Boys GB will baffle you all.
Don't worry about team selection, formations and tactics Boys GB will baffle you all. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: -5

1:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

reiko082 says...

Somebody slap Michael Keane in the face.
Somebody slap Michael Keane in the face. reiko082
  • Score: 17

2:46am Tue 2 Sep 14

Garylla says...

reiko082 wrote:
Somebody slap Michael Keane in the face.
He's like a spurned lover who goes out with your worst enemy because you chose someone better. We signed Duffy instead of Keane so he went off to be a dingle. Sad for him...he's useless anyway and gone backwards after leaving the mighty Rovers. COYB
[quote][p][bold]reiko082[/bold] wrote: Somebody slap Michael Keane in the face.[/p][/quote]He's like a spurned lover who goes out with your worst enemy because you chose someone better. We signed Duffy instead of Keane so he went off to be a dingle. Sad for him...he's useless anyway and gone backwards after leaving the mighty Rovers. COYB Garylla
  • Score: 5

2:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

Garylla says...

I hope Duffy's not a troublemaking IRA sympathizer and Tunnicliffe improves his attitude. Check them out on google. It's up to GB to integrate them into the squad. We have to get promotion this season so if we're not top 6 by New Year Bowyer will go in January. Sort it out Gaz.
I hope Duffy's not a troublemaking IRA sympathizer and Tunnicliffe improves his attitude. Check them out on google. It's up to GB to integrate them into the squad. We have to get promotion this season so if we're not top 6 by New Year Bowyer will go in January. Sort it out Gaz. Garylla
  • Score: -12

2:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

Garylla says...

reiko082 wrote:
Somebody slap Michael Keane in the face.
He's like a spurned lover who goes out with your worst enemy because you chose someone better. We signed Duffy instead of Keane so he went off to be a dingle. Sad for him...he's useless anyway and gone backwards after leaving the mighty Rovers. COYB
[quote][p][bold]reiko082[/bold] wrote: Somebody slap Michael Keane in the face.[/p][/quote]He's like a spurned lover who goes out with your worst enemy because you chose someone better. We signed Duffy instead of Keane so he went off to be a dingle. Sad for him...he's useless anyway and gone backwards after leaving the mighty Rovers. COYB Garylla
  • Score: -3

7:54am Tue 2 Sep 14

greenscreener says...

Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player.

Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season.

A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did.

Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back.

Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs.

COYB
Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player. Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season. A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did. Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back. Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs. COYB greenscreener
  • Score: 13

7:59am Tue 2 Sep 14

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  • Score: -10

8:16am Tue 2 Sep 14

greenscreener says...

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NURSE, he's slipped out of his restraints again !
. . NURSE, he's slipped out of his restraints again ! greenscreener
  • Score: 7

8:17am Tue 2 Sep 14

Tatts says...

Think I would consider putting Steele straight into the team.
Think I would consider putting Steele straight into the team. Tatts
  • Score: 6

8:17am Tue 2 Sep 14

GAZHAY says...

At last a goalie who can come out for crosses and dominate his box. Will Bowyer drop Robinson for Steele??? I doubt it.
Also not sure about Tunnicliffe but can't see him playing either, he won't drop Evans or Cariney so not sure how he fits in. Lets not say these are for backup as we need more than backup. Lets see what happens.
At last a goalie who can come out for crosses and dominate his box. Will Bowyer drop Robinson for Steele??? I doubt it. Also not sure about Tunnicliffe but can't see him playing either, he won't drop Evans or Cariney so not sure how he fits in. Lets not say these are for backup as we need more than backup. Lets see what happens. GAZHAY
  • Score: 3

8:22am Tue 2 Sep 14

kitchener2 says...

holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
[quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four. kitchener2
  • Score: 1

8:30am Tue 2 Sep 14

bburnrover says...

Well we definately needed a CB and DM so GB has done the correct thing on a shoestring - well done!.I hope the signings both come good and the team stops conceding goals.
Well we definately needed a CB and DM so GB has done the correct thing on a shoestring - well done!.I hope the signings both come good and the team stops conceding goals. bburnrover
  • Score: 6

8:38am Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?
Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out;

His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes.

If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for.

You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)
[quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.[/p][/quote]Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?[/p][/quote]Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out; His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes. If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for. You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-) owd nick
  • Score: 5

8:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

kitchener2 wrote:
holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
"Always look on the bright side of life.., di dum, di dum, di dum".
[quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.[/p][/quote]"Always look on the bright side of life.., di dum, di dum, di dum". owd nick
  • Score: 4

8:43am Tue 2 Sep 14

greenscreener says...

kitchener2 wrote:
holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.
[quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.[/p][/quote]Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over. greenscreener
  • Score: 7

8:49am Tue 2 Sep 14

themaltaman says...

