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MP Jack Straw to complain to BBC over Blackburn estate's documentary portrayal
10:33am Wednesday 12th September 2012 in News
By Bill Jacobs, Local government reporter
MP Jack Straw has vowed to complain to the BBC over its portrayal of Blackburn's Shadworth estate
BLACKBURN MP Jack Straw is to complain to BBC governors over last night’s Panorama film which portrayed Shadsworth as if it was “an uncharted part of Africa”.
He is furious that the docum-entary sensationalised the estate’s problems, and ignored progress in recent years.
Having seen the actual film last night, he rejected BBC claims it was a fair portrayal of life on ‘Shad’.
Mr Straw echoed comments made by community leaders that ‘Trouble on the Estate’ depicted Shadsworth as a crime and drug-ridden community similar to Chatsworth in TV’s “Shameless”.
He said last night: “I shall be writing a strongly-worded complaint to the BBC Trust about this film. It is unacceptable to send a reporter from London who then treats Shadsworth like a Victorian explorer in an uncharted part of Africa.
“The estate does have problems, but so do many others everywhere else in Britain. They viewed Shadsworth through the eyes of a handful of well-known dysfunctional families and implied everybody on the estate shares that outlook.
“The few positives mentioned were simply fig-leaves.
“The film badly misrepresented the lifestyles of the great majority on the estate, and sought to sensationalise its problems.
“I have spent 33 years as its MP, and know the area extremely well.
“It went through serious problems in the 80s and early 90s – just as many similar areas did when much of manufacturing collapsed.
“But the area has improved significantly since then.
“As for ‘drugs, anti-social behaviour, family break-ups, and joblessness’ – such circumstances are not confined to classic estates.
“But these days there is overall much better social behaviour, and significantly less crime.
A Panorama spokesman maintained the film was fair, and rejected claims that residents had been encouraged to behave badly.
He said: “It is categorically untrue that the programme team sought to influence the behaviour of anyone they filmed, and certainly didn’t ask them to put up hoods, as is evident from the youngsters featured in the film.
“We didn’t edit out anybody on the basis that they worked.
“Indeed, working people are featured in the film, and we never interviewed anyone who identified themselves to us as a nurse. ”
Comments(90)
angel2012
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10:58am Wed 12 Sep 12
darwenTower
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11:06am Wed 12 Sep 12
He'd be better of complaining to the lacklustre police, the overly lenient courts and the benefits minister.
If only Labour could have a few terms in power to sort this mess out...oh, hang on, they did.
MrClaret
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11:06am Wed 12 Sep 12
shytalk wrote:There are jobs out there, just people like on the program don't or can't be bother to get one.
Go and live on the estate for a bit Jack and see what you think...And yes the same could be said for other estates in Ne Lancs...Thing is Jack if people had jobs to go to they wouldn't live like that, but neither you nor this set of unelected clowns we have running the country seem to care about that.
mastergx
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11:08am Wed 12 Sep 12
rhapsody
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11:14am Wed 12 Sep 12
Fire Fly
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11:18am Wed 12 Sep 12
What the programme did was highlight what the nation has been saying for years...overpaying benefits to people like Alwyn Page is ruining society & people like Jack Straw & Co are condoning it!
There wasn't one truly valid reason for her to be paid £1100 per month (an average salary for most) in benefits so she can sit at home smoking drugs, drinking (even her son complained about the amount of wine she put in that disgusting slop she referred to as 'tea') & then moaning about having to go to the job centre...apparently she was upset by that inconvenience! She, like hundreds of thousands of other up & down the country, is lazy & job shy...MAKE THEM PAY FOR THEIR OWN DRINK & DRUGS BY MAKING THEM GET JOBS & STOP MAKING US HARD WORKING FOLK PAY TOWARDS IT!
Add to this never ending pot of money for scumbags, the cost of all the social services etc needed to support them, the policing, NHS etc...politicians are draining the country's finances on people who simply don't deserve it...and clearly don't need as much as they get.
rhapsody
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11:26am Wed 12 Sep 12
mastergx wrote:He cant do that he would not last a week What good would he actually do Jack **** thats what.
Before Jack Straw starts bleating, I suggest he goes "Undercover "Boss" and goes to live on the estate for a week?
over-rovers
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11:27am Wed 12 Sep 12
RUinsane
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11:33am Wed 12 Sep 12
I watched the documentary and it didn't disappoint. Lots of trackie bottoms, blue tattoos and the occasional glimpse of Tyson the dog. Coupled with the mini moto's
Olwyns classic line, I can't get up for a job because I'm on medication to get me to sleep. Needs uppers during the day to get motivated after smoking weed, then can't sleep so takes some downers so can't get up the day after. Its a female Michael Jackson. Get up, at the bus stop, don't stop till you get enough. OOOOooooowww. Chamoine.
