Blackburn man's call to end BB postcode insurance ‘victimisation’

Blackburn Citizen: FAIR DEAL Rob Daye FAIR DEAL Rob Daye

A CAMPAIGN has been set up to reduce high insurance premiums in BB postcode areas caused by fake insurance claims.

In just four days more than 1,500 people have joined a group set up on Facebook protesting about high insurance costs.

The campaign has received the backing of Blackburn MP Jack Straw , who has spearheaded a campaign to overhaul the industry, due to rocketing premium costs.

He is also concerned about companies selling clients’ details to personal injury firms.

Rob Daye, 38, from Galligreaves, Blackburn, who set up the group, has also launched an epetition in the hope of getting get 100,000 signatures in order to get the issue brought up in the House of Commons.

Mr Straw said: “The campaign is a fantastic idea, I give it my full backing. This is something that I have been pusing for the past 14 months and will continue to do so.

“I think that it is outrageous that people can be made to pay more for their insurence based on where they live rather than the risk they pose to others as a driver.

“It’s like paying more for health insurance because you live next door to someone with cancer.

“I am going to see an insurance company about a case of someone in the BB1 area whose insurance premium increased by £700 because she moved from one part of the postcode to another part..”

Mr Daye said: “I see it as victimisation, that people in BB postcode areas are paying for the wrong doing of a few people who scam the system.

““I personally have seen my insurance cost rise from £600 to £930 in just three years for a peugeot 106 which only costs about £400.”

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12:51pm Thu 30 Aug 12

woolywords says...

I's just an example of rip-off Britain where anything related to the financial sector is wholly unregulated by act of law and is just an excuse for printing money at others expense.

I buy the bare minimum of cover that the law requires in 3rd party cover.
I's just an example of rip-off Britain where anything related to the financial sector is wholly unregulated by act of law and is just an excuse for printing money at others expense. I buy the bare minimum of cover that the law requires in 3rd party cover. woolywords

1:13pm Thu 30 Aug 12

peely says...

We all know why insurance premiums have gone up in Blackburn but nobody dare come out in public and tell it as it is ! That's the P C society we,ve now got..
We all know why insurance premiums have gone up in Blackburn but nobody dare come out in public and tell it as it is ! That's the P C society we,ve now got.. peely

1:18pm Thu 30 Aug 12

sen c ble says...

Commenting wrote:
This is the price we all have pay as a result of the crooked behaviour of some sections of the Asian heritage community
Yes it is the price we all at BB have to pay, but not justifiable!
[quote][p][bold]Commenting[/bold] wrote: This is the price we all have pay as a result of the crooked behaviour of some sections of the Asian heritage community[/p][/quote]Yes it is the price we all at BB have to pay, but not justifiable! sen c ble

1:43pm Thu 30 Aug 12

mavrick says...

The whole insurance industry is in need of a complete overhaul. Their weasel worded policies are a rip off. I don't just mean car insurance. I find the some of the questions asked are very intrusive and then they sell all your details on.
we need to sort them out.
The whole insurance industry is in need of a complete overhaul. Their weasel worded policies are a rip off. I don't just mean car insurance. I find the some of the questions asked are very intrusive and then they sell all your details on. we need to sort them out. mavrick

1:47pm Thu 30 Aug 12

barryinthailand says...

woolywords wrote:
I's just an example of rip-off Britain where anything related to the financial sector is wholly unregulated by act of law and is just an excuse for printing money at others expense.

I buy the bare minimum of cover that the law requires in 3rd party cover.
Which is fine but not an option for some people. As far as JS saying its like living next door to someone with cancer I disagree, unfortunately as far as insurance companies are concerned it would be more akin to lliving in a leper colony.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: I's just an example of rip-off Britain where anything related to the financial sector is wholly unregulated by act of law and is just an excuse for printing money at others expense. I buy the bare minimum of cover that the law requires in 3rd party cover.[/p][/quote]Which is fine but not an option for some people. As far as JS saying its like living next door to someone with cancer I disagree, unfortunately as far as insurance companies are concerned it would be more akin to lliving in a leper colony. barryinthailand

2:29pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Black Car Guy. says...

Commenting wrote:
This is the price we all have pay as a result of the crooked behaviour of some sections of the Asian heritage community
Yes they slam on in front of you for no apparent reason. Well apart from you to run in the back of them, so they can claim for them and there lots of occupants. BB1 is one of the highest in the country.
[quote][p][bold]Commenting[/bold] wrote: This is the price we all have pay as a result of the crooked behaviour of some sections of the Asian heritage community[/p][/quote]Yes they slam on in front of you for no apparent reason. Well apart from you to run in the back of them, so they can claim for them and there lots of occupants. BB1 is one of the highest in the country. Black Car Guy.

2:44pm Thu 30 Aug 12

RUinsane says...

The only thing that will happen is everyone elses insurance will be brought up to BB levels, you won't see it drop off. More money to be made from the cornered saps.
The only thing that will happen is everyone elses insurance will be brought up to BB levels, you won't see it drop off. More money to be made from the cornered saps. RUinsane

3:46pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Sajdin says...

I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ! Sajdin

3:57pm Thu 30 Aug 12

tntoast says...

Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
i wouldn't rely on that ingformation doing any thing for i sent photographic evidence of the women driver (who turned into a man when the claim came through )the fact none of the kids were strapped in their car seats did it do any good no they just pay out cause its cheaper to charge us more than fight the case
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]i wouldn't rely on that ingformation doing any thing for i sent photographic evidence of the women driver (who turned into a man when the claim came through )the fact none of the kids were strapped in their car seats did it do any good no they just pay out cause its cheaper to charge us more than fight the case tntoast

4:10pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Izanears says...

BB9 does not fare any better when it comes to high premiums. One insurance company I tried wasn't interested when I gave him the post code! One roundabout in Pendle is rated the third in the country for scam accidents. About two hundred yards from it is an accident claim office. I will leave it to your imagination as to who owns it.
BB9 does not fare any better when it comes to high premiums. One insurance company I tried wasn't interested when I gave him the post code! One roundabout in Pendle is rated the third in the country for scam accidents. About two hundred yards from it is an accident claim office. I will leave it to your imagination as to who owns it. Izanears

4:11pm Thu 30 Aug 12

kempy says...

How do I get to sign the petion.I live in bb1.this guy is great to go to the paper brilliant.Hope we can get some refunds aswel!!
How do I get to sign the petion.I live in bb1.this guy is great to go to the paper brilliant.Hope we can get some refunds aswel!! kempy

4:40pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Your ferret stinks says...

Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.
Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance. Your ferret stinks

4:42pm Thu 30 Aug 12

darwenTower says...

Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim. darwenTower

4:43pm Thu 30 Aug 12

JayEss says...

Car insurance seems expensive but 40 years of insurance payments at £800 is a total of £32 grand. One accident can easily cost an insurer more than that.

Not as much of a rip-off as you might think.
Car insurance seems expensive but 40 years of insurance payments at £800 is a total of £32 grand. One accident can easily cost an insurer more than that. Not as much of a rip-off as you might think. JayEss

4:46pm Thu 30 Aug 12

impartial83 says...

Seriously?! All of the issues are down to a minority of individuals? Similar to the banking system that's been abused by what you could call 'indigenous' members of our society, people are exploiting the system. Correct the system, make it tougher to make ridiculous claims. Yes, I am what some of you would call a 'minority', and I share your frustrations the same. I am no better off than you and have the pay exactly the same prices.
Seriously?! All of the issues are down to a minority of individuals? Similar to the banking system that's been abused by what you could call 'indigenous' members of our society, people are exploiting the system. Correct the system, make it tougher to make ridiculous claims. Yes, I am what some of you would call a 'minority', and I share your frustrations the same. I am no better off than you and have the pay exactly the same prices. impartial83

4:58pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Sajdin says...

darwenTower wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.
It helps if it proves to be a set up? like you see many crash for cash are?
[quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.[/p][/quote]It helps if it proves to be a set up? like you see many crash for cash are? Sajdin

5:00pm Thu 30 Aug 12

thoroughbred says...

I've been a victim, where one driver, then became + 4 passengers with whiplash, on a steep hill, lashing with rain, sudden braking in front of me, for no reason. I was in 3rd gear doing about 25 mph, surprisingly they were Asian...
here's the petition folks, just copy the link into your browser and get signing!
...http://www.gopeti
tion.com/petitions/g
et-bb-postcodes-insu
rance-premiums-reduc
ed/sign.html#se
I've been a victim, where one driver, then became + 4 passengers with whiplash, on a steep hill, lashing with rain, sudden braking in front of me, for no reason. I was in 3rd gear doing about 25 mph, surprisingly they were Asian... here's the petition folks, just copy the link into your browser and get signing! ...http://www.gopeti tion.com/petitions/g et-bb-postcodes-insu rance-premiums-reduc ed/sign.html#se thoroughbred

5:19pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Sajdin says...

Shouldnt this petition be on the governments website rather then a third partys site?
Shouldnt this petition be on the governments website rather then a third partys site? Sajdin

5:50pm Thu 30 Aug 12

darwenTower says...

I think people also need to consider that the comparison websites take on average 24% of your premium.

People think they are saving money but ultimately it has to be costed back in.

http://www.moneywise
.co.uk/cut-your-cost
s/shop-smart/the-tru
th-about-comparison-
websites
I think people also need to consider that the comparison websites take on average 24% of your premium. People think they are saving money but ultimately it has to be costed back in. http://www.moneywise .co.uk/cut-your-cost s/shop-smart/the-tru th-about-comparison- websites darwenTower

6:15pm Thu 30 Aug 12

timeforcommonsense says...