These signings aren't the problem, firstly he probably won't play them , apart from Duffy,secondly it's his tactics that are wrong. !
These signings aren't the problem, firstly he probably won't play them , apart from Duffy,secondly it's his tactics that are wrong. ! themaltaman
  • Score: -1

8:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?
Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out;

His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes.

If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for.

You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)
Impressive attention to detail there Nick, encouraging vibes.

Despite my earlier thoughts on completing the squad there is another loan window yet so Still a chance to tune it, and I think, although you may know better, that anyone loaned to the end of the season is allowed to stay to the end of the loan.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.[/p][/quote]Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?[/p][/quote]Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out; His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes. If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for. You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)[/p][/quote]Impressive attention to detail there Nick, encouraging vibes. Despite my earlier thoughts on completing the squad there is another loan window yet so Still a chance to tune it, and I think, although you may know better, that anyone loaned to the end of the season is allowed to stay to the end of the loan. greenscreener
  • Score: 4

8:58am Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player.

Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season.

A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did.

Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back.

Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs.

COYB
Good post.

Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine.

Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here.

While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do?

No brainer.

On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player. Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season. A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did. Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back. Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs. COYB[/p][/quote]Good post. Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine. Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here. While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do? No brainer. On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed. owd nick
  • Score: 4

9:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

bring back the good old days says...

Markj87 wrote:
Think its a great days work.
Needed a back up for robbo as I didnt trust kean/eastwood
Needed another midfielder to kick willimson out of team and defence well we all knew that was needed and duffy was in team of season in championship last year. Very happy.
Now up to GB to pick right players and be more positive with tactics.
And there's the rub.
Just maybe the ingredients are now there, and given more luck with injuries from here on in, it is now up to GB to step up and get the blend right.
Can he do it? I am still not sure, from what I have seen so far.

As said many times now I really hope he comes good, as I see no other alternative.
[quote][p][bold]Markj87[/bold] wrote: Think its a great days work. Needed a back up for robbo as I didnt trust kean/eastwood Needed another midfielder to kick willimson out of team and defence well we all knew that was needed and duffy was in team of season in championship last year. Very happy. Now up to GB to pick right players and be more positive with tactics.[/p][/quote]And there's the rub. Just maybe the ingredients are now there, and given more luck with injuries from here on in, it is now up to GB to step up and get the blend right. Can he do it? I am still not sure, from what I have seen so far. As said many times now I really hope he comes good, as I see no other alternative. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 3

9:13am Tue 2 Sep 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

I think like GS and ON etc. Good window and players where we need them
AA has made an rrrs of himself with the wot, more midfield comment
EXACTLY what we need this lad, if he performs to his reputation
Well done GB
I think like GS and ON etc. Good window and players where we need them AA has made an rrrs of himself with the wot, more midfield comment EXACTLY what we need this lad, if he performs to his reputation Well done GB Still a Wild Rover
  • Score: 5

9:15am Tue 2 Sep 14

GAZHAY says...

owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?
Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out;

His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes.

If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for.

You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)
And who will he drop to enable Tunnicliffe to play?
We must have 2 up front so this leave Evans/Cairney and then wide men of Marshall and Carney. Is he going to drop Evans?
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.[/p][/quote]Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?[/p][/quote]Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out; His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes. If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for. You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)[/p][/quote]And who will he drop to enable Tunnicliffe to play? We must have 2 up front so this leave Evans/Cairney and then wide men of Marshall and Carney. Is he going to drop Evans? GAZHAY
  • Score: 1

9:27am Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?
Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out;

His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes.

If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for.

You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)
Impressive attention to detail there Nick, encouraging vibes.

Despite my earlier thoughts on completing the squad there is another loan window yet so Still a chance to tune it, and I think, although you may know better, that anyone loaned to the end of the season is allowed to stay to the end of the loan.
I suspect that it usually depends on how the loan for each individual player is agreed between the two clubs, I don't think there is a pro forma apart from the player can't play against his parent club.

Then there is FFP to be taken into account.

http://www.financial
fairplay.co.uk/finan
cial-fair-play-expla
ined.php

Some think that all loaned players will have to return to their parent clubs but I can't find anything in this, or the main UEFA document that suggests this.

One thing the more rabid exponents of FFP against Rovers miss out on is one, very simple line;

"UEFA understand that because players are often on long contracts and clubs cannot reduce their spending quickly. For this reason the permitted Break Even deficit is set at a fairly high level."

For UEFA clubs that is 45 million euro, I can't find a pro rata statement from the FA.