Brilliant who writes this script.
Hey Olwyn, I'll let you in on it. If you stopped smoking weed, you wouldn't need the uppers. Then as you don't need the uppers, you wouldn't need the downers afterwards, so that would make you able to get yer lazy arse out to work. Felt sorry for the kids.
Would have been better suited putting the Youth Zone in the middle of shad instead of the middle of town. Maybe they can build another one instead of wasting money on orbital routes and bus lanes.
jack daniels
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11:36am Wed 12 Sep 12
When you retire - and I'll bet it's in the not too distant future, you can look back and say that not only did I not stop an illegal war, but I helped to destroy a proud town too.
Don't let the door catch your @$$ on the way out
garydavies2304
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11:36am Wed 12 Sep 12
HarryBosch
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11:40am Wed 12 Sep 12
HarryBosch
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11:40am Wed 12 Sep 12
Brian Todd
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11:52am Wed 12 Sep 12
Brian Todd
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11:53am Wed 12 Sep 12
bburnrover
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12:00pm Wed 12 Sep 12
burner
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12:06pm Wed 12 Sep 12
wtloild
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12:10pm Wed 12 Sep 12
However you want to dress it up, by any measure Shad has had a much higher than average proportion of layabout adults and delinquent kids than anywhere else in the town (and most other places in the country for that matter).
Jack Straw and the Council are more than aware of this - the national statistics are backed up by the council's own internal stats and budgetary figures, in which Shad tops nearly all the league tables for dysfunction.
Rather than trying to spin their way out of it, a bit of honesty would be nice - there can be little doubt that they're TRYING to improve the place.
If Shadsworth is the fantastic, inclusive, caring community that Mr Straw, the Council management and senior Police have spent the last 24 hours desperately trying to portray, can they please explain why it deserves to be in receipt of so much more local and national funding than anywhere else, and why none of them live there?
norah bhatty
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12:11pm Wed 12 Sep 12
The TV documentary may not have done Blackburn any favours, but neither did some of the comments from people used for the show.
Bottle of wine visible, cigarette in hand, and depressed? Financial help for carpets and decorating and depressed? Income from benefits and depressed?
There are many needy people in this country at this time, and for genuine people, the financial aid is a necessity which I do not begrudge, but seeing people lounging in the chair, receiving benefits and all that comes with it begs the question - why should I bother working when I could possibly stay at home with a glass of wine and a cigarette and benefits rolling in?
Makes you think.....
superfly agaric
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12:15pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Jack Straw has been voted in consistently for the last 33 years and Shadsworth is just the tip of the iceburg when you walk around Blackburn and Darwen. Shad, Green Lane, Higher Croft, Livesey, Audley, Whalley Range, Corporation Park, Queens Park etc etc can all demonstrate that something has gone wrong. Seriously wrong. The people of Blackburn have voted this man in to ensure it is developed in the best way for its occupants and he has had 33 years to put his mark on the town.
It's no use writing strongly worded letters now, Jack. This is the town you have created. This is the country you have helped create.
Did you vote for Jack? Are you happy with how the town is? Was it better before Jack lifetimes work?
BurnleyBorn&Bred
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12:16pm Wed 12 Sep 12
and these people have the audacity to refer to people up the M65 as hill billies , now that is so sweet coming from this lot on shad
tntoast
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12:21pm Wed 12 Sep 12
angel2012 wrote:what better things as the "lady" got to do didn't look as she spent any time cleaning the sh****tip that she lived in .
To be honest I think Jack Useless Straw is a joke, these people need to get out and get a job instead of living off the state... As one woman said in the programme she has better things to be doing than going down to the job centre every couple of weeks and they should leave her alone, WELL IF SHE GOT A JOB SHE WOULDNT HAVE TO GO TO THE JOB CENTER. There is a job out there for EVERYONE, but some people are just dragged up and don’t care about their self or society and are just LAZY!!! Another one said she gets £1100 a month to live on and feed her two children, and will get her rent and council tax paid for... most people don’t get that a month and work full time. Maybe we should all go out and have children and live off the state if people are getting that much money a month for doing so... It is an embarrassment to Blackburn, and an embarrassment to this country… These people don’t work, but find money for drugs, as I said before the ‘LADY’ who said she has better things to do with her time than go to the job centre and who is on benefits can afford to smoke, smoke illegal drugs, and also drink as it shown her do in the programme, also her teenage daughter smokes drugs, So my question is WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE DRUGS, DRINKS AND CIGARETTES? Well us the tax payers are doing, benefits are to live of week to week and not there for low life’s to get high off. There benefits should be stopped and she should be forced to get a job like the rest of us working people…
wtloild
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12:22pm Wed 12 Sep 12
BurnleyBorn&Bred wrote:Two words: Stoops Estate
Were all these people in this documentary highly paid actors and actresses ? this program was like Shameless and Waterloo rd all rolled into one, i even saw that Jeremy Kyle got a mention, well there was a few candidates for that show, was a very entertaining show :)
and these people have the audacity to refer to people up the M65 as hill billies , now that is so sweet coming from this lot on shad
district01
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12:27pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Shadsworth is what 33 years as MP for Blackburn has achieved. These are the people that you were supposed to protect under a true Labour banner but you have failed all of them as well as the community as a whole. Would you like to live there in Blackburn for a few weeks stay Jack?
