Police warning after firms prosecuted over cannabis (From Blackburn Citizen)

"There has been a sharp rise in the potency of cannabis over recent years with emerging links to mental health issues, crime and violent behaviour for users"

Rubbish! - cannabis is no more potent today as it was in 1960 in fact it is weaker. The use of cannabis has increased but the number of cases of mental illness has dropped (see Keele University's study quietly suppressed by the press and government) - if this was the case, why is Holland not full of raving loonies?
Alcohol is the biggest cause of problems among the youth of today, that is not illlegal is it yet it causes far less harm than cannabis, a safe, non-addictive herb that has been used for centuries. This so-called Skunk is simply a myth perpetrated by the press to brainwash the general public into demonising something that has amazing health benefits. It is one of the best painkillers for neuropatic pain, MS tremors etc. and even alleviates certain mental disorders without side effects - put bluntly, it is probably the best herbal medicinal product and it is completely natural. That is mostly why it is a controlled substance, because it has the potential to put some very big companies out of business. I totally disagree with the criminal element's involvement but if it was freely available (and taxed) the criminals would leave it alone and the government could settle down and rake in some serious tax money. Stop being like sheep and find out for yourselves, the information is out there, go and look for it!

Ha the secret word is pain-main, would you beleive it!

Sorry, typo above and no edit facility - Alcohol causes MORE harm than cannabis ever will.

I don't beleive it - secret word this time is pass-leaf is this an omen?

Earlier addition 'High street drug sales warning'.I am finally going to have my say.Facts:Drugs where never sold nor where 'herbal highs'.nor was the equipment intended for growing drugs.'Agent Provacator' look it up.An agent or police officer trained to incite a person into a crime that would not have otherwise been commited basically.This was never about a crime,it was about how much money they could legally steal. This is a legal buisness that pays Tax,Vat and all the usual that buisnesses have to pay.The reason for the guilty plee in the end was down to damage limitation.Its called 'plee Bargain'.It was either £25,000 for guilty plee or £500,000 for not guilty plee.What would you have done?Lose everything you worked for your all life?£25,000 was all in the companys account books, hardly 'criminal gains'.My family has been destroyed. My children have been taunted from other kids,as children can be very cruel. It has been 16 months of emotional pure destruction and devastation.Caught in a political web.Justice? I think not.

This from 2008......in the appeal court judgment, published last week, Lord Phillips, the lord chief justice, ruled that the offences of conspiracy to aid and abet and counsel the production of cannabis were "unknown to law" and had to be quashed. "There can be no conviction for aiding and abetting, counselling or procuring, unless the offence is shown to have occurred," he said. "It is not an offence to attempt to aid and abet, counsel or procure the commission of an offence."
Source
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/society/2008/j
ul/14/drugsandalcoho
l.law

I suppose the agent provocateur was given instructuions on how to grow then? Did you enlist the services of Release? They may still be able to help but given the guilty plea, probably not.

ILoveMyKids wrote:
Earlier addition 'High street drug sales warning'.I am finally going to have my say.Facts:Drugs where never sold nor where 'herbal highs'.nor was the equipment intended for growing drugs.'Agent Provacator' look it up.An agent or police officer trained to incite a person into a crime that would not have otherwise been commited basically.This was never about a crime,it was about how much money they could legally steal. This is a legal buisness that pays Tax,Vat and all the usual that buisnesses have to pay.The reason for the guilty plee in the end was down to damage limitation.Its called 'plee Bargain'.It was either £25,000 for guilty plee or £500,000 for not guilty plee.What would you have done?Lose everything you worked for your all life?£25,000 was all in the companys account books, hardly 'criminal gains'.My family has been destroyed. My children have been taunted from other kids,as children can be very cruel. It has been 16 months of emotional pure destruction and devastation.Caught in a political web.Justice? I think not.

Good, you tried to be a smartar5e and were rightly caught out. The bit re Plea bargain is nonsense.... First off you would have to have been found guilty and secondly you are probably quoting the max sentance which never happen.

What they don't realise, of course, is that the majority do not grow weed from seeds anyway - they use cuttings instead, which means you will definitely end up with a female plant.

Only a matter of time before we will see the US-style banning of 'drugs paraphanalia' like pipes and rizla papers, too.