So we just have to see how things pan out.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.[/p][/quote]Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?[/p][/quote]Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out; His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes. If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for. You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)[/p][/quote]Impressive attention to detail there Nick, encouraging vibes. Despite my earlier thoughts on completing the squad there is another loan window yet so Still a chance to tune it, and I think, although you may know better, that anyone loaned to the end of the season is allowed to stay to the end of the loan.[/p][/quote]I suspect that it usually depends on how the loan for each individual player is agreed between the two clubs, I don't think there is a pro forma apart from the player can't play against his parent club. Then there is FFP to be taken into account. http://www.financial fairplay.co.uk/finan cial-fair-play-expla ined.php Some think that all loaned players will have to return to their parent clubs but I can't find anything in this, or the main UEFA document that suggests this. One thing the more rabid exponents of FFP against Rovers miss out on is one, very simple line; "UEFA understand that because players are often on long contracts and clubs cannot reduce their spending quickly. For this reason the permitted Break Even deficit is set at a fairly high level." For UEFA clubs that is 45 million euro, I can't find a pro rata statement from the FA. So we just have to see how things pan out. owd nick
  • Score: 2

9:32am Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

GAZHAY wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451...

...still, good business considering we've got no money.

Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.
Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)
I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.
Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?
Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out;

His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes.

If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for.

You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)
And who will he drop to enable Tunnicliffe to play?
We must have 2 up front so this leave Evans/Cairney and then wide men of Marshall and Carney. Is he going to drop Evans?
Possibly, I don't know, but I would suspect that all 3 will get their chance pretty soon, Duffy straight away against Wigan and the other two from the bench.

Current fringe players are going to be pushed off the bench.

Nice problem to have for once.
[quote][p][bold]GAZHAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Or 3 - 5 - 2 with Lowe switching from RB to the holding position in front of the back three, will have to see Tunnicliffe plays first though.[/p][/quote]Possibly, although there's only one team pulling off the 352 so far this season... Shrewsbury Town! ;)[/p][/quote]I just think it would be better than the 4 - 0 - 6 formation we currently play.[/p][/quote]Can't see Conway as a wing-back, nor Marshall and/or King. It'd suit Olsson and Henley though. Decisions, decisions, eh? You happy with this window's additions, Nick?[/p][/quote]Depends on how Tunnicliffe pans out; His characteristics on whoscores.com show that he his good at holding the ball, blocking and tackling, doesn't dive into tackles and likes to play short passes. If that's the case he could be just what I was hoping for. You are right about the decisions, decisions bit though! :-)[/p][/quote]And who will he drop to enable Tunnicliffe to play? We must have 2 up front so this leave Evans/Cairney and then wide men of Marshall and Carney. Is he going to drop Evans?[/p][/quote]Possibly, I don't know, but I would suspect that all 3 will get their chance pretty soon, Duffy straight away against Wigan and the other two from the bench. Current fringe players are going to be pushed off the bench. Nice problem to have for once. owd nick
  • Score: 2

9:40am Tue 2 Sep 14

fitz808 says...

owd nick wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player.

Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season.

A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did.

Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back.

Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs.

COYB
Good post.

Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine.

Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here.

While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do?

No brainer.

On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.
anyone having a pop at keane is bonkers (which, given some of the posts on here sometimes, shouldn't surprise). why on earth would the player or his club not think getting regular PL experience would be more useful for his long term development. just because it is burnley doesn't make it a nonsense. personally, i couldn't give a poop who they sign. they are inconsequential to me unless we're actually playing them.
as for the signings, i haven't seen any of them play, so i won't try and predict formations and what i expect them to achieve. i would expect them to get some game time in the near future though. considering all of them have some defensive aspect to their game, it's there where we need to improve. the big question is... can you drop hanley and/or robbo...? they would be the logical choices. the rest of the team picks itself in a 4-4-2 i think.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player. Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season. A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did. Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back. Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs. COYB[/p][/quote]Good post. Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine. Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here. While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do? No brainer. On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.[/p][/quote]anyone having a pop at keane is bonkers (which, given some of the posts on here sometimes, shouldn't surprise). why on earth would the player or his club not think getting regular PL experience would be more useful for his long term development. just because it is burnley doesn't make it a nonsense. personally, i couldn't give a poop who they sign. they are inconsequential to me unless we're actually playing them. as for the signings, i haven't seen any of them play, so i won't try and predict formations and what i expect them to achieve. i would expect them to get some game time in the near future though. considering all of them have some defensive aspect to their game, it's there where we need to improve. the big question is... can you drop hanley and/or robbo...? they would be the logical choices. the rest of the team picks itself in a 4-4-2 i think. fitz808
  • Score: 5

9:55am Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

fitz808 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player.

Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season.

A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did.

Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back.

Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs.

COYB
Good post.

Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine.

Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here.

While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do?

No brainer.