Question: Is the photo real or simply another Jack Straw make believe?
craignbburn
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12:34pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Shad, Blackburn, it's not even in the same league of crime to Leeds, Liverpool, East Manchester, Nottingham or especially London.
This TV was just easy pickings, no trouble to film. Can you imagine if this had been done on Liverpool? Aired the week that the lies of the media in the 1980's are exposed?
My second point is this program have had another aganda? There seems to be hysteria brewing over the lazy jobless wasting our taxes. Every day new stories about benefits abuse, highlighting the wrong doing.
5 years ago, we knew about it going on but it wasn't so hotly debated, when are we all so interested now?
This is all part of the plan to get us onside when more cuts come along
Commenting
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12:36pm Wed 12 Sep 12
People from a generation of families who were brought up in a benefit culture, who know no other way to live and who have never and will never contribute anything to society.
The benefit system encouraged by the Thatcher government and continued by subsequent governments is to blame for allowing these misfits in society to continue in this vane.
happycyclist
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12:39pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Delta Juliet
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12:45pm Wed 12 Sep 12
The difference is that Jack Straw wouldn't be complaining if the programme was about one of the other estates in Britain.
Take an evening stroll through the estate from the sports centre down to Intack bus stop then tell us all about the positives Jack.
nearly sane
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12:47pm Wed 12 Sep 12
wtloild
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12:49pm Wed 12 Sep 12
craignbburn wrote:Shadsworth in isolation is as bad as the inner-city places you refer to, the only positive being the relative lack of gun-crime.
I have 2 points:
Shad, Blackburn, it's not even in the same league of crime to Leeds, Liverpool, East Manchester, Nottingham or especially London.
This TV was just easy pickings, no trouble to film. Can you imagine if this had been done on Liverpool? Aired the week that the lies of the media in the 1980's are exposed?
My second point is this program have had another aganda? There seems to be hysteria brewing over the lazy jobless wasting our taxes. Every day new stories about benefits abuse, highlighting the wrong doing.
5 years ago, we knew about it going on but it wasn't so hotly debated, when are we all so interested now?
This is all part of the plan to get us onside when more cuts come along
The measure most commonly used is Indices of Multiple Deprivation looks at a whole host of data including income, employment, educational attainment & crime.
What makes Shad 'easy pickings' - surely it would have been easier for the BBC to visit somewhere on their doorstep such as London or Salford - backwater towns like Blackburn are usually too much of trek.
Maybe the sudden focus on 'scroungers' is because so many working people are now suddenly hoping to rely on the welfare-state safety-net they've been contributing to for years only finding it's tattered and frayed after decades of abuse by these scroungers.
The late Ian Smith, Former prime Minister of Rhodesia
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1:04pm Wed 12 Sep 12
The late Ian Smith, Former prime Minister of Rhodesia
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1:04pm Wed 12 Sep 12
BritainfortheBritish
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1:06pm Wed 12 Sep 12
The late Ian Smith, Former prime Minister of Rhodesia wrote:Agreed . But Jack has always been to bust looking after his main voters in Blackburn and that is the asians.
Well he would complain wouldn't he, Most of the scrotes shown last night are no doubt benefit swallowing Liebour voters, These are the sort of people who depend on straw & his cronies so they can keep succling at the state teat instead of getting of their skankey arses and getting jobs, No offence....
The late Ian Smith, Former prime Minister of Rhodesia
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1:12pm Wed 12 Sep 12
nil bye mouth
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1:20pm Wed 12 Sep 12
inless idiots and kids that are clearly the result of interbreeding hillbillys,The whole nation laughed at your chicken plucking hoofball club and now the whole nation has seen you for what you really are brainless interbred hillbillys ha ha ha.
makaveli96
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1:23pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Come on, your not from Blackburn, wernt born in the town and dont trump like the rest of us!
makaveli96
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1:28pm Wed 12 Sep 12
What next, the Fountain pub becoming a Curry house?
1rover
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1:30pm Wed 12 Sep 12
angel2012 wrote:your right nice one.