Statistics speak for themselves, you cannot get away from the fact that this is without a doubt mainly people of Asian origin, they find it easier because they have people working in such positions as the doctor who examines them after such supposed accidents. There needs to be more colaboration between insurers with people being flagged as offenders and tougher sentences for these insurance theives, any doctor found to be involved in such deception should never practice medicine again.
Statistics speak for themselves, you cannot get away from the fact that this is without a doubt mainly people of Asian origin, they find it easier because they have people working in such positions as the doctor who examines them after such supposed accidents. There needs to be more colaboration between insurers with people being flagged as offenders and tougher sentences for these insurance theives, any doctor found to be involved in such deception should never practice medicine again. timeforcommonsense

6:46pm Thu 30 Aug 12

RUinsane says...

Your ferret stinks wrote:
Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.
Naughty boy!
[quote][p][bold]Your ferret stinks[/bold] wrote: Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.[/p][/quote]Naughty boy! RUinsane

6:53pm Thu 30 Aug 12

RUinsane says...

Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I have done the same in my fiat 500 twinair. I am going to ride round all day and film bad driving and parking in the railway station morrisons area, and send all the evidence to the council. Then they can send fines through the post to all these maniac driving criminals. I ask only for petrol expenses. The amount of taxi drivers picking up fines and points will be astonishing. I will also follow high end high power vehicles to see if I can gather any drug dealing evidence as well. I may get a community award for my efforts to clean up this town.
Will you be doing the same? we could be the new starsky and hutch?
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I have done the same in my fiat 500 twinair. I am going to ride round all day and film bad driving and parking in the railway station morrisons area, and send all the evidence to the council. Then they can send fines through the post to all these maniac driving criminals. I ask only for petrol expenses. The amount of taxi drivers picking up fines and points will be astonishing. I will also follow high end high power vehicles to see if I can gather any drug dealing evidence as well. I may get a community award for my efforts to clean up this town. Will you be doing the same? we could be the new starsky and hutch? RUinsane

6:57pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Chugger says...

Sajdin wrote:
darwenTower wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.
It helps if it proves to be a set up? like you see many crash for cash are?
I agree with DT... i intend to fit cctv to my car but I'm thinking it will just confirm that you did actually run into them... but i think what it would be good for though is if they switch driver and an old colleague told me about his horror story at the Rose Grove (can't remember it's name) roundabout... the driver didn't change or passenger number increase but the car did! it was only because he'd taken down the car reg that the insurance investigators found they were claiming for a much more expensive car to be repaired... the ethnicity is irrelevant but they were Asian and they were prosecuted. What puzzles me is how you go on with GPS based insurance.. if it charges you extra for sharp braking.. does that mean that avoiding accidents you didn't cause, ultimately costs you money? can the system distinguish between good and bad drivers or is the digital output of accelerometers and a GPS tracker the final word?
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.[/p][/quote]It helps if it proves to be a set up? like you see many crash for cash are?[/p][/quote]I agree with DT... i intend to fit cctv to my car but I'm thinking it will just confirm that you did actually run into them... but i think what it would be good for though is if they switch driver and an old colleague told me about his horror story at the Rose Grove (can't remember it's name) roundabout... the driver didn't change or passenger number increase but the car did! it was only because he'd taken down the car reg that the insurance investigators found they were claiming for a much more expensive car to be repaired... the ethnicity is irrelevant but they were Asian and they were prosecuted. What puzzles me is how you go on with GPS based insurance.. if it charges you extra for sharp braking.. does that mean that avoiding accidents you didn't cause, ultimately costs you money? can the system distinguish between good and bad drivers or is the digital output of accelerometers and a GPS tracker the final word? Chugger

6:59pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Sajdin says...

RUinsane wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I have done the same in my fiat 500 twinair. I am going to ride round all day and film bad driving and parking in the railway station morrisons area, and send all the evidence to the council. Then they can send fines through the post to all these maniac driving criminals. I ask only for petrol expenses. The amount of taxi drivers picking up fines and points will be astonishing. I will also follow high end high power vehicles to see if I can gather any drug dealing evidence as well. I may get a community award for my efforts to clean up this town.
Will you be doing the same? we could be the new starsky and hutch?
sounds like a plan
[quote][p][bold]RUinsane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I have done the same in my fiat 500 twinair. I am going to ride round all day and film bad driving and parking in the railway station morrisons area, and send all the evidence to the council. Then they can send fines through the post to all these maniac driving criminals. I ask only for petrol expenses. The amount of taxi drivers picking up fines and points will be astonishing. I will also follow high end high power vehicles to see if I can gather any drug dealing evidence as well. I may get a community award for my efforts to clean up this town. Will you be doing the same? we could be the new starsky and hutch?[/p][/quote]sounds like a plan Sajdin

7:00pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Chugger says...

Ps. wtf should we pay for the insurers to do a crap job at investigating something that is earning them a **** load of cash in revenue.. **** s!!!
Ps. wtf should we pay for the insurers to do a crap job at investigating something that is earning them a **** load of cash in revenue.. **** s!!! Chugger

7:43pm Thu 30 Aug 12

sharonAccy says...

Struggling with the links but want to sign Any help thanks
Struggling with the links but want to sign Any help thanks sharonAccy

7:49pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Chugger says...

Sharon you'll have to hold down your left mouse button to select the link.. then right click the link (you selected - which should be highlighted blue) select copy... then open a new internet/google chrome window.. click into box where you would type a web address... right click and select paste...
Sharon you'll have to hold down your left mouse button to select the link.. then right click the link (you selected - which should be highlighted blue) select copy... then open a new internet/google chrome window.. click into box where you would type a web address... right click and select paste... Chugger

7:56pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Sajdin says...

Chugger wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
darwenTower wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.
It helps if it proves to be a set up? like you see many crash for cash are?
I agree with DT... i intend to fit cctv to my car but I'm thinking it will just confirm that you did actually run into them... but i think what it would be good for though is if they switch driver and an old colleague told me about his horror story at the Rose Grove (can't remember it's name) roundabout... the driver didn't change or passenger number increase but the car did! it was only because he'd taken down the car reg that the insurance investigators found they were claiming for a much more expensive car to be repaired... the ethnicity is irrelevant but they were Asian and they were prosecuted. What puzzles me is how you go on with GPS based insurance.. if it charges you extra for sharp braking.. does that mean that avoiding accidents you didn't cause, ultimately costs you money? can the system distinguish between good and bad drivers or is the digital output of accelerometers and a GPS tracker the final word?
The system I got, is only 30 quid and only records. However if you invest in a roadhawk, similiar to what my brother has, that has gps location details, g force sensors and also records whilst the car is off (if battery gets low on car, it cuts off aswell) those systems cost upto £200, but will provide details on how much force the car came into collision with in front, or another car hittin yours, will provide precise gps location details.

The black box insurance, judges your driving over a period of time, my cousin has it and he has already reduced his insurance in a year by £200.
[quote][p][bold]Chugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I don't know how recording yourself running into people is likely to help you in case of a claim.[/p][/quote]It helps if it proves to be a set up? like you see many crash for cash are?[/p][/quote]I agree with DT... i intend to fit cctv to my car but I'm thinking it will just confirm that you did actually run into them... but i think what it would be good for though is if they switch driver and an old colleague told me about his horror story at the Rose Grove (can't remember it's name) roundabout... the driver didn't change or passenger number increase but the car did! it was only because he'd taken down the car reg that the insurance investigators found they were claiming for a much more expensive car to be repaired... the ethnicity is irrelevant but they were Asian and they were prosecuted. What puzzles me is how you go on with GPS based insurance.. if it charges you extra for sharp braking.. does that mean that avoiding accidents you didn't cause, ultimately costs you money? can the system distinguish between good and bad drivers or is the digital output of accelerometers and a GPS tracker the final word?[/p][/quote]The system I got, is only 30 quid and only records. However if you invest in a roadhawk, similiar to what my brother has, that has gps location details, g force sensors and also records whilst the car is off (if battery gets low on car, it cuts off aswell) those systems cost upto £200, but will provide details on how much force the car came into collision with in front, or another car hittin yours, will provide precise gps location details. The black box insurance, judges your driving over a period of time, my cousin has it and he has already reduced his insurance in a year by £200. Sajdin

8:04pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Chugger says...

when i last looked GPS was only good for plus or minus 10m accuracy.. that's wider than the road... you just know the legal profession will use the element of doubt to their advantage... i wish court cases were televised like Judge Judy :)
when i last looked GPS was only good for plus or minus 10m accuracy.. that's wider than the road... you just know the legal profession will use the element of doubt to their advantage... i wish court cases were televised like Judge Judy :) Chugger

8:14pm Thu 30 Aug 12

blackburn89 says...

Good for him. I don't have facebook but if i did i would join and i'm sure many others that don't have it either would join!
Good for him. I don't have facebook but if i did i would join and i'm sure many others that don't have it either would join! blackburn89

8:16pm Thu 30 Aug 12

sen c ble says...

blackburn89 wrote:
Good for him. I don't have facebook but if i did i would join and i'm sure many others that don't have it either would join!
Sign up, it's there in front of you!!!
[quote][p][bold]blackburn89[/bold] wrote: Good for him. I don't have facebook but if i did i would join and i'm sure many others that don't have it either would join![/p][/quote]Sign up, it's there in front of you!!! sen c ble

8:44pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Chugger says...

sen c ble wrote:
blackburn89 wrote:
Good for him. I don't have facebook but if i did i would join and i'm sure many others that don't have it either would join!
Sign up, it's there in front of you!!!
Why did he not choose yougov?
[quote][p][bold]sen c ble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackburn89[/bold] wrote: Good for him. I don't have facebook but if i did i would join and i'm sure many others that don't have it either would join![/p][/quote]Sign up, it's there in front of you!!![/p][/quote]Why did he not choose yougov? Chugger

8:57pm Thu 30 Aug 12

treetrunk says...