On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.
anyone having a pop at keane is bonkers (which, given some of the posts on here sometimes, shouldn't surprise). why on earth would the player or his club not think getting regular PL experience would be more useful for his long term development. just because it is burnley doesn't make it a nonsense. personally, i couldn't give a poop who they sign. they are inconsequential to me unless we're actually playing them.
as for the signings, i haven't seen any of them play, so i won't try and predict formations and what i expect them to achieve. i would expect them to get some game time in the near future though. considering all of them have some defensive aspect to their game, it's there where we need to improve. the big question is... can you drop hanley and/or robbo...? they would be the logical choices. the rest of the team picks itself in a 4-4-2 i think.
I agree, think I said as much last night regarding Hanley, he is off the boil and despite Robbo's huge experience he hasn't been at his best for some time.

These signings put pressure on them to step up their game or loose their current automatic selection.

With the signing of Tunnicliffe that should be the end of Dunny (sadly) or perhaps Williamson, again it gives us options to keep players on their toes.
[quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player. Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season. A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did. Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back. Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs. COYB[/p][/quote]Good post. Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine. Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here. While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do? No brainer. On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.[/p][/quote]anyone having a pop at keane is bonkers (which, given some of the posts on here sometimes, shouldn't surprise). why on earth would the player or his club not think getting regular PL experience would be more useful for his long term development. just because it is burnley doesn't make it a nonsense. personally, i couldn't give a poop who they sign. they are inconsequential to me unless we're actually playing them. as for the signings, i haven't seen any of them play, so i won't try and predict formations and what i expect them to achieve. i would expect them to get some game time in the near future though. considering all of them have some defensive aspect to their game, it's there where we need to improve. the big question is... can you drop hanley and/or robbo...? they would be the logical choices. the rest of the team picks itself in a 4-4-2 i think.[/p][/quote]I agree, think I said as much last night regarding Hanley, he is off the boil and despite Robbo's huge experience he hasn't been at his best for some time. These signings put pressure on them to step up their game or loose their current automatic selection. With the signing of Tunnicliffe that should be the end of Dunny (sadly) or perhaps Williamson, again it gives us options to keep players on their toes. owd nick
  • Score: 6

11:19am Tue 2 Sep 14

juanbbien says...

themaltaman wrote:
These signings aren't the problem, firstly he probably won't play them , apart from Duffy,secondly it's his tactics that are wrong. !
I agree it's alright signing whoever but Bowyer now needs to make some bold decisions I'm afraid and start playing his best eleven,this means dropping certain players,the centre back positions for example is Hanley really the answer,what are other fans thoughts
[quote][p][bold]themaltaman[/bold] wrote: These signings aren't the problem, firstly he probably won't play them , apart from Duffy,secondly it's his tactics that are wrong. ![/p][/quote]I agree it's alright signing whoever but Bowyer now needs to make some bold decisions I'm afraid and start playing his best eleven,this means dropping certain players,the centre back positions for example is Hanley really the answer,what are other fans thoughts juanbbien
  • Score: 3

12:39pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Bigman501 says...

Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Agreed. I would drop Hanley from Centre Half, there is common denominator in a good number of our defensive lapses. HINT, HINT. I would like to see Duffy with Kilgallon to begin with. It sounds like this keeper might be tasty and could come in for Robbo, who looks like he ate alot of pies over the summer and is inept at coming out for crosses and saving shots, two very important parts of being a keeper.
I am happy with Bowyers signings again. Now all he needs to get right is the right players in the right positions, and stopping us from leaking an average of 2 goals per game.
[quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Agreed. I would drop Hanley from Centre Half, there is common denominator in a good number of our defensive lapses. HINT, HINT. I would like to see Duffy with Kilgallon to begin with. It sounds like this keeper might be tasty and could come in for Robbo, who looks like he ate alot of pies over the summer and is inept at coming out for crosses and saving shots, two very important parts of being a keeper. I am happy with Bowyers signings again. Now all he needs to get right is the right players in the right positions, and stopping us from leaking an average of 2 goals per game. Bigman501
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

juanbbien wrote:
themaltaman wrote:
These signings aren't the problem, firstly he probably won't play them , apart from Duffy,secondly it's his tactics that are wrong. !
I agree it's alright signing whoever but Bowyer now needs to make some bold decisions I'm afraid and start playing his best eleven,this means dropping certain players,the centre back positions for example is Hanley really the answer,what are other fans thoughts
Well, he might have a choice now!
Rome and all that....
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]themaltaman[/bold] wrote: These signings aren't the problem, firstly he probably won't play them , apart from Duffy,secondly it's his tactics that are wrong. ![/p][/quote]I agree it's alright signing whoever but Bowyer now needs to make some bold decisions I'm afraid and start playing his best eleven,this means dropping certain players,the centre back positions for example is Hanley really the answer,what are other fans thoughts[/p][/quote]Well, he might have a choice now! Rome and all that.... Still a Wild Rover
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Not_A_Loon_From_Pune says...

owd nick wrote:
fitz808 wrote:
owd nick wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player.

Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season.