To be honest I think Jack Useless Straw is a joke, these people need to get out and get a job instead of living off the state... As one woman said in the programme she has better things to be doing than going down to the job centre every couple of weeks and they should leave her alone, WELL IF SHE GOT A JOB SHE WOULDNT HAVE TO GO TO THE JOB CENTER. There is a job out there for EVERYONE, but some people are just dragged up and don’t care about their self or society and are just LAZY!!! Another one said she gets £1100 a month to live on and feed her two children, and will get her rent and council tax paid for... most people don’t get that a month and work full time. Maybe we should all go out and have children and live off the state if people are getting that much money a month for doing so... It is an embarrassment to Blackburn, and an embarrassment to this country… These people don’t work, but find money for drugs, as I said before the ‘LADY’ who said she has better things to do with her time than go to the job centre and who is on benefits can afford to smoke, smoke illegal drugs, and also drink as it shown her do in the programme, also her teenage daughter smokes drugs, So my question is WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE DRUGS, DRINKS AND CIGARETTES? Well us the tax payers are doing, benefits are to live of week to week and not there for low life’s to get high off. There benefits should be stopped and she should be forced to get a job like the rest of us working people…
BritainfortheBritish
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1:58pm Wed 12 Sep 12
1rover wrote:And not only this but this country is still !!! letting in even more families from abroad to live off us !!!!
angel2012 wrote:your right nice one.
To be honest I think Jack Useless Straw is a joke, these people need to get out and get a job instead of living off the state... As one woman said in the programme she has better things to be doing than going down to the job centre every couple of weeks and they should leave her alone, WELL IF SHE GOT A JOB SHE WOULDNT HAVE TO GO TO THE JOB CENTER. There is a job out there for EVERYONE, but some people are just dragged up and don’t care about their self or society and are just LAZY!!! Another one said she gets £1100 a month to live on and feed her two children, and will get her rent and council tax paid for... most people don’t get that a month and work full time. Maybe we should all go out and have children and live off the state if people are getting that much money a month for doing so... It is an embarrassment to Blackburn, and an embarrassment to this country… These people don’t work, but find money for drugs, as I said before the ‘LADY’ who said she has better things to do with her time than go to the job centre and who is on benefits can afford to smoke, smoke illegal drugs, and also drink as it shown her do in the programme, also her teenage daughter smokes drugs, So my question is WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE DRUGS, DRINKS AND CIGARETTES? Well us the tax payers are doing, benefits are to live of week to week and not there for low life’s to get high off. There benefits should be stopped and she should be forced to get a job like the rest of us working people…
FCBurnley
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2:01pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Where do you live Jack ? Shadsworth ? Thought not
jackmetickler
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2:13pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Or maybe this part of town dont mean enough to Jack..... there not his type of voter after all.
bexter11
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2:22pm Wed 12 Sep 12
norah bhatty
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2:24pm Wed 12 Sep 12
He is not responsible for people quite content to reap in all the benefits available which keeps them in wine and cigarettes. It is the system which is wrong. One person included in the programme claimed depression. This might gives others an idea - Go to the GP, get some anti-depressant medication and then sit back and collect the benefits, free carpets,free home decor and probably much more. Wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a free holiday thrown in as well.
The people who have pride, and go out to work must fume when they see people who sit on their backsides and claim everything going. The more kids, the more benefit. Makes me furious that I have worked all my life, have not/do not claim any benefit at all, and then whilst watching a documentary on an area in my home town, I see how the other half lives. I ask myself one question - 'What kind of fool am I?'
guiderover
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2:43pm Wed 12 Sep 12
darwenTower
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2:47pm Wed 12 Sep 12
I grew up in Highercroft in the 80s, council estates were pretty much the same then as they are now. Full of lazy workshy scumbags.
Meanwhile the said MPs, who made all the promises to us, become (if they weren't already) millionaires on the back of their massive salaries, expenses and outside earnings.
No wonder during the recent riots a sizeable proportion of those on the streets were they who we would normally describe as decent.
notchuffed
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2:48pm Wed 12 Sep 12
i) The Man of Straw is bound to speak of his outrage as would MPs of any other town would so so if a documentary of this nature was shown about their constituency
2) Shadsworth and its residents are no different from any broad brush sample taken from estates the length and breadth of the UK. As the same can be said about High Street shops.
3) As one comment said "There will always be people of the worst. examples shown who will milk the system" This is true and has been so for the 70 years I have been on this planet.
4) Politicians be they MPs or Councillors have always made mistakes, more often than not not in touch on a daily basis with their Constituencies or Wards. This leaves them open to (quite often) pursue their own self righteous, self advancement ideas. More so making them toeing "The Party Line"
5) Defining where finance investment, practical planning and solutions seem to be as a result of (4) and never moreso in this PC age.