My insurance is due next month and I am dreading it.48 years old no claims and no points driving a Picasso diesel worth about a grand,Last year I paid £600.I live in BB11 and why should I have to pay for fraudulent claims.If its one group of society doing the scam then load their insurance.
My insurance is due next month and I am dreading it.48 years old no claims and no points driving a Picasso diesel worth about a grand,Last year I paid £600.I live in BB11 and why should I have to pay for fraudulent claims.If its one group of society doing the scam then load their insurance. treetrunk

8:57pm Thu 30 Aug 12

mellormoo says...

Your ferret stinks wrote:
Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.
For your info, a large part of Ribble Valley has BB1 post code for some reason. Its a rural area & we get charged the same as living in the middle of Blackburn. My daughter was refused insurance as a learner based on our postcode by one company.
[quote][p][bold]Your ferret stinks[/bold] wrote: Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.[/p][/quote]For your info, a large part of Ribble Valley has BB1 post code for some reason. Its a rural area & we get charged the same as living in the middle of Blackburn. My daughter was refused insurance as a learner based on our postcode by one company. mellormoo

9:00pm Thu 30 Aug 12

Chugger says...

mellormoo wrote:
Your ferret stinks wrote:
Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.
For your info, a large part of Ribble Valley has BB1 post code for some reason. Its a rural area & we get charged the same as living in the middle of Blackburn. My daughter was refused insurance as a learner based on our postcode by one company.
because its withing sneaky, conning distance? (sorry though, i really am, they are scum)
[quote][p][bold]mellormoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Your ferret stinks[/bold] wrote: Didn't know anyone in BB1 bought insurance.[/p][/quote]For your info, a large part of Ribble Valley has BB1 post code for some reason. Its a rural area & we get charged the same as living in the middle of Blackburn. My daughter was refused insurance as a learner based on our postcode by one company.[/p][/quote]because its withing sneaky, conning distance? (sorry though, i really am, they are scum) Chugger

10:16pm Thu 30 Aug 12

elmo maniac says...

My husbands car insurance went up £300 this year when it should go down.. we put my mums postcode in for curiosity and we could of saved £700 .. bb postcode insurance is stupid and needs sorting out the bad guys and not taking it out on the good guys
My husbands car insurance went up £300 this year when it should go down.. we put my mums postcode in for curiosity and we could of saved £700 .. bb postcode insurance is stupid and needs sorting out the bad guys and not taking it out on the good guys elmo maniac

2:02am Fri 31 Aug 12

Benjis mum says...

It would be a fairer system if they used more letters and numbers from the postcode instead of just the first 2 letters and a single number.

Or they could charge people with british names less and asian names more then the asians who were doing the crash for cash scams would pay more and the asians who were innocent would possibly be able to "persuade" the guilty ones to stop it as they are giving all the asians a bad name.
It would be a fairer system if they used more letters and numbers from the postcode instead of just the first 2 letters and a single number. Or they could charge people with british names less and asian names more then the asians who were doing the crash for cash scams would pay more and the asians who were innocent would possibly be able to "persuade" the guilty ones to stop it as they are giving all the asians a bad name. Benjis mum

8:24am Fri 31 Aug 12

impartial83 says...

Benjis mum wrote:
It would be a fairer system if they used more letters and numbers from the postcode instead of just the first 2 letters and a single number.

Or they could charge people with british names less and asian names more then the asians who were doing the crash for cash scams would pay more and the asians who were innocent would possibly be able to "persuade" the guilty ones to stop it as they are giving all the asians a bad name.
How about you jail all the politicians for the expenses scandal until they all learn for the mistakes of a minority? And whilst your there send all the bankers to the same fate.

This should be an adult conversation, you live in a democratic society where the law of the land is thankfully not based on race, colour or creed and should have no place in our society.

However, i think what Rob is trying to achieve is commendable and hopefully with the support of Jack Straw (whether you like him or not he has pull) this can gain some momentum. The whole system needs an overhaul to provide fair premiums to the genuine, and for those that do have histories of Road Traffic Accidents punish/penalise them appropriately.
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: It would be a fairer system if they used more letters and numbers from the postcode instead of just the first 2 letters and a single number. Or they could charge people with british names less and asian names more then the asians who were doing the crash for cash scams would pay more and the asians who were innocent would possibly be able to "persuade" the guilty ones to stop it as they are giving all the asians a bad name.[/p][/quote]How about you jail all the politicians for the expenses scandal until they all learn for the mistakes of a minority? And whilst your there send all the bankers to the same fate. This should be an adult conversation, you live in a democratic society where the law of the land is thankfully not based on race, colour or creed and should have no place in our society. However, i think what Rob is trying to achieve is commendable and hopefully with the support of Jack Straw (whether you like him or not he has pull) this can gain some momentum. The whole system needs an overhaul to provide fair premiums to the genuine, and for those that do have histories of Road Traffic Accidents punish/penalise them appropriately. impartial83

8:38am Fri 31 Aug 12

jack daniels says...

RUinsane wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter.

If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company.

If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them !
I have done the same in my fiat 500 twinair. I am going to ride round all day and film bad driving and parking in the railway station morrisons area, and send all the evidence to the council. Then they can send fines through the post to all these maniac driving criminals. I ask only for petrol expenses. The amount of taxi drivers picking up fines and points will be astonishing. I will also follow high end high power vehicles to see if I can gather any drug dealing evidence as well. I may get a community award for my efforts to clean up this town.
Will you be doing the same? we could be the new starsky and hutch?
Are you sponsored by Fiat? You seem to name drop your little ladies car at every opportunity....
[quote][p][bold]RUinsane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: I have gone to the point of installing a car camera, which i picked up from ebay for £30. Records automatically when you turn the car on, very easy to install with all wires tucked away to the cigeratte lighter. If anyone tried to try something on with me, Ill have video footage for the insurance company. If insurance companies are not willing to decrease there price, then they should decrease if you fit devices which collect evidence for them ![/p][/quote]I have done the same in my fiat 500 twinair. I am going to ride round all day and film bad driving and parking in the railway station morrisons area, and send all the evidence to the council. Then they can send fines through the post to all these maniac driving criminals. I ask only for petrol expenses. The amount of taxi drivers picking up fines and points will be astonishing. I will also follow high end high power vehicles to see if I can gather any drug dealing evidence as well. I may get a community award for my efforts to clean up this town. Will you be doing the same? we could be the new starsky and hutch?[/p][/quote]Are you sponsored by Fiat? You seem to name drop your little ladies car at every opportunity.... jack daniels

12:26pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Plasticbertrand says...

The problem in Blackburn is puerly down to the pandering of Jack Straw to the 'ethnic majority' in search of votes and the softly softly approach of Chief Superintendent Bob Eastwood's policing of the area, in fear of his force being branded as racist. I know that if I was a traffic policeman in an umarked car working Blackburn's street, my arrest rate would never fall below seven offences per hour.
The problem in Blackburn is puerly down to the pandering of Jack Straw to the 'ethnic majority' in search of votes and the softly softly approach of Chief Superintendent Bob Eastwood's policing of the area, in fear of his force being branded as racist. I know that if I was a traffic policeman in an umarked car working Blackburn's street, my arrest rate would never fall below seven offences per hour. Plasticbertrand

12:27pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Plasticbertrand says...

The problem in Blackburn is puerly down to the pandering of Jack Straw to the 'ethnic majority' in search of votes and the softly softly approach of Chief Superintendent Bob Eastwood's policing of the area, in fear of his force being branded as racist. I know that if I was a traffic policeman in an umarked car working Blackburn's street, my arrest rate would never fall below seven offences per hour.
The problem in Blackburn is puerly down to the pandering of Jack Straw to the 'ethnic majority' in search of votes and the softly softly approach of Chief Superintendent Bob Eastwood's policing of the area, in fear of his force being branded as racist. I know that if I was a traffic policeman in an umarked car working Blackburn's street, my arrest rate would never fall below seven offences per hour. Plasticbertrand

12:28pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Plasticbertrand says...

The problem in Blackburn is puerly down to the pandering of Jack Straw to the 'ethnic majority' in search of votes and the softly softly approach of Chief Superintendent Bob Eastwood's policing of the area, in fear of his force being branded as racist. I know that if I was a traffic policeman in an umarked car working Blackburn's street, my arrest rate would never fall below seven offences per hour.
The problem in Blackburn is puerly down to the pandering of Jack Straw to the 'ethnic majority' in search of votes and the softly softly approach of Chief Superintendent Bob Eastwood's policing of the area, in fear of his force being branded as racist. I know that if I was a traffic policeman in an umarked car working Blackburn's street, my arrest rate would never fall below seven offences per hour. Plasticbertrand

1:49pm Fri 31 Aug 12

faz25 says...

i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.
i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars. faz25

2:00pm Fri 31 Aug 12

kempy says...

Well said Faz
Well said Faz kempy

4:22pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Benjis mum says...

faz25 wrote:
i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.
Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement.

If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s.

@impartial83
Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.
[quote][p][bold]faz25[/bold] wrote: i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.[/p][/quote]Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement. If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s. @impartial83 Telling it as it is isnt always being racist. Benjis mum

6:18pm Fri 31 Aug 12

impartial83 says...

Benjis mum wrote:
faz25 wrote:
i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.
Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement.

If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s.

@impartial83
Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.
Benjis mum - the point you made was to raise the insurance premiums of everyone with an Asian name! How can that not be discrimination and/or stereotyping? I hope something does get done about this, but some of the suggestions on this page do not work in a democratic society; more in regime's that our country is fighting against eradicating.