A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did.

Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back.

Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs.

COYB
Good post.

Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine.

Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here.

While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do?

No brainer.

On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.
anyone having a pop at keane is bonkers (which, given some of the posts on here sometimes, shouldn't surprise). why on earth would the player or his club not think getting regular PL experience would be more useful for his long term development. just because it is burnley doesn't make it a nonsense. personally, i couldn't give a poop who they sign. they are inconsequential to me unless we're actually playing them.
as for the signings, i haven't seen any of them play, so i won't try and predict formations and what i expect them to achieve. i would expect them to get some game time in the near future though. considering all of them have some defensive aspect to their game, it's there where we need to improve. the big question is... can you drop hanley and/or robbo...? they would be the logical choices. the rest of the team picks itself in a 4-4-2 i think.
I agree, think I said as much last night regarding Hanley, he is off the boil and despite Robbo's huge experience he hasn't been at his best for some time.

These signings put pressure on them to step up their game or loose their current automatic selection.

With the signing of Tunnicliffe that should be the end of Dunny (sadly) or perhaps Williamson, again it gives us options to keep players on their toes.
At the moment Hanley seems to be an automatic choice no matter how badly he plays so some competition at CB is not unwelcome. Robbo is in the last year of his contract so it makes sense to look at a successor who might also play. Both Kean and Eastwood are liabilities in my view.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fitz808[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Agreeing with Nick and WR, I think GB has done well there, without a major song and dance or a big pot of money he has gone out and found what most have been asking for, a sound GK to challenge Robbo, a big CH, and a combative midfield player. Probably as good as we can expect under the circumstances and I would rather take younger players developed at top clubs than journeyman pros from lower leagues. Not so encouraging for our youngsters but with transfer embargo looming their time may come next season. A solid RB would have been nice but Lowe is settling in there and I think GB still believes Henley will come good, hopefully come back as Markus did. Don't agree with the comments from Garylla at all, why not give these lads a chance before trying to stir it up ? And If GB has us in the mix at New Year 7th or 8th could be fine. Your thoughts on Michael Keane do you no credit either, i would have been happy to have taken him back. Time for GB to do the work down at Brockhall now, this is the squad, plus any youngsters we have, that has to take us through the next 41 games, averaging 2 points a game should take us up, maybe 1.5 for the playoffs. COYB[/p][/quote]Good post. Every window GB adds a couple more pieces to the jigsaw, some work out, some don't, as long as we can hang onto the ones that work out we will be fine. Have to say though the almost hysterical reaction to Kean going to Burnley on here and on Twitter is way over the top, he is a Man U player who did a great job for us while he was on loan here. While personally I had hoped we could get him back that wasn't to be, it's his choice, given the chance to play in the Championship or the PL, even for Burnley, what would most do? No brainer. On the other side of the coin we have permanently signed Duffy, from Everton, I would always take a permanent option because with loan players you always have the risk that you are keeping them match fit only for them to go back to their parent club if needed.[/p][/quote]anyone having a pop at keane is bonkers (which, given some of the posts on here sometimes, shouldn't surprise). why on earth would the player or his club not think getting regular PL experience would be more useful for his long term development. just because it is burnley doesn't make it a nonsense. personally, i couldn't give a poop who they sign. they are inconsequential to me unless we're actually playing them. as for the signings, i haven't seen any of them play, so i won't try and predict formations and what i expect them to achieve. i would expect them to get some game time in the near future though. considering all of them have some defensive aspect to their game, it's there where we need to improve. the big question is... can you drop hanley and/or robbo...? they would be the logical choices. the rest of the team picks itself in a 4-4-2 i think.[/p][/quote]I agree, think I said as much last night regarding Hanley, he is off the boil and despite Robbo's huge experience he hasn't been at his best for some time. These signings put pressure on them to step up their game or loose their current automatic selection. With the signing of Tunnicliffe that should be the end of Dunny (sadly) or perhaps Williamson, again it gives us options to keep players on their toes.[/p][/quote]At the moment Hanley seems to be an automatic choice no matter how badly he plays so some competition at CB is not unwelcome. Robbo is in the last year of his contract so it makes sense to look at a successor who might also play. Both Kean and Eastwood are liabilities in my view. Not_A_Loon_From_Pune
  • Score: 3