6) Shadsworth has suffered in the same way as many estates in many towns suffering a similar fate as e.g. estates in Burnley where millions were constantly being channelled and wasted into Stoneyholme where it was perceived that the Asian Community was being given priority. One of the "kept under the carpet" reasons for the riots which also took place in Oldham and others.
7) As long as politicians continue to follow the Blairite/Brown diktat to ruin Traditional Britain and the current incumbents keep following the same bent of multiculturism then places such as Shadsworth will continue to fester.
8) As long as weak willed politicians, Judges, self aggrandaisers and do-gooders continue to have the greatest pressure on our lives then people like the awful woman and her family will always continue to exist.
9) What needs to happen is efficiency in how benefits are distributed and of course the amounts. Practical and down to earth hands on help, proper jjobs with pay that is more beneficial than benefits and reduced taxation to encourage people to work
10) LASTLY; documentaries such as this would not get past any broadcasters benchmarks unless it contains some form of sensationalism. They use the rule that good news is boring and doesn't sell newspapers or programmes. In all fairness the voice over at the end stated that Shadsworth is typical of so many estates across the country.
QED; Politicians and Govts for the past 20 years "HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME"
nearly sane
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2:50pm Wed 12 Sep 12
FCBurnley wrote:He won't live in Shad and neither should he. He has worked hard, earned good money and made something of his life. Jack Straw is just one MP, all towns and cities have places like this. He cannot change the world and he is not responsible for the human condition!!
Truth hurts eh Jack. To use one of your more famous quotes ` Do the residents peel bananas with their feet ? ` Where do you live Jack ? Shadsworth ? Thought not
MORTEN GAMST 84
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3:07pm Wed 12 Sep 12
BRFC195
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3:16pm Wed 12 Sep 12
vicn1956
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3:24pm Wed 12 Sep 12
makaveli96
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3:45pm Wed 12 Sep 12
nearly sane wrote:Wouldnt a communist sytem even everyone out?
FCBurnley wrote: Truth hurts eh Jack. To use one of your more famous quotes ` Do the residents peel bananas with their feet ? ` Where do you live Jack ? Shadsworth ? Thought notHe won't live in Shad and neither should he. He has worked hard, earned good money and made something of his life. Jack Straw is just one MP, all towns and cities have places like this. He cannot change the world and he is not responsible for the human condition!!
A Darener
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4:00pm Wed 12 Sep 12
makaveli96 wrote:You mean like it did in Russia. Everybody equal there? I don't think so.
nearly sane wrote:Wouldnt a communist sytem even everyone out?
FCBurnley wrote: Truth hurts eh Jack. To use one of your more famous quotes ` Do the residents peel bananas with their feet ? ` Where do you live Jack ? Shadsworth ? Thought notHe won't live in Shad and neither should he. He has worked hard, earned good money and made something of his life. Jack Straw is just one MP, all towns and cities have places like this. He cannot change the world and he is not responsible for the human condition!!
Kermit The Frog
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4:18pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Blackburn must be so proud, how you lot have got the stones to dare call Burnley fans Dingles after that documentary proved that you Blackburn folk are all drinking from the same gene puddle.
notchuffed
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4:38pm Wed 12 Sep 12
WORK = measure of the work done by human beings
PARASITE = an organism that lives on or in an organism of another
POLITICIAN = a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles
JACK STRAW = Never done physical work having been a career politician from Boarding School to university to Barrister to political researcher to MP
QED
NON-WORKER = PARASIITE = POLITICIAN = DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSION
Also: can be defined as being A person who continually sponges off others, either friends, family or the state.
QUESTION: What have Politicians ever done? created work - NO. Created Wars, unemployment, unbalanced societies and worst of all WARS. We all know who created war in Iraq and Afghanistan for our brave soldiers and funded by those who EARN and PAY TAXES and we all know who helped.
jellybiff
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4:39pm Wed 12 Sep 12
LoobyLou369
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4:54pm Wed 12 Sep 12
What is there to complain about Jack??
They have simply highlighted the truth!! The programme was about run down and deprived estates like this clearly is!!!!!
Take note and sort it out instead of living in a dream world and taking this documentry personally.
If the government didnt hand out money left right and centre to the wrong groups of people Shadsworth wouldnt be in the state that it is!!!!!!!!
And as for the folk on the estate.... a bit of self pride wouldnt go a miss...........
FCBurnley
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4:55pm Wed 12 Sep 12
nearly sane wrote:He doesn`t have to change the world, just do the job he is paid a lot of money to do. Straw is a lazy jackass who only cares about himself.
FCBurnley wrote:He won't live in Shad and neither should he. He has worked hard, earned good money and made something of his life. Jack Straw is just one MP, all towns and cities have places like this. He cannot change the world and he is not responsible for the human condition!!