CapitaBackHander wrote:

ILoveMyKids wrote: Earlier addition 'High street drug sales warning'.I am finally going to have my say.Facts:Drugs where never sold nor where 'herbal highs'.nor was the equipment intended for growing drugs.'Agent Provacator' look it up.An agent or police officer trained to incite a person into a crime that would not have otherwise been commited basically.This was never about a crime,it was about how much money they could legally steal. This is a legal buisness that pays Tax,Vat and all the usual that buisnesses have to pay.The reason for the guilty plee in the end was down to damage limitation.Its called 'plee Bargain'.It was either £25,000 for guilty plee or £500,000 for not guilty plee.What would you have done?Lose everything you worked for your all life?£25,000 was all in the companys account books, hardly 'criminal gains'.My family has been destroyed. My children have been taunted from other kids,as children can be very cruel. It has been 16 months of emotional pure destruction and devastation.Caught in a political web.Justice? I think not.

Good, you tried to be a smartar5e and were rightly caught out. The bit re Plea bargain is nonsense.... First off you would have to have been found guilty and secondly you are probably quoting the max sentance which never happen.

clearly you do not know what your talking about yet another government brain washed sheep 'plea bargain: in criminal procedure, a negotiation between the defendant and his attorney on one side and the prosecutor on the other, in which the defendant agrees to plead "guilty" or "no contest" to some crimes, in return for reduction of the severity of the charges, dismissal of some of the charges, the prosecutor's willingness to recommend a particular sentence, or some other benefit to the defendant. whos the smartar5e now! the shop keeper was incited into commiting the crime in the first place which is entrapment which is illegal therefore illegal charges were brought!

JohnR1 wrote:
This from 2008......in the appeal court judgment, published last week, Lord Phillips, the lord chief justice, ruled that the offences of conspiracy to aid and abet and counsel the production of cannabis were "unknown to law" and had to be quashed. "There can be no conviction for aiding and abetting, counselling or procuring, unless the offence is shown to have occurred," he said. "It is not an offence to attempt to aid and abet, counsel or procure the commission of an offence." Source http://www.guardian. co.uk/society/2008/j ul/14/drugsandalcoho l.law I suppose the agent provocateur was given instructuions on how to grow then? Did you enlist the services of Release? They may still be able to help but given the guilty plea, probably not.

Hi John, This was already mentioned and the judge dismissed it. The same Judge dealt with all the Lancashire shops that where raided.The police were already aware of what Lord Phillips said,so instead of charging 'conspiracy to aid and abet and counsel the production of cannabis,'They charged with 'encitment to produce cannabis'. The agent provocateur never mentioned cannabis and neither did my partner. It was classed as you knew what he was talking about on all the occasions he entered your shop?? 'An unspoken word'?? if that makes sense!The term ' Im growing some sh*t', means you know what hes growing?!

nath_mclauchlan wrote:

CapitaBackHander wrote:

ILoveMyKids wrote: Earlier addition 'High street drug sales warning'.I am finally going to have my say.Facts:Drugs where never sold nor where 'herbal highs'.nor was the equipment intended for growing drugs.'Agent Provacator' look it up.An agent or police officer trained to incite a person into a crime that would not have otherwise been commited basically.This was never about a crime,it was about how much money they could legally steal. This is a legal buisness that pays Tax,Vat and all the usual that buisnesses have to pay.The reason for the guilty plee in the end was down to damage limitation.Its called 'plee Bargain'.It was either £25,000 for guilty plee or £500,000 for not guilty plee.What would you have done?Lose everything you worked for your all life?£25,000 was all in the companys account books, hardly 'criminal gains'.My family has been destroyed. My children have been taunted from other kids,as children can be very cruel. It has been 16 months of emotional pure destruction and devastation.Caught in a political web.Justice? I think not.

Good, you tried to be a smartar5e and were rightly caught out. The bit re Plea bargain is nonsense.... First off you would have to have been found guilty and secondly you are probably quoting the max sentance which never happen.

clearly you do not know what your talking about yet another government brain washed sheep 'plea bargain: in criminal procedure, a negotiation between the defendant and his attorney on one side and the prosecutor on the other, in which the defendant agrees to plead "guilty" or "no contest" to some crimes, in return for reduction of the severity of the charges, dismissal of some of the charges, the prosecutor's willingness to recommend a particular sentence, or some other benefit to the defendant. whos the smartar5e now! the shop keeper was incited into commiting the crime in the first place which is entrapment which is illegal therefore illegal charges were brought!

Hi Nathan,The judge also dismissed the argument of entrapment too!I believe thats exactly what it was.No arguments were accepted, as I said previously, this was very political.'A political web'.