12:56pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

Bigman501 wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Agreed. I would drop Hanley from Centre Half, there is common denominator in a good number of our defensive lapses. HINT, HINT. I would like to see Duffy with Kilgallon to begin with. It sounds like this keeper might be tasty and could come in for Robbo, who looks like he ate alot of pies over the summer and is inept at coming out for crosses and saving shots, two very important parts of being a keeper.
I am happy with Bowyers signings again. Now all he needs to get right is the right players in the right positions, and stopping us from leaking an average of 2 goals per game.
Ref to Robbo, he is actually looking fitter and about 20 lb lighter than last season. He has played really well and made some great saves so your criticism seems harsh and wide of the mark
I do think Hanley has had a couple of bad games though, but that may be due to not having a settled pairing yet this season
Have you actually seen them play this year?
[quote][p][bold]Bigman501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Agreed. I would drop Hanley from Centre Half, there is common denominator in a good number of our defensive lapses. HINT, HINT. I would like to see Duffy with Kilgallon to begin with. It sounds like this keeper might be tasty and could come in for Robbo, who looks like he ate alot of pies over the summer and is inept at coming out for crosses and saving shots, two very important parts of being a keeper. I am happy with Bowyers signings again. Now all he needs to get right is the right players in the right positions, and stopping us from leaking an average of 2 goals per game.[/p][/quote]Ref to Robbo, he is actually looking fitter and about 20 lb lighter than last season. He has played really well and made some great saves so your criticism seems harsh and wide of the mark I do think Hanley has had a couple of bad games though, but that may be due to not having a settled pairing yet this season Have you actually seen them play this year? Still a Wild Rover
  • Score: 6

5:02pm Tue 2 Sep 14

kitchener2 says...

greenscreener wrote:
kitchener2 wrote:
holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.
Yes I agree they were...however they aren't flocking back are they? We need to get the team galvanised and fighting for every goal and point, do you see that happening? If you do please explain....where?
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.[/p][/quote]Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree they were...however they aren't flocking back are they? We need to get the team galvanised and fighting for every goal and point, do you see that happening? If you do please explain....where? kitchener2
  • Score: 1

5:02pm Tue 2 Sep 14

owd nick says...

Still a Wild Rover wrote:
Bigman501 wrote:
Welsh Rover wrote:
Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision!
Agreed. I would drop Hanley from Centre Half, there is common denominator in a good number of our defensive lapses. HINT, HINT. I would like to see Duffy with Kilgallon to begin with. It sounds like this keeper might be tasty and could come in for Robbo, who looks like he ate alot of pies over the summer and is inept at coming out for crosses and saving shots, two very important parts of being a keeper.
I am happy with Bowyers signings again. Now all he needs to get right is the right players in the right positions, and stopping us from leaking an average of 2 goals per game.
Ref to Robbo, he is actually looking fitter and about 20 lb lighter than last season. He has played really well and made some great saves so your criticism seems harsh and wide of the mark
I do think Hanley has had a couple of bad games though, but that may be due to not having a settled pairing yet this season
Have you actually seen them play this year?
Don't think he has lol.

Robbo is ok but he is past his best and lets not forget he is still on a PL standard contract.

I keep repeating myself, the defence is often isolated because we don't really have a defensive midfielder that covers that 30yd hole that often appears in front of it, Hanley and co can't stem the tide when they are being forced back onto the keeper time and again.

We need to go back to basics and learn to keep clean sheets again, and that means defending from the front and most importantly, in midfield.
[quote][p][bold]Still a Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bigman501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welsh Rover[/bold] wrote: Three very good signings, in my opinion. No disrespect to Kean and Eastwood but in Steele we have someone who will genuinely challenge Robinson for the no.1 jersey. Duffy should give the other centre-halves something to think about - personally I'd partner him with Kilgallon or Baptiste - and his height should give us an extra edge at set-pieces. Tunnicliffe is a very good addition, although I fear we'll either have to drop Evans, switch Cairney back out wide-right or play 451... ...still, good business considering we've got no money. Dewch Ar Chi Gleision![/p][/quote]Agreed. I would drop Hanley from Centre Half, there is common denominator in a good number of our defensive lapses. HINT, HINT. I would like to see Duffy with Kilgallon to begin with. It sounds like this keeper might be tasty and could come in for Robbo, who looks like he ate alot of pies over the summer and is inept at coming out for crosses and saving shots, two very important parts of being a keeper. I am happy with Bowyers signings again. Now all he needs to get right is the right players in the right positions, and stopping us from leaking an average of 2 goals per game.[/p][/quote]Ref to Robbo, he is actually looking fitter and about 20 lb lighter than last season. He has played really well and made some great saves so your criticism seems harsh and wide of the mark I do think Hanley has had a couple of bad games though, but that may be due to not having a settled pairing yet this season Have you actually seen them play this year?[/p][/quote]Don't think he has lol. Robbo is ok but he is past his best and lets not forget he is still on a PL standard contract. I keep repeating myself, the defence is often isolated because we don't really have a defensive midfielder that covers that 30yd hole that often appears in front of it, Hanley and co can't stem the tide when they are being forced back onto the keeper time and again. We need to go back to basics and learn to keep clean sheets again, and that means defending from the front and most importantly, in midfield. owd nick
  • Score: 2

5:05pm Tue 2 Sep 14

kitchener2 says...

owd nick wrote:
kitchener2 wrote:
holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
"Always look on the bright side of life.., di dum, di dum, di dum".
Keep singing that tune owd fella.....let's see if your still singing at the end of this season! I hope you are but I for one aren't confident you will be.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.[/p][/quote]"Always look on the bright side of life.., di dum, di dum, di dum".[/p][/quote]Keep singing that tune owd fella.....let's see if your still singing at the end of this season! I hope you are but I for one aren't confident you will be. kitchener2
  • Score: -1

10:38pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Angry From Accrington says...