Truth hurts eh Jack. To use one of your more famous quotes ` Do the residents peel bananas with their feet ? ` Where do you live Jack ? Shadsworth ? Thought not
LoobyLou369
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4:57pm Wed 12 Sep 12
over-rovers wrote:Ha Ha
For benefit advice go and see Alwyn Page.
Although dont understand how someone on Job Sekkers can get away with not job seeking especially after clearly admitting she wont get a job.......
Maybe we could ask a neighbour of hers........ :)
fabinribblevalley
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5:16pm Wed 12 Sep 12
notchuffed wrote:Yes and Blair should be brought before the war crimes courts for starting the 1st and 2nd WWs. And don't forget the Iron Cow Thatcher!
I've just been doing what a lot of others do i.e. trawling the internet for definitions and have just found the definition of a modern politician
WORK = measure of the work done by human beings
PARASITE = an organism that lives on or in an organism of another
POLITICIAN = a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles
JACK STRAW = Never done physical work having been a career politician from Boarding School to university to Barrister to political researcher to MP
QED
NON-WORKER = PARASIITE = POLITICIAN = DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSION
Also: can be defined as being A person who continually sponges off others, either friends, family or the state.
QUESTION: What have Politicians ever done? created work - NO. Created Wars, unemployment, unbalanced societies and worst of all WARS. We all know who created war in Iraq and Afghanistan for our brave soldiers and funded by those who EARN and PAY TAXES and we all know who helped.
davidl575
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5:36pm Wed 12 Sep 12
huggles
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5:40pm Wed 12 Sep 12
andrea_chadwick
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6:10pm Wed 12 Sep 12
travel happy wanderer
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6:31pm Wed 12 Sep 12
LoobyLou369 wrote:If you gave half the people on that estate they would not take it. Like the one that said i have better things to do than go down to job centre no wonder on £1100 a month benefits, And the young lad that said he would not get a job because it would mean getting up early. Its time they did something for their benifits.
over-rovers wrote: For benefit advice go and see Alwyn Page.Ha Ha Although dont understand how someone on Job Sekkers can get away with not job seeking especially after clearly admitting she wont get a job....... Maybe we could ask a neighbour of hers........ :)
Well done to Andy and Vicky good luck to you and your family.
darwenTower
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7:26pm Wed 12 Sep 12
andrea_chadwick wrote:Mmmh, you keep telling yourself that.
I Know these estates and I have lived on these estates, Yes people live the way they want to live, And thats the way it should If these people are not gettting help that they need, what are they supose to do. If goverment didn't neglect these council estates they wouldn't be run down areas, And could help these people to respect whats not theres, And as for the Drink and Drugs It doesn't matter where you go in the country teenagers will be teenagers And the more you try to stop them the more they will do it. A lot of people today can brain function better when having a smoke (SPLIF/JOINT).
Your brain function better after a bifter?
kells1
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7:52pm Wed 12 Sep 12
BritainfortheBritish
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7:56pm Wed 12 Sep 12
nearly sane wrote:But ! he may be happy living in any muslim controlled area that he has made sure has had the grants and funding to thrive .
FCBurnley wrote:He won't live in Shad and neither should he. He has worked hard, earned good money and made something of his life. Jack Straw is just one MP, all towns and cities have places like this. He cannot change the world and he is not responsible for the human condition!!
Truth hurts eh Jack. To use one of your more famous quotes ` Do the residents peel bananas with their feet ? ` Where do you live Jack ? Shadsworth ? Thought not
kells1
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8:07pm Wed 12 Sep 12
DEO VOLENTE
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8:47pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Deus Vobiscum
ste.g
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8:50pm Wed 12 Sep 12
vicn1956
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9:24pm Wed 12 Sep 12
WHAT WAR ON DRUGS?
makaveli96
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9:57pm Wed 12 Sep 12
If you don't work you shouldn't eat and you should live on the streets (or maybe a seperate island, where all criminals are sent to)!
Why should I pay tax for this?
Its like the animal kingdom, only the strong workers survive!
Do you know there are people who have commited crimes, but still think they should be allowed to speak to me! ME, the Makavelion of 96! What is this world coming to!
makaveli96
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10:00pm Wed 12 Sep 12
vicn1956 wrote:Why do Drug Pushers have a right to even live in Prison?
If a reporter can find/film drug dealers why can't the police?
WHAT WAR ON DRUGS?
Why am I paying for such people to eat?
What next, my taxes paying for a southern olympic games?
Info-warrior
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10:48pm Wed 12 Sep 12
"quote: "growing up between drugs and hate" what a statement from that young lad..Elders should hold their heads in shame and pray for the foregiveness they will need on deaths door
The next collapse of world economies is only weeks away the EURO is about to go belly up taking the DOLLAR with it FOOD PRICES ARE ABOUT TO DOUBLE ..Stock up on long life foods before prices are jacked up..The price inrease in foods are guarenteed due to failed crops worldwide.Jeremy Grantham, “a closely followed value investor and co-founder of asset management firm GMO LLC” advised speculators to jump on land, water, and agricultural holdings because “a hungry and thirsty world is growing.” Grantham declared, “you can’t triple a population in a lifetime without consequences.” .