I'm not saying I have the answer, but that's why we elect politicians to make such decisions on our behalf. It's why we pay some of the highest rate of taxes in the EU. If anything, the failure of the current system lies in their hands and pressure needs to be applied on them to take action, which is the whole point of this article.
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]faz25[/bold] wrote: i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.[/p][/quote]Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement. If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s. @impartial83 Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.[/p][/quote]Benjis mum - the point you made was to raise the insurance premiums of everyone with an Asian name! How can that not be discrimination and/or stereotyping? I hope something does get done about this, but some of the suggestions on this page do not work in a democratic society; more in regime's that our country is fighting against eradicating. I'm not saying I have the answer, but that's why we elect politicians to make such decisions on our behalf. It's why we pay some of the highest rate of taxes in the EU. If anything, the failure of the current system lies in their hands and pressure needs to be applied on them to take action, which is the whole point of this article. impartial83

7:34pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Benjis mum says...

Its not discriminating to make the community that is causing the problem pay for it and to reduce the premiums for the communities that arent causing the problem.
Its easy to do using the statistics of the accidents/claims and seeing which community is doing the scams.

The innocent ones would then stop the guilty ones from comitting the scams and their premiums would quickly come down to the same price as everyone elses.

Isnt it fairer to do that than to charge everyone too much in order to perpetuate the scams that only benefit a few asians.
Its not discriminating to make the community that is causing the problem pay for it and to reduce the premiums for the communities that arent causing the problem. Its easy to do using the statistics of the accidents/claims and seeing which community is doing the scams. The innocent ones would then stop the guilty ones from comitting the scams and their premiums would quickly come down to the same price as everyone elses. Isnt it fairer to do that than to charge everyone too much in order to perpetuate the scams that only benefit a few asians. Benjis mum

9:01pm Fri 31 Aug 12

faz25 says...

http://www.gopetitio
n.com/petitions/get-
bb-postcodes-insuran
ce-premiums-reduced/
sign.html#se
http://www.gopetitio n.com/petitions/get- bb-postcodes-insuran ce-premiums-reduced/ sign.html#se faz25

2:27am Sat 1 Sep 12

wrinkles says...

I just had to stump up a bloated insurance premium even tho' I've had decades of accident free driving. I was told that even tho' I live in the quiet law abiding backwater of BB5 everyone who lives in the BB postcode area is being penalised for the actions of some Blackburn rogues.
I just had to stump up a bloated insurance premium even tho' I've had decades of accident free driving. I was told that even tho' I live in the quiet law abiding backwater of BB5 everyone who lives in the BB postcode area is being penalised for the actions of some Blackburn rogues. wrinkles

8:43am Sat 1 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
faz25 wrote:
i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.
Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement.

If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s.

@impartial83
Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.
It would also be fair and in accordance to your demented understanding to penalise all motorists regardless of area and county for whiplash and back injury accident claims resulting in all UK drivers paying a much higher premium.
I would also be campaigning for all dog owner's to be prosecuted and fined if and when fouling occurs. Please could you therefore be the first to register your name as a dog owner.
Sorted.
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]faz25[/bold] wrote: i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.[/p][/quote]Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement. If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s. @impartial83 Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.[/p][/quote]It would also be fair and in accordance to your demented understanding to penalise all motorists regardless of area and county for whiplash and back injury accident claims resulting in all UK drivers paying a much higher premium. I would also be campaigning for all dog owner's to be prosecuted and fined if and when fouling occurs. Please could you therefore be the first to register your name as a dog owner. Sorted. sen c ble

9:32am Sat 1 Sep 12

BritainfortheBritish says...

If it wasnt for the crooked asians it would not be so high.
Totally agree with the petition though.
If it wasnt for the crooked asians it would not be so high. Totally agree with the petition though. BritainfortheBritish

5:11pm Sat 1 Sep 12

internet101 says...

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
If it wasnt for the crooked asians it would not be so high.
Totally agree with the petition though.
Post codes have always been used to cost insurance so the insurance companies are doing nothing different. It's just the demographic's of race have changed in the area with a correlation of claims. I am sure this would also correlate to increase claims of racial hatered, violence on white ingenious population by people of Pakistani origin, drug dealing and prostitution, aswell as underage sex gangs/rings.

I don't agree with the work Asian being used to describe the people who are mainly involved with this crime, this offends Chinese and other people from Asia!

These are of Pakistani origin people with limited intelligence and have years less mental development than the western Europeans.

The problem is as i see it a greed issue and a willingness to set-others up. I can see why race is an issue here since that the only crash for cash examples on here relate to when they have hit an asian driver. A friend of mine was a victim of this crime, they claimed an additional 3 passengers were in the car! this sort of culture and selfishness is due to Pakistanis failing to integrate into our western society and carry on to segregate themselves. They use their religion as a barrier and they also play the race card to often. My view is if you feel discriminated go and live in a place where you don't....look at wildlife, you don't see polar bears in Canada or Bears in the North Pole! get me!

Rant over...
[quote][p][bold]BritainfortheBritish[/bold] wrote: If it wasnt for the crooked asians it would not be so high. Totally agree with the petition though.[/p][/quote]Post codes have always been used to cost insurance so the insurance companies are doing nothing different. It's just the demographic's of race have changed in the area with a correlation of claims. I am sure this would also correlate to increase claims of racial hatered, violence on white ingenious population by people of Pakistani origin, drug dealing and prostitution, aswell as underage sex gangs/rings. I don't agree with the work Asian being used to describe the people who are mainly involved with this crime, this offends Chinese and other people from Asia! These are of Pakistani origin people with limited intelligence and have years less mental development than the western Europeans. The problem is as i see it a greed issue and a willingness to set-others up. I can see why race is an issue here since that the only crash for cash examples on here relate to when they have hit an asian driver. A friend of mine was a victim of this crime, they claimed an additional 3 passengers were in the car! this sort of culture and selfishness is due to Pakistanis failing to integrate into our western society and carry on to segregate themselves. They use their religion as a barrier and they also play the race card to often. My view is if you feel discriminated go and live in a place where you don't....look at wildlife, you don't see polar bears in Canada or Bears in the North Pole! get me! Rant over... internet101

5:45pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

sen c ble wrote:
Benjis mum wrote:
faz25 wrote:
i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.
Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement.

If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s.

@impartial83
Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.
It would also be fair and in accordance to your demented understanding to penalise all motorists regardless of area and county for whiplash and back injury accident claims resulting in all UK drivers paying a much higher premium.
I would also be campaigning for all dog owner's to be prosecuted and fined if and when fouling occurs. Please could you therefore be the first to register your name as a dog owner.
Sorted.
Like all other responsible dog owners, I am registered as my dog is chipped. I condemn the irresponsible ones who permit their dogs to foul and dont do anything about it and agree with them being fined for it.

Apart from faz25 there dont appear to be any other asians prepared to admit on here that the cash for crash scams are being comitted by other asians.
It appears that he is the only one prepared to speak out against the criminal element in your community, whereas you seem to condone what they are doing.

Maybe its not me thats demented after all as its more likely to be you.
[quote][p][bold]sen c ble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]faz25[/bold] wrote: i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.[/p][/quote]Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement. If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s. @impartial83 Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.[/p][/quote]It would also be fair and in accordance to your demented understanding to penalise all motorists regardless of area and county for whiplash and back injury accident claims resulting in all UK drivers paying a much higher premium. I would also be campaigning for all dog owner's to be prosecuted and fined if and when fouling occurs. Please could you therefore be the first to register your name as a dog owner. Sorted.[/p][/quote]Like all other responsible dog owners, I am registered as my dog is chipped. I condemn the irresponsible ones who permit their dogs to foul and dont do anything about it and agree with them being fined for it. Apart from faz25 there dont appear to be any other asians prepared to admit on here that the cash for crash scams are being comitted by other asians. It appears that he is the only one prepared to speak out against the criminal element in your community, whereas you seem to condone what they are doing. Maybe its not me thats demented after all as its more likely to be you. Benjis mum

5:52pm Sat 1 Sep 12

faz25 says...

Internet 101 u sound like an asain and i think u have made a few claims in your life and now set for life and hard working people like us do not get anywhere. Being an asian i am completley against this insurance scam its ridicilous and you know the scam goes on. Insurance companies should investigate further instead of just giving out money left right and centre. Hopefully when this referal fee thing stops then it my make a bit of a difference.
Internet 101 u sound like an asain and i think u have made a few claims in your life and now set for life and hard working people like us do not get anywhere. Being an asian i am completley against this insurance scam its ridicilous and you know the scam goes on. Insurance companies should investigate further instead of just giving out money left right and centre. Hopefully when this referal fee thing stops then it my make a bit of a difference. faz25

6:08pm Sat 1 Sep 12

internet101 says...

faz25 wrote:
Internet 101 u sound like an asain and i think u have made a few claims in your life and now set for life and hard working people like us do not get anywhere. Being an asian i am completley against this insurance scam its ridicilous and you know the scam goes on. Insurance companies should investigate further instead of just giving out money left right and centre. Hopefully when this referal fee thing stops then it my make a bit of a difference.
what makes you make them assumptions? assumptions is all that they are and ill-founded.

I can relate to the referrals issue and that Insurance companies have made a business model out of crash for cash. Companies do this in order to sustain and grow their business and will adapt and exploit revenue opportunities.

This discussion is mainly centered on post code differences and the root cause, to which i have replied what i feel is a deeper social problem to why people can feel justified in actually committing this type of fraud on other people with the flat vindication of who they are and who they target to get the claim against.
[quote][p][bold]faz25[/bold] wrote: Internet 101 u sound like an asain and i think u have made a few claims in your life and now set for life and hard working people like us do not get anywhere. Being an asian i am completley against this insurance scam its ridicilous and you know the scam goes on. Insurance companies should investigate further instead of just giving out money left right and centre. Hopefully when this referal fee thing stops then it my make a bit of a difference.[/p][/quote]what makes you make them assumptions? assumptions is all that they are and ill-founded. I can relate to the referrals issue and that Insurance companies have made a business model out of crash for cash. Companies do this in order to sustain and grow their business and will adapt and exploit revenue opportunities. This discussion is mainly centered on post code differences and the root cause, to which i have replied what i feel is a deeper social problem to why people can feel justified in actually committing this type of fraud on other people with the flat vindication of who they are and who they target to get the claim against. internet101

5:33pm Sun 2 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
sen c ble wrote:
Benjis mum wrote:
faz25 wrote:
i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.
Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement.