Still a Wild Rover wrote:
I think like GS and ON etc. Good window and players where we need them
AA has made an rrrs of himself with the wot, more midfield comment
EXACTLY what we need this lad, if he performs to his reputation
Well done GB
Presumably I am AA but I do not recognise the " wot, more midfield comment"
A midfielder is exactly what we need to replace Williamson. You castigate me for criticising GB and now you castigate me for applauding him.
I think you are just picking on me and I am getting a bit upset about it.
If you say that these are three good signings then they must be three good signings. I have absolute confidence in your wise judgement and knowledge of these players.
[quote][p][bold]Still a Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: I think like GS and ON etc. Good window and players where we need them AA has made an rrrs of himself with the wot, more midfield comment EXACTLY what we need this lad, if he performs to his reputation Well done GB[/p][/quote]Presumably I am AA but I do not recognise the " wot, more midfield comment" A midfielder is exactly what we need to replace Williamson. You castigate me for criticising GB and now you castigate me for applauding him. I think you are just picking on me and I am getting a bit upset about it. If you say that these are three good signings then they must be three good signings. I have absolute confidence in your wise judgement and knowledge of these players. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -1

12:22am Wed 3 Sep 14

owd nick says...

kitchener2 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
kitchener2 wrote:
holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.
Yes I agree they were...however they aren't flocking back are they? We need to get the team galvanised and fighting for every goal and point, do you see that happening? If you do please explain....where?
Quite right they aren't flocking back.

Many reasons though when you think about it.

Venky's being the obvious one.

Then you have the Lardarse Luvvies who were mortified when he engineered his sacking, mostly BRAG members.

Then you have the fair weather supporters who only became interested in the club when they played in the PL.

But it's easier to whinge and whine of a local provincial website than get behind the club you profess to support.

It's a simple fact as long as I have been a Rovers fan that the support has fluctuated dependent on how successful we have been, 8 to 10,000 when we were bottom of the 3rd division, 12 to 13,000 when we were in the 2nd division and so on.

It's nothing new, I have been to Notts County on a cold winters night in the lower leagues when there were so few Rovers fans there it really did look like we had come in a taxi, it was my turn to drive and there were 4 of us in the car, and we got stuffed.

Never stopped me supporting my club, only death stopped one of the other 3.

Ok the faces have changed a bit but the core support of around 13,000 is still there and that won't increase again unless we get promoted.

Even in the PL when one of the lesser teams came to Ewood we rarely got more than 20 to 22,000, and that included visiting fans.

So let's not knock the real fans who continue to support the club through thick and thin, mostly thin I have to admit, but it's so much easier being a fair weather fan isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.[/p][/quote]Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree they were...however they aren't flocking back are they? We need to get the team galvanised and fighting for every goal and point, do you see that happening? If you do please explain....where?[/p][/quote]Quite right they aren't flocking back. Many reasons though when you think about it. Venky's being the obvious one. Then you have the Lardarse Luvvies who were mortified when he engineered his sacking, mostly BRAG members. Then you have the fair weather supporters who only became interested in the club when they played in the PL. But it's easier to whinge and whine of a local provincial website than get behind the club you profess to support. It's a simple fact as long as I have been a Rovers fan that the support has fluctuated dependent on how successful we have been, 8 to 10,000 when we were bottom of the 3rd division, 12 to 13,000 when we were in the 2nd division and so on. It's nothing new, I have been to Notts County on a cold winters night in the lower leagues when there were so few Rovers fans there it really did look like we had come in a taxi, it was my turn to drive and there were 4 of us in the car, and we got stuffed. Never stopped me supporting my club, only death stopped one of the other 3. Ok the faces have changed a bit but the core support of around 13,000 is still there and that won't increase again unless we get promoted. Even in the PL when one of the lesser teams came to Ewood we rarely got more than 20 to 22,000, and that included visiting fans. So let's not knock the real fans who continue to support the club through thick and thin, mostly thin I have to admit, but it's so much easier being a fair weather fan isn't it? owd nick
  • Score: 0

12:39am Wed 3 Sep 14

noddy57 says...