Yes, there are crops that have not failed, and thanks to their food distribution system, them w@nkers in North America will be able to get what they want. But there will be less food in the world for the rest of us, and in vying for it our wallets will be emptier. And there is also the breadbasket factor: all the people who depend on American-grown grains. They are the world’s biggest supplier of wheat and corn—sales of US grains really do feed the world. Crop failure in the US corn and wheat belts, also crops are stressing in the other food growing nations, which means famine elsewhere. When winter comes and you are paying more at the checkout, and reading about volatile food costs and food riots are kicking off in Europe Africa or the Middle East, and perhaps seeing governments tumble, this year’s desperate weather will be a big reason why...Certainly not some loser up shad scamming the system. And on closing I would like to say congratulations to the Panorama programme for depicting such an honest look at the difficulties faced by families scraping by on pennies each week and of course for showing that the only person who is earning any money in Shad was the off licence/shop owner. In a way I can see why Mr Jack Straw was a little upset about the programme going out.. THE BBC IS A PROPAGANDA MACHINE...who work for the government who work for the Banksters and they are trying to create divisions in what is already a splintered society. As a people divided we are weak but together we are to strong for them.. Together we could even topple the globalist Banksters who have driven us all against each other its not to late to save our lifes and drive these Banksters back under the stone they rose from.
Please Please Please Please don't blame the poor disabled unemployed or system players like those in Shad for the worlds demise. The Banksters are the ones you need to vent your anger at and together as one we could gain back control of our own destiny like we had before the deception started on 9-11. The people don't want to die starving on a run down council estates some people just want to earn enough to feed house and educate their children to the best of their ability but without our globalist leaders stopping all conflict and redistributing all wealth across the world we don't stand a chance of serviving the next coming decade "if we get that long".? before the human kull begins in..? Thats for another time....
INFOWARS.COM
THECROWHOUSE.COM
DISCLOSE.COM
If your a Bankster reading this and laughing at children starving around the world my inner energy is locked on your soul and I will be finding you in hell and you will be refused redemption for eternity. You have been warned Mr Bankster.
Info-warrior
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10:48pm Wed 12 Sep 12
"quote: "growing up between drugs and hate" what a statement from that young lad..Elders should hold their heads in shame and pray for the foregiveness they will need on deaths door
The next collapse of world economies is only weeks away the EURO is about to go belly up taking the DOLLAR with it FOOD PRICES ARE ABOUT TO DOUBLE ..Stock up on long life foods before prices are jacked up..The price inrease in foods are guarenteed due to failed crops worldwide.Jeremy Grantham, “a closely followed value investor and co-founder of asset management firm GMO LLC” advised speculators to jump on land, water, and agricultural holdings because “a hungry and thirsty world is growing.” Grantham declared, “you can’t triple a population in a lifetime without consequences.” .
Yes, there are crops that have not failed, and thanks to their food distribution system, them w@nkers in North America will be able to get what they want. But there will be less food in the world for the rest of us, and in vying for it our wallets will be emptier. And there is also the breadbasket factor: all the people who depend on American-grown grains. They are the world’s biggest supplier of wheat and corn—sales of US grains really do feed the world. Crop failure in the US corn and wheat belts, also crops are stressing in the other food growing nations, which means famine elsewhere. When winter comes and you are paying more at the checkout, and reading about volatile food costs and food riots are kicking off in Europe Africa or the Middle East, and perhaps seeing governments tumble, this year’s desperate weather will be a big reason why...Certainly not some loser up shad scamming the system. And on closing I would like to say congratulations to the Panorama programme for depicting such an honest look at the difficulties faced by families scraping by on pennies each week and of course for showing that the only person who is earning any money in Shad was the off licence/shop owner. In a way I can see why Mr Jack Straw was a little upset about the programme going out.. THE BBC IS A PROPAGANDA MACHINE...who work for the government who work for the Banksters and they are trying to create divisions in what is already a splintered society. As a people divided we are weak but together we are to strong for them.. Together we could even topple the globalist Banksters who have driven us all against each other its not to late to save our lifes and drive these Banksters back under the stone they rose from.
Please Please Please Please don't blame the poor disabled unemployed or system players like those in Shad for the worlds demise. The Banksters are the ones you need to vent your anger at and together as one we could gain back control of our own destiny like we had before the deception started on 9-11. The people don't want to die starving on a run down council estates some people just want to earn enough to feed house and educate their children to the best of their ability but without our globalist leaders stopping all conflict and redistributing all wealth across the world we don't stand a chance of serviving the next coming decade "if we get that long".? before the human kull begins in..? Thats for another time....