If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s.

@impartial83
Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.
It would also be fair and in accordance to your demented understanding to penalise all motorists regardless of area and county for whiplash and back injury accident claims resulting in all UK drivers paying a much higher premium.
I would also be campaigning for all dog owner's to be prosecuted and fined if and when fouling occurs. Please could you therefore be the first to register your name as a dog owner.
Sorted.
Like all other responsible dog owners, I am registered as my dog is chipped. I condemn the irresponsible ones who permit their dogs to foul and dont do anything about it and agree with them being fined for it.

Apart from faz25 there dont appear to be any other asians prepared to admit on here that the cash for crash scams are being comitted by other asians.
It appears that he is the only one prepared to speak out against the criminal element in your community, whereas you seem to condone what they are doing.

Maybe its not me thats demented after all as its more likely to be you.
Well!!!

Penalise all asians for the irresponsible action of some, as long as you don't for the irresponsible dog owner's.

Perfect understanding in your demented unbalanced world.
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c ble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]faz25[/bold] wrote: i am an Asian and i live in the BB1 area and i am ashamed to be living in this area because these stupid "Asains" who have no educational background make fake claims and get compensations and then go have a massive holiday and leave us normal working class people to struggle with paying high premiums. insurance companies should be rising the prices of the actual person who has made a claim not the whole area it does not make sense, its like someone from down the road has committed a murder but the whole street gets done for it. Ridiculous i hope something gets done about this and hope the prices go down or there will be a time where normal people will not be able to afford cars.[/p][/quote]Thats what I was saying in my earlier comment which impartial83 seemed to think was a racist statement. If more people were like faz25 and spoke out about the scum of all colours and nationalities, in their own communities, then the UK could be more like it used to be in the 1960s. @impartial83 Telling it as it is isnt always being racist.[/p][/quote]It would also be fair and in accordance to your demented understanding to penalise all motorists regardless of area and county for whiplash and back injury accident claims resulting in all UK drivers paying a much higher premium. I would also be campaigning for all dog owner's to be prosecuted and fined if and when fouling occurs. Please could you therefore be the first to register your name as a dog owner. Sorted.[/p][/quote]Like all other responsible dog owners, I am registered as my dog is chipped. I condemn the irresponsible ones who permit their dogs to foul and dont do anything about it and agree with them being fined for it. Apart from faz25 there dont appear to be any other asians prepared to admit on here that the cash for crash scams are being comitted by other asians. It appears that he is the only one prepared to speak out against the criminal element in your community, whereas you seem to condone what they are doing. Maybe its not me thats demented after all as its more likely to be you.[/p][/quote]Well!!! Penalise all asians for the irresponsible action of some, as long as you don't for the irresponsible dog owner's. Perfect understanding in your demented unbalanced world. sen c ble

10:58am Mon 3 Sep 12

Emmerdale says...

Sir,
I have just moved from Gloucester back to BB5 and notified my insurance broker of change of address. I was horrified to find that my insurance had gone up from £230 to £470 with the same company. How can you justify this increase. I have no option but to pay up. When I asked why the increase,I was told, a certain group of drivers were making claims in the BB5 area. I have contacted my broker to no avail. It looks like another post code lottery scam.
Sir, I have just moved from Gloucester back to BB5 and notified my insurance broker of change of address. I was horrified to find that my insurance had gone up from £230 to £470 with the same company. How can you justify this increase. I have no option but to pay up. When I asked why the increase,I was told, a certain group of drivers were making claims in the BB5 area. I have contacted my broker to no avail. It looks like another post code lottery scam. Emmerdale

11:10am Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

Emmerdale
http://www.gopetitio

n.com/petitions/get-

bb-postcodes-insuran

ce-premiums-reduced/

sign.html#se
Faz 25 sent this link to a petition I have sent it to all my contacts hopefully we may get somewhere with these bloody rip off insurance companys
Emmerdale http://www.gopetitio n.com/petitions/get- bb-postcodes-insuran ce-premiums-reduced/ sign.html#se Faz 25 sent this link to a petition I have sent it to all my contacts hopefully we may get somewhere with these bloody rip off insurance companys kempy

11:11am Mon 3 Sep 12

kempy says...

Emmerdale
http://www.gopetitio

n.com/petitions/get-

bb-postcodes-insuran

ce-premiums-reduced/

sign.html#se
Faz 25 sent this link to a petition I have sent it to all my contacts hopefully we may get somewhere with these bloody rip off insurance companys
Emmerdale http://www.gopetitio n.com/petitions/get- bb-postcodes-insuran ce-premiums-reduced/ sign.html#se Faz 25 sent this link to a petition I have sent it to all my contacts hopefully we may get somewhere with these bloody rip off insurance companys kempy

1:30pm Mon 3 Sep 12

jack denials says...

You’re going to work and you are hit by a bus (which has CCTV) from the back. You get severe Whiplash and have muscular tearing in addition to being traumatised due to the impact (greater force than a standard car hitting you on the back) and you are out of work on SSP for eight weeks. Obviously in these circumstances you are going to claim (I’m only telling you what happened to me).

Don’t blame all incidents for the premiums rising.....
You’re going to work and you are hit by a bus (which has CCTV) from the back. You get severe Whiplash and have muscular tearing in addition to being traumatised due to the impact (greater force than a standard car hitting you on the back) and you are out of work on SSP for eight weeks. Obviously in these circumstances you are going to claim (I’m only telling you what happened to me). Don’t blame all incidents for the premiums rising..... jack denials

5:44pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

@unsensible

"Well!!!

Penalise all asians for the irresponsible action of some, as long as you don't for the irresponsible dog owner's.

Perfect understanding in your demented unbalanced world.”

I realise that you seem to be a bit hard of thinking, presumably because your parents are probably first cousins and from other comments you have made you have been brainwashed from birth to belive in myths, fairytales and fantasies, but can you not see the difference between responsible dog owners condemning irresponsible dog owners and innocent asians condoning the criminal actions of some members of your community.

If you all reported the criminal element of your community, then as I said earlier, they would have to stop doing their insurance scams and insurance premiums would get reduced to what they should be.
@unsensible "Well!!! Penalise all asians for the irresponsible action of some, as long as you don't for the irresponsible dog owner's. Perfect understanding in your demented unbalanced world.” I realise that you seem to be a bit hard of thinking, presumably because your parents are probably first cousins and from other comments you have made you have been brainwashed from birth to belive in myths, fairytales and fantasies, but can you not see the difference between responsible dog owners condemning irresponsible dog owners and innocent asians condoning the criminal actions of some members of your community. If you all reported the criminal element of your community, then as I said earlier, they would have to stop doing their insurance scams and insurance premiums would get reduced to what they should be. Benjis mum

6:53pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Emmerdale says...

Dear all,
I'ts needs to be PDQ that we in the BB areas get this insurance scam sorted.
The only alternative I see is SHANKSY PONY !!!
Dear all, I'ts needs to be PDQ that we in the BB areas get this insurance scam sorted. The only alternative I see is SHANKSY PONY !!! Emmerdale

7:19pm Mon 3 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
@unsensible

"Well!!!

Penalise all asians for the irresponsible action of some, as long as you don't for the irresponsible dog owner's.

Perfect understanding in your demented unbalanced world.”

I realise that you seem to be a bit hard of thinking, presumably because your parents are probably first cousins and from other comments you have made you have been brainwashed from birth to belive in myths, fairytales and fantasies, but can you not see the difference between responsible dog owners condemning irresponsible dog owners and innocent asians condoning the criminal actions of some members of your community.

If you all reported the criminal element of your community, then as I said earlier, they would have to stop doing their insurance scams and insurance premiums would get reduced to what they should be.
Maybe if you had the intelligence to report your irresponsible friends for dog fouling, we wouldn't be discussing this issue, but because you are also one of the guilty stinkers you should be prosecuted and punished.
It is clear from your posts and the comments you make that your brainwashed cells needs sanitising and the hatred you have for certain members of the community is evident. Suggesting to punish all asians for the minority law brekers is one example your incapability to think right. Knowing absolutely nothing about the arab Jewish affairs and yet bent-mad with Islamic criticisms. I on the other hand has had the opportunity to visit Palestine Efirat and witness the Jewish brutality afflicted upon the musleems AND Christians, but you being a Jew, unsurprisingly backs Israel.
For your information I am an Indian asian soldier, now retired and my parents were not inter-racially married. This is also mone of your unbalanced corrupt mind working over time.