We will give Gary time to Jell this team and play it by ear. but if we keep on dropping points and leaking too many goals it might get to late to rectify things. I just hope these new faces have the desired effect.C O Y B.
We will give Gary time to Jell this team and play it by ear. but if we keep on dropping points and leaking too many goals it might get to late to rectify things. I just hope these new faces have the desired effect.C O Y B. noddy57
  • Score: 0

7:39am Wed 3 Sep 14

Angry From Accrington says...

owd nick wrote:
kitchener2 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
kitchener2 wrote:
holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.
Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.
Yes I agree they were...however they aren't flocking back are they? We need to get the team galvanised and fighting for every goal and point, do you see that happening? If you do please explain....where?
Quite right they aren't flocking back.

Many reasons though when you think about it.

Venky's being the obvious one.

Then you have the Lardarse Luvvies who were mortified when he engineered his sacking, mostly BRAG members.

Then you have the fair weather supporters who only became interested in the club when they played in the PL.

But it's easier to whinge and whine of a local provincial website than get behind the club you profess to support.

It's a simple fact as long as I have been a Rovers fan that the support has fluctuated dependent on how successful we have been, 8 to 10,000 when we were bottom of the 3rd division, 12 to 13,000 when we were in the 2nd division and so on.

It's nothing new, I have been to Notts County on a cold winters night in the lower leagues when there were so few Rovers fans there it really did look like we had come in a taxi, it was my turn to drive and there were 4 of us in the car, and we got stuffed.

Never stopped me supporting my club, only death stopped one of the other 3.

Ok the faces have changed a bit but the core support of around 13,000 is still there and that won't increase again unless we get promoted.

Even in the PL when one of the lesser teams came to Ewood we rarely got more than 20 to 22,000, and that included visiting fans.

So let's not knock the real fans who continue to support the club through thick and thin, mostly thin I have to admit, but it's so much easier being a fair weather fan isn't it?
Venkys is merely a convenient excuse for most of these so called supporters. We would still have been relegated under the Walker Trust regime and the glitterballs would have stayed away,citing some other spurious excuse to disguise the fact that they are only interested in the Premiership.
Three times in my career I have lived over 150 miles away and still retained my season ticket .
I have earned the right to criticise the manager, the players, the fans and the owners. I have earned the right to be Angry.......from Accrington.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kitchener2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed....thousands have stopped going! Not everyone's happy with Mr. Valium as manager. If he doesn't become much more savvy and astute regarding tactics and team selection, we'll more than likely be in the bottom four by Christmas, not the top four.[/p][/quote]Actually the thousands were lost before Bowyer took over.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree they were...however they aren't flocking back are they? We need to get the team galvanised and fighting for every goal and point, do you see that happening? If you do please explain....where?[/p][/quote]Quite right they aren't flocking back. Many reasons though when you think about it. Venky's being the obvious one. Then you have the Lardarse Luvvies who were mortified when he engineered his sacking, mostly BRAG members. Then you have the fair weather supporters who only became interested in the club when they played in the PL. But it's easier to whinge and whine of a local provincial website than get behind the club you profess to support. It's a simple fact as long as I have been a Rovers fan that the support has fluctuated dependent on how successful we have been, 8 to 10,000 when we were bottom of the 3rd division, 12 to 13,000 when we were in the 2nd division and so on. It's nothing new, I have been to Notts County on a cold winters night in the lower leagues when there were so few Rovers fans there it really did look like we had come in a taxi, it was my turn to drive and there were 4 of us in the car, and we got stuffed. Never stopped me supporting my club, only death stopped one of the other 3. Ok the faces have changed a bit but the core support of around 13,000 is still there and that won't increase again unless we get promoted. Even in the PL when one of the lesser teams came to Ewood we rarely got more than 20 to 22,000, and that included visiting fans. So let's not knock the real fans who continue to support the club through thick and thin, mostly thin I have to admit, but it's so much easier being a fair weather fan isn't it?[/p][/quote]Venkys is merely a convenient excuse for most of these so called supporters. We would still have been relegated under the Walker Trust regime and the glitterballs would have stayed away,citing some other spurious excuse to disguise the fact that they are only interested in the Premiership. Three times in my career I have lived over 150 miles away and still retained my season ticket . I have earned the right to criticise the manager, the players, the fans and the owners. I have earned the right to be Angry.......from Accrington. Angry From Accrington
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7:44am Wed 3 Sep 14

Angry From Accrington says...

holmesy69 wrote:
Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb
What a stupid comment. Would you rather have armchair supporters applauding ever GB decision or genuine fans voicing genuine concerns?
[quote][p][bold]holmesy69[/bold] wrote: Stop moaning if you don't like it stop going coyb[/p][/quote]What a stupid comment. Would you rather have armchair supporters applauding ever GB decision or genuine fans voicing genuine concerns? Angry From Accrington
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