How I wish you had been at the end of my barrel!!!
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: @unsensible "Well!!! Penalise all asians for the irresponsible action of some, as long as you don't for the irresponsible dog owner's. Perfect understanding in your demented unbalanced world.” I realise that you seem to be a bit hard of thinking, presumably because your parents are probably first cousins and from other comments you have made you have been brainwashed from birth to belive in myths, fairytales and fantasies, but can you not see the difference between responsible dog owners condemning irresponsible dog owners and innocent asians condoning the criminal actions of some members of your community. If you all reported the criminal element of your community, then as I said earlier, they would have to stop doing their insurance scams and insurance premiums would get reduced to what they should be.[/p][/quote]Maybe if you had the intelligence to report your irresponsible friends for dog fouling, we wouldn't be discussing this issue, but because you are also one of the guilty stinkers you should be prosecuted and punished. It is clear from your posts and the comments you make that your brainwashed cells needs sanitising and the hatred you have for certain members of the community is evident. Suggesting to punish all asians for the minority law brekers is one example your incapability to think right. Knowing absolutely nothing about the arab Jewish affairs and yet bent-mad with Islamic criticisms. I on the other hand has had the opportunity to visit Palestine Efirat and witness the Jewish brutality afflicted upon the musleems AND Christians, but you being a Jew, unsurprisingly backs Israel. For your information I am an Indian asian soldier, now retired and my parents were not inter-racially married. This is also mone of your unbalanced corrupt mind working over time. How I wish you had been at the end of my barrel!!! sen c ble

1:56am Tue 4 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

@unsensible
I dont know why you keep comparing dog fouling to insurance fraud.
Dog fouling is unpleasant as it can cause people to step in it and possibly slip or they may tread something nasty onto their carpets when they get home but no one makes any money out of it nor does it cost anyone anything.
Insurance fraud costs everyone a lot of money so that a few asians can make a lot of money out of it.

Like you I too was subjected to brainwashing as a child by my school but fortunately not too much by my parents. When I was mature enough to start to think for myself, at around the age of 11 or 12, I soon realised that all religions were man made and had caused problems all over the world for millenia and so I became an atheist.

Maybe if you closed your mouth for a bit and opened your mind you could then read some books that would educate you.
Throw away any copies of the bible, the quoran and the tora that you may have and read Charles Darwins book "The origin of species" and Richard Dawkins book "The god delusion"
These are both books written by great scientific minds who arent prone to fantasies, they could teach you a lot.

I wonder why my parents never told me I was jewish, oh thats right, its because like them I wasnt jewish.

As I said earlier I was originally being brainwashed into christianity, the church of england variety, most english people of my generation were in those days. There were a few in my school who were of an alien religion to the majority of people in england but apart from not attending assembly for morning prayers and preferring to eat fish instead of meat on fridays, no one really objected to them being catholics.

I havent really got much interest in arab/israeli affairs, as long as it doesnt affect us too much. I tend to think that people should live by the laws of the land that they live in and not try and force their ideas and customs on their host nation. Nor should they send suicide bombers into crowded places or fire rockets into a neighbouring land indiscriminately to try and provoke a reaction to encourage more nutters to become suicide bombers.
Unfortunately the muslims seem to bring their problems over to the west and ask for our help in such places as Iraq and Afghanistan, which costs lots of our brave lads and lasses their limbs and lives along with a lot of money which most english people would prefer to be spent at home, instead of on some uneducated backwards people who then complain when we help you to regain control of those countries.

Its a shame that when you had the "opportunity" to vist palestine that you didnt take your family and friends with you, along with the asians who do the crash for cash scams, and all stay there.

I dont know why you mention interracial marriages, is that your intolerance of other races showing through?
I assumed that your parents were probably first cousins which would usually imply that they were the same race and nationality.
@unsensible I dont know why you keep comparing dog fouling to insurance fraud. Dog fouling is unpleasant as it can cause people to step in it and possibly slip or they may tread something nasty onto their carpets when they get home but no one makes any money out of it nor does it cost anyone anything. Insurance fraud costs everyone a lot of money so that a few asians can make a lot of money out of it. Like you I too was subjected to brainwashing as a child by my school but fortunately not too much by my parents. When I was mature enough to start to think for myself, at around the age of 11 or 12, I soon realised that all religions were man made and had caused problems all over the world for millenia and so I became an atheist. Maybe if you closed your mouth for a bit and opened your mind you could then read some books that would educate you. Throw away any copies of the bible, the quoran and the tora that you may have and read Charles Darwins book "The origin of species" and Richard Dawkins book "The god delusion" These are both books written by great scientific minds who arent prone to fantasies, they could teach you a lot. I wonder why my parents never told me I was jewish, oh thats right, its because like them I wasnt jewish. As I said earlier I was originally being brainwashed into christianity, the church of england variety, most english people of my generation were in those days. There were a few in my school who were of an alien religion to the majority of people in england but apart from not attending assembly for morning prayers and preferring to eat fish instead of meat on fridays, no one really objected to them being catholics. I havent really got much interest in arab/israeli affairs, as long as it doesnt affect us too much. I tend to think that people should live by the laws of the land that they live in and not try and force their ideas and customs on their host nation. Nor should they send suicide bombers into crowded places or fire rockets into a neighbouring land indiscriminately to try and provoke a reaction to encourage more nutters to become suicide bombers. Unfortunately the muslims seem to bring their problems over to the west and ask for our help in such places as Iraq and Afghanistan, which costs lots of our brave lads and lasses their limbs and lives along with a lot of money which most english people would prefer to be spent at home, instead of on some uneducated backwards people who then complain when we help you to regain control of those countries. Its a shame that when you had the "opportunity" to vist palestine that you didnt take your family and friends with you, along with the asians who do the crash for cash scams, and all stay there. I dont know why you mention interracial marriages, is that your intolerance of other races showing through? I assumed that your parents were probably first cousins which would usually imply that they were the same race and nationality. Benjis mum

2:06am Tue 4 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

@unsensible

"How I wish you had been at the end of my barrel!!!”

Typical racist asian attitude.
You may as well have just said that you dont want to integrate, you would rather just shoot english people who dont agree with your narrow minded bigotted views.

I wonder why you want to stay in a country where you dont like the people.

Wouldnt you be happier living in India, a lot of english people would be happier if you and your family, if they think the same way as you do, moved back home.
You are one of the nastiest, most racist people I know.
@unsensible "How I wish you had been at the end of my barrel!!!” Typical racist asian attitude. You may as well have just said that you dont want to integrate, you would rather just shoot english people who dont agree with your narrow minded bigotted views. I wonder why you want to stay in a country where you dont like the people. Wouldnt you be happier living in India, a lot of english people would be happier if you and your family, if they think the same way as you do, moved back home. You are one of the nastiest, most racist people I know. Benjis mum

12:41pm Tue 4 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
@unsensible

"How I wish you had been at the end of my barrel!!!”

Typical racist asian attitude.
You may as well have just said that you dont want to integrate, you would rather just shoot english people who dont agree with your narrow minded bigotted views.

I wonder why you want to stay in a country where you dont like the people.

Wouldnt you be happier living in India, a lot of english people would be happier if you and your family, if they think the same way as you do, moved back home.
You are one of the nastiest, most racist people I know.
Demented evil woman you're certainly are, and your comments come as no surprise, and simply an excuse to express your ill, corrupt mind. I ain't no musleem, but will not tollerate hatred towards any asian at any excuse. I ain't no racist you cretin. I fought the japs at Malaya and was awarded for our bravery when victorious. Some of our close friends didn't make it! For our contribution we were allowed to reside in England and accepted 1951. Copy Nook, Skiddaw St was my 1st house.
Your suggestion to puinish all asians for the crimes of few, is one example of the evil low lifers that walk this planet. It is you that should leave and leave now, as you are unable to live in harmony and peace, evil by nature.
Yes I really do regret, and just wish the type's of you should have been targeted with precision!
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: @unsensible "How I wish you had been at the end of my barrel!!!” Typical racist asian attitude. You may as well have just said that you dont want to integrate, you would rather just shoot english people who dont agree with your narrow minded bigotted views. I wonder why you want to stay in a country where you dont like the people. Wouldnt you be happier living in India, a lot of english people would be happier if you and your family, if they think the same way as you do, moved back home. You are one of the nastiest, most racist people I know.[/p][/quote]Demented evil woman you're certainly are, and your comments come as no surprise, and simply an excuse to express your ill, corrupt mind. I ain't no musleem, but will not tollerate hatred towards any asian at any excuse. I ain't no racist you cretin. I fought the japs at Malaya and was awarded for our bravery when victorious. Some of our close friends didn't make it! For our contribution we were allowed to reside in England and accepted 1951. Copy Nook, Skiddaw St was my 1st house. Your suggestion to puinish all asians for the crimes of few, is one example of the evil low lifers that walk this planet. It is you that should leave and leave now, as you are unable to live in harmony and peace, evil by nature. Yes I really do regret, and just wish the type's of you should have been targeted with precision! sen c ble

7:12pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

@unsensible
How you can claim to not be a racist after saying what you have done in all your various comments shows how delusional and hard of thinking you are.

Even in your last coment you state that "the type's of you should have been targeted with precision!"

I assume that you mean law abiding tolerant english people who welcomed you and others like you into our country that you then want to destroy from the inside and turn into the same kind of third world country that you originally came from.

Please leave our once beautiful country and take your violent and racist ideas back to where you came from.

Do you not realise that immigrants like you are the ones that cause problems for the decent ones like faz25 and create distrust of non indigenous people.

English people welcome decent law abiding immigrants and their descendants but we dont want the criminal, bigotted, racist, violent and intolerant immigrants like you here.

Please leave my country as soon as possible
@unsensible How you can claim to not be a racist after saying what you have done in all your various comments shows how delusional and hard of thinking you are. Even in your last coment you state that "the type's of you should have been targeted with precision!" I assume that you mean law abiding tolerant english people who welcomed you and others like you into our country that you then want to destroy from the inside and turn into the same kind of third world country that you originally came from. Please leave our once beautiful country and take your violent and racist ideas back to where you came from. Do you not realise that immigrants like you are the ones that cause problems for the decent ones like faz25 and create distrust of non indigenous people. English people welcome decent law abiding immigrants and their descendants but we dont want the criminal, bigotted, racist, violent and intolerant immigrants like you here. Please leave my country as soon as possible Benjis mum

8:08pm Tue 4 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
@unsensible
How you can claim to not be a racist after saying what you have done in all your various comments shows how delusional and hard of thinking you are.

Even in your last coment you state that "the type's of you should have been targeted with precision!"

I assume that you mean law abiding tolerant english people who welcomed you and others like you into our country that you then want to destroy from the inside and turn into the same kind of third world country that you originally came from.

Please leave our once beautiful country and take your violent and racist ideas back to where you came from.

Do you not realise that immigrants like you are the ones that cause problems for the decent ones like faz25 and create distrust of non indigenous people.

English people welcome decent law abiding immigrants and their descendants but we dont want the criminal, bigotted, racist, violent and intolerant immigrants like you here.

Please leave my country as soon as possible
I am here to say. Low lifer's such as you should leave this planet. It is you with such comments suggesting all asians should be punished for certain who cannot abide with the law. I am a law abiding citizen with a good clean record to back up my claim. Never been a burdern on this country for handouts and never claimed in dishonesty. I am entitled to receive my income what the government has entitled me to. This country never became great just on it's own. It is the like's of me and other thousands who sacrificed our lifes and families to keep this country great. We only have to browse the pages of this paper and countless others compelled with news in relation to crimes and other law breaking incidents that are not asian origin related. Where does your demented mind stand in relation to this. Would you then justify your corrupt mind to punish all walking this country? This is your suggestion and your verdict for the innocent asian drivers who have never claimed insurance damages, and to target asians alone IS racist and YOU are racist

Go jump of a cliff you awful evil woman and leave this beautiful worild to other's who truly deserve it.
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: @unsensible How you can claim to not be a racist after saying what you have done in all your various comments shows how delusional and hard of thinking you are. Even in your last coment you state that "the type's of you should have been targeted with precision!" I assume that you mean law abiding tolerant english people who welcomed you and others like you into our country that you then want to destroy from the inside and turn into the same kind of third world country that you originally came from. Please leave our once beautiful country and take your violent and racist ideas back to where you came from. Do you not realise that immigrants like you are the ones that cause problems for the decent ones like faz25 and create distrust of non indigenous people. English people welcome decent law abiding immigrants and their descendants but we dont want the criminal, bigotted, racist, violent and intolerant immigrants like you here. Please leave my country as soon as possible[/p][/quote]I am here to say. Low lifer's such as you should leave this planet. It is you with such comments suggesting all asians should be punished for certain who cannot abide with the law. I am a law abiding citizen with a good clean record to back up my claim. Never been a burdern on this country for handouts and never claimed in dishonesty. I am entitled to receive my income what the government has entitled me to. This country never became great just on it's own. It is the like's of me and other thousands who sacrificed our lifes and families to keep this country great. We only have to browse the pages of this paper and countless others compelled with news in relation to crimes and other law breaking incidents that are not asian origin related. Where does your demented mind stand in relation to this. Would you then justify your corrupt mind to punish all walking this country? This is your suggestion and your verdict for the innocent asian drivers who have never claimed insurance damages, and to target asians alone IS racist and YOU are racist Go jump of a cliff you awful evil woman and leave this beautiful worild to other's who truly deserve it. sen c ble

1:30am Wed 5 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

I think that you will find that it was mine and the other indigenous peoples ancestors who made this country great and created the greatest empire that the world has ever known.
It was their intelligence, inventiveness and hard work that led to great discoveries that benefitted the whole world.

What did you and your ancestors with their racist and bigotted ideas ever do for mankind ?
Oh, sorry I forgot, asians invented slavery but we managed to put an end to that in the 18th century.
Asians also invented the caste system, suicide bombers and chopping peoples hands off for minor criminal activities, actually that would be a good punishment for you to apply to those asians that carry out the crash for cash scams that you seem to admire so much. Asians invented stoning women to death for adultery and throwing gay people off cliffs.

All these things may be seem to be helpful to mankind in your twisted view but in reality the things we invented like medicines and the industrial revolution benifitted people a lot more.

You have abused the hospitality that we offerred you by condoning the criminal activities perpetrated by members of your own race and have shown yourself to be a violent, bigotted and racist individual.

You have outstayed your welcome,
please go home and take any offspring you created with you, in case they hold the same nasty ideas that you do.

You are the weakest link, goodbye
I think that you will find that it was mine and the other indigenous peoples ancestors who made this country great and created the greatest empire that the world has ever known. It was their intelligence, inventiveness and hard work that led to great discoveries that benefitted the whole world. What did you and your ancestors with their racist and bigotted ideas ever do for mankind ? Oh, sorry I forgot, asians invented slavery but we managed to put an end to that in the 18th century. Asians also invented the caste system, suicide bombers and chopping peoples hands off for minor criminal activities, actually that would be a good punishment for you to apply to those asians that carry out the crash for cash scams that you seem to admire so much. Asians invented stoning women to death for adultery and throwing gay people off cliffs. All these things may be seem to be helpful to mankind in your twisted view but in reality the things we invented like medicines and the industrial revolution benifitted people a lot more. You have abused the hospitality that we offerred you by condoning the criminal activities perpetrated by members of your own race and have shown yourself to be a violent, bigotted and racist individual. You have outstayed your welcome, please go home and take any offspring you created with you, in case they hold the same nasty ideas that you do. You are the weakest link, goodbye Benjis mum

11:49am Wed 5 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
I think that you will find that it was mine and the other indigenous peoples ancestors who made this country great and created the greatest empire that the world has ever known.
It was their intelligence, inventiveness and hard work that led to great discoveries that benefitted the whole world.

What did you and your ancestors with their racist and bigotted ideas ever do for mankind ?
Oh, sorry I forgot, asians invented slavery but we managed to put an end to that in the 18th century.
Asians also invented the caste system, suicide bombers and chopping peoples hands off for minor criminal activities, actually that would be a good punishment for you to apply to those asians that carry out the crash for cash scams that you seem to admire so much. Asians invented stoning women to death for adultery and throwing gay people off cliffs.

All these things may be seem to be helpful to mankind in your twisted view but in reality the things we invented like medicines and the industrial revolution benifitted people a lot more.

You have abused the hospitality that we offerred you by condoning the criminal activities perpetrated by members of your own race and have shown yourself to be a violent, bigotted and racist individual.

You have outstayed your welcome,
please go home and take any offspring you created with you, in case they hold the same nasty ideas that you do.

You are the weakest link, goodbye
Typical low lifer unable to discuss the reason in question and as always side tracking to points irrelevant to the article and unnecessary and totally unrelated as far as I am concerned! Toatlly irrelevance from the place I originate from, but your post simply points in the direction of hatred for the asians and all foriegners residing in this country. You claiming to have originated from the caves and your ancestors as cave people, well cave woman what decency and civilised example can you show. Your preferance of animals over humans is one example what a devil you really are. Do me and all asians and foreigners a favour, get your death certificate form filled in and registered. The sooner you leave this world, the better.
Now get lost.
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: I think that you will find that it was mine and the other indigenous peoples ancestors who made this country great and created the greatest empire that the world has ever known. It was their intelligence, inventiveness and hard work that led to great discoveries that benefitted the whole world. What did you and your ancestors with their racist and bigotted ideas ever do for mankind ? Oh, sorry I forgot, asians invented slavery but we managed to put an end to that in the 18th century. Asians also invented the caste system, suicide bombers and chopping peoples hands off for minor criminal activities, actually that would be a good punishment for you to apply to those asians that carry out the crash for cash scams that you seem to admire so much. Asians invented stoning women to death for adultery and throwing gay people off cliffs. All these things may be seem to be helpful to mankind in your twisted view but in reality the things we invented like medicines and the industrial revolution benifitted people a lot more. You have abused the hospitality that we offerred you by condoning the criminal activities perpetrated by members of your own race and have shown yourself to be a violent, bigotted and racist individual. You have outstayed your welcome, please go home and take any offspring you created with you, in case they hold the same nasty ideas that you do. You are the weakest link, goodbye[/p][/quote]Typical low lifer unable to discuss the reason in question and as always side tracking to points irrelevant to the article and unnecessary and totally unrelated as far as I am concerned! Toatlly irrelevance from the place I originate from, but your post simply points in the direction of hatred for the asians and all foriegners residing in this country. You claiming to have originated from the caves and your ancestors as cave people, well cave woman what decency and civilised example can you show. Your preferance of animals over humans is one example what a devil you really are. Do me and all asians and foreigners a favour, get your death certificate form filled in and registered. The sooner you leave this world, the better. Now get lost. sen c ble

2:45pm Wed 5 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
Dear twisted and demented foreign person from the third world.
I do not hate anyone, either asians or other foreigners. I do however dislike some of the more ungrateful ones that live here and would prefer them to leave.

As I said earlier, I and my fellow indigenous brits welcomed you and many of your countrymen to share in our wonderful country. Unfortunately a few of them, like you, abused our hospitality and spat in our faces. Those are the types of foreigners that we would prefer to go back home.
Dear Twisted Demented Loser,
You may have failed to realise, but Asia and in paticular India is rapidly becoming a supe power already overtaken the once Great Britian. As you are unaware it come's as no surprise since most of your time is spent in your cave where once your mother and father and your ancestors were residing. When you do decide to enter into the real world your racist and demented comments will have absolute no impact and relevance to the modern multiculturalism world, that now exists and all previous fantacies and dreams will seize to govern, regardless if you do decide to back down and claim justice. Unbalanced and biased rulings that once were in force, dreamt up by the low type's such as you, will be deemed useless.
Yours faithfully
Sen
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: Dear twisted and demented foreign person from the third world. I do not hate anyone, either asians or other foreigners. I do however dislike some of the more ungrateful ones that live here and would prefer them to leave. As I said earlier, I and my fellow indigenous brits welcomed you and many of your countrymen to share in our wonderful country. Unfortunately a few of them, like you, abused our hospitality and spat in our faces. Those are the types of foreigners that we would prefer to go back home.[/p][/quote]Dear Twisted Demented Loser, You may have failed to realise, but Asia and in paticular India is rapidly becoming a supe power already overtaken the once Great Britian. As you are unaware it come's as no surprise since most of your time is spent in your cave where once your mother and father and your ancestors were residing. When you do decide to enter into the real world your racist and demented comments will have absolute no impact and relevance to the modern multiculturalism world, that now exists and all previous fantacies and dreams will seize to govern, regardless if you do decide to back down and claim justice. Unbalanced and biased rulings that once were in force, dreamt up by the low type's such as you, will be deemed useless. Yours faithfully Sen sen c ble

4:13am Thu 6 Sep 12

Benjis mum says...

Are you still here ?
I was hoping that you and your family would have packed your bags and gone back home.
You are not wanted here anymore.

Luckily my ancestors and those of the other indigenous brits that made this country as great as it was before mass immigration tried to destroy it, did live in caves.
This enabled the northern europeans and in particular the brits, to evolve into more intelligent, inquisitive and inventive people. This was due to the survival of the fittest and necessity being the mother of invention, as they had to develop and use their brains to survive their harsh environment

Your ancestors could easily just pick the fruit, berries and nuts from shrubs and trees and dig up a few roots so they never developed many skills other than fighting their neighbouring tribes.

While I have no doubt that multi racial socities can exist, as long as we can get rid of the bigotted and racist people like you, I very much doubt that multi cultural ones can. I dont know of any country in the world where one culture hasnt dominated the other.

I read an interesting article in one of the newspapers today about reintroducing the indigenous red squirrel to the west country and culling the more recently arrived grey ones that were outbreeding the red ones and they had brought a disease with them that they were immune to but which killed the native species.

How strange that what happens in the animal kingdom so often happens in the human one and vice versa.
If you look back to the Spanish killing the central american indians off with diseases that they had no immunity to and then becoming the dominant population by sending more and more spaniards over then by out breeding the natives.
Then the europeans who went to north america and initially killed a lot of indians off with smallpox then by taking over their lands and eventually through mass immigration and again outbreeding the natives, became the dominant population.
Australia and New Zealand did the same with the Abos and Maoris.
North America is going through the same mass immigration process again but this time with the Latinos fast becoming the dominant population by outbreeding the mainly european descendants.

Unfortunately I can see the UK going the same way with the mass immigration of people from Africa and the sub continent of India. They are bringing older diseases here that we had more or less eradicated like polio and TB and introducing newer diseases like HIV/AIDS. Added to their higher birthrate I cant see it being many more generations before the indigenous people of the UK and eventually the rest of mainland europe are completely outnumbered by immigrants and our once great continent will be turned back to how it was centuries ago, without the calibre of people necessary to bring it back out of the dark ages that we had before.

I will leave the last comment to you as I have no interest in trying to educate you any moren as I think you are too far gone to help.
You can now make your nasty racist rants against westerners, white people, jews and the japs that you enjoyed shooting without any further response from me.
Goodbye
Are you still here ? I was hoping that you and your family would have packed your bags and gone back home. You are not wanted here anymore. Luckily my ancestors and those of the other indigenous brits that made this country as great as it was before mass immigration tried to destroy it, did live in caves. This enabled the northern europeans and in particular the brits, to evolve into more intelligent, inquisitive and inventive people. This was due to the survival of the fittest and necessity being the mother of invention, as they had to develop and use their brains to survive their harsh environment Your ancestors could easily just pick the fruit, berries and nuts from shrubs and trees and dig up a few roots so they never developed many skills other than fighting their neighbouring tribes. While I have no doubt that multi racial socities can exist, as long as we can get rid of the bigotted and racist people like you, I very much doubt that multi cultural ones can. I dont know of any country in the world where one culture hasnt dominated the other. I read an interesting article in one of the newspapers today about reintroducing the indigenous red squirrel to the west country and culling the more recently arrived grey ones that were outbreeding the red ones and they had brought a disease with them that they were immune to but which killed the native species. How strange that what happens in the animal kingdom so often happens in the human one and vice versa. If you look back to the Spanish killing the central american indians off with diseases that they had no immunity to and then becoming the dominant population by sending more and more spaniards over then by out breeding the natives. Then the europeans who went to north america and initially killed a lot of indians off with smallpox then by taking over their lands and eventually through mass immigration and again outbreeding the natives, became the dominant population. Australia and New Zealand did the same with the Abos and Maoris. North America is going through the same mass immigration process again but this time with the Latinos fast becoming the dominant population by outbreeding the mainly european descendants. Unfortunately I can see the UK going the same way with the mass immigration of people from Africa and the sub continent of India. They are bringing older diseases here that we had more or less eradicated like polio and TB and introducing newer diseases like HIV/AIDS. Added to their higher birthrate I cant see it being many more generations before the indigenous people of the UK and eventually the rest of mainland europe are completely outnumbered by immigrants and our once great continent will be turned back to how it was centuries ago, without the calibre of people necessary to bring it back out of the dark ages that we had before. I will leave the last comment to you as I have no interest in trying to educate you any moren as I think you are too far gone to help. You can now make your nasty racist rants against westerners, white people, jews and the japs that you enjoyed shooting without any further response from me. Goodbye Benjis mum

12:15pm Thu 6 Sep 12

sen c ble says...

Benjis mum wrote:
Are you still here ?
I was hoping that you and your family would have packed your bags and gone back home.
You are not wanted here anymore.

Luckily my ancestors and those of the other indigenous brits that made this country as great as it was before mass immigration tried to destroy it, did live in caves.
This enabled the northern europeans and in particular the brits, to evolve into more intelligent, inquisitive and inventive people. This was due to the survival of the fittest and necessity being the mother of invention, as they had to develop and use their brains to survive their harsh environment

Your ancestors could easily just pick the fruit, berries and nuts from shrubs and trees and dig up a few roots so they never developed many skills other than fighting their neighbouring tribes.

While I have no doubt that multi racial socities can exist, as long as we can get rid of the bigotted and racist people like you, I very much doubt that multi cultural ones can. I dont know of any country in the world where one culture hasnt dominated the other.

I read an interesting article in one of the newspapers today about reintroducing the indigenous red squirrel to the west country and culling the more recently arrived grey ones that were outbreeding the red ones and they had brought a disease with them that they were immune to but which killed the native species.

How strange that what happens in the animal kingdom so often happens in the human one and vice versa.
If you look back to the Spanish killing the central american indians off with diseases that they had no immunity to and then becoming the dominant population by sending more and more spaniards over then by out breeding the natives.
Then the europeans who went to north america and initially killed a lot of indians off with smallpox then by taking over their lands and eventually through mass immigration and again outbreeding the natives, became the dominant population.
Australia and New Zealand did the same with the Abos and Maoris.
North America is going through the same mass immigration process again but this time with the Latinos fast becoming the dominant population by outbreeding the mainly european descendants.

Unfortunately I can see the UK going the same way with the mass immigration of people from Africa and the sub continent of India. They are bringing older diseases here that we had more or less eradicated like polio and TB and introducing newer diseases like HIV/AIDS. Added to their higher birthrate I cant see it being many more generations before the indigenous people of the UK and eventually the rest of mainland europe are completely outnumbered by immigrants and our once great continent will be turned back to how it was centuries ago, without the calibre of people necessary to bring it back out of the dark ages that we had before.

I will leave the last comment to you as I have no interest in trying to educate you any moren as I think you are too far gone to help.
You can now make your nasty racist rants against westerners, white people, jews and the japs that you enjoyed shooting without any further response from me.
Goodbye
Good riddance!!!
[quote][p][bold]Benjis mum[/bold] wrote: Are you still here ? I was hoping that you and your family would have packed your bags and gone back home. You are not wanted here anymore. Luckily my ancestors and those of the other indigenous brits that made this country as great as it was before mass immigration tried to destroy it, did live in caves. This enabled the northern europeans and in particular the brits, to evolve into more intelligent, inquisitive and inventive people. This was due to the survival of the fittest and necessity being the mother of invention, as they had to develop and use their brains to survive their harsh environment Your ancestors could easily just pick the fruit, berries and nuts from shrubs and trees and dig up a few roots so they never developed many skills other than fighting their neighbouring tribes. While I have no doubt that multi racial socities can exist, as long as we can get rid of the bigotted and racist people like you, I very much doubt that multi cultural ones can. I dont know of any country in the world where one culture hasnt dominated the other. I read an interesting article in one of the newspapers today about reintroducing the indigenous red squirrel to the west country and culling the more recently arrived grey ones that were outbreeding the red ones and they had brought a disease with them that they were immune to but which killed the native species. How strange that what happens in the animal kingdom so often happens in the human one and vice versa. If you look back to the Spanish killing the central american indians off with diseases that they had no immunity to and then becoming the dominant population by sending more and more spaniards over then by out breeding the natives. Then the europeans who went to north america and initially killed a lot of indians off with smallpox then by taking over their lands and eventually through mass immigration and again outbreeding the natives, became the dominant population. Australia and New Zealand did the same with the Abos and Maoris. North America is going through the same mass immigration process again but this time with the Latinos fast becoming the dominant population by outbreeding the mainly european descendants. Unfortunately I can see the UK going the same way with the mass immigration of people from Africa and the sub continent of India. They are bringing older diseases here that we had more or less eradicated like polio and TB and introducing newer diseases like HIV/AIDS. Added to their higher birthrate I cant see it being many more generations before the indigenous people of the UK and eventually the rest of mainland europe are completely outnumbered by immigrants and our once great continent will be turned back to how it was centuries ago, without the calibre of people necessary to bring it back out of the dark ages that we had before. I will leave the last comment to you as I have no interest in trying to educate you any moren as I think you are too far gone to help. You can now make your nasty racist rants against westerners, white people, jews and the japs that you enjoyed shooting without any further response from me. Goodbye[/p][/quote]Good riddance!!! sen c ble

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