INFOWARS.COM
THECROWHOUSE.COM
DISCLOSE.COM
If your a Bankster reading this and laughing at children starving around the world my inner energy is locked on your soul and I will be finding you in hell and you will be refused redemption for eternity. You have been warned Mr Bankster.
Steve4x4
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11:04pm Wed 12 Sep 12
angel2012 wrote:Well said Angel...
To be honest I think Jack Useless Straw is a joke, these people need to get out and get a job instead of living off the state... As one woman said in the programme she has better things to be doing than going down to the job centre every couple of weeks and they should leave her alone, WELL IF SHE GOT A JOB SHE WOULDNT HAVE TO GO TO THE JOB CENTER. There is a job out there for EVERYONE, but some people are just dragged up and don’t care about their self or society and are just LAZY!!! Another one said she gets £1100 a month to live on and feed her two children, and will get her rent and council tax paid for... most people don’t get that a month and work full time. Maybe we should all go out and have children and live off the state if people are getting that much money a month for doing so... It is an embarrassment to Blackburn, and an embarrassment to this country… These people don’t work, but find money for drugs, as I said before the ‘LADY’ who said she has better things to do with her time than go to the job centre and who is on benefits can afford to smoke, smoke illegal drugs, and also drink as it shown her do in the programme, also her teenage daughter smokes drugs, So my question is WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE DRUGS, DRINKS AND CIGARETTES? Well us the tax payers are doing, benefits are to live of week to week and not there for low life’s to get high off. There benefits should be stopped and she should be forced to get a job like the rest of us working people…
fireonthemountain
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11:30pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Some of them are Bankers .
Some of them are the idle workshy .
I object strongly to paying taxes to either .
Liebour encouraged both .
Jack Straw is , well , polite words fail me . I have also similar feelings about
Barbara Castle .
Many , many years ago , when life was hard , and I lost my job when the company for whom I worked was taken over , I took the only job I could find .
I became a bus driver .
I have a lot of respect for bus drivers accordingly .
WOW - the worst route was Penny St to Shad and back .
Horrible in the morning (school kids -also known as "shad-rats") .
Ok during the day - when decent people got on . There were some lovely OAPs - really grateful for the bus .
Spectacularly bad at night .
Violent drunks coming back from Blackburn .
Prozzies going to Blackburn .
Quite a few drivers refused to go on that route .
Luckily those days are over .
For me .
What's the situation nowadays ?
gazzandste
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11:40pm Wed 12 Sep 12
Brian Todd wrote:Sick people? druggies lazy bone idle parents get real. Nobody is sick only self induced. By the way do you live on Shad?
I am afraid I do not agree with Mr. Straw. I watched and it seemed reasonably representative of the problems of low income sick people on the estate and many similar estates in this country
Info-warrior
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11:41pm Wed 12 Sep 12
fireonthemountain wrote:Sir: Your ignorance to affairs around your commnuity makes me think the globalists could have something when it comes to reducing the worlds population. Who would miss a burnt out bus driver..?
Yes I do blame those who play the system .
Some of them are Bankers .
Some of them are the idle workshy .
I object strongly to paying taxes to either .
Liebour encouraged both .
Jack Straw is , well , polite words fail me . I have also similar feelings about
Barbara Castle .
Many , many years ago , when life was hard , and I lost my job when the company for whom I worked was taken over , I took the only job I could find .
I became a bus driver .
I have a lot of respect for bus drivers accordingly .
WOW - the worst route was Penny St to Shad and back .
Horrible in the morning (school kids -also known as "shad-rats") .
Ok during the day - when decent people got on . There were some lovely OAPs - really grateful for the bus .
Spectacularly bad at night .
Violent drunks coming back from Blackburn .
Prozzies going to Blackburn .
Quite a few drivers refused to go on that route .
Luckily those days are over .
For me .
What's the situation nowadays ?
owdman
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8:08am Thu 13 Sep 12
Shame: that there are people living in such self-induced squalor, not in Africa, Jack, but on our doorstep.
Sadness: this will continue to deteriorate as there is no easy solution. Shad is not alone, there are similar areas throughout the country. Bit of a contrast to all the back-slapping of the Olympics!
Anger: parents who cannot and will not control their children. What do we expect when children are not taught right from wrong and see parents with no work ethic? We seriously need to consider conscription for people reaching 18 who are out of school and out of work.
katryn
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8:32am Thu 13 Sep 12
RUinsane wrote:Get up, at the bus stop, don't stop till you get enough. OOOOooooowww. Chamoine.
Superb that one Jack. Out of africa theory really does sum it all up. Nice one. :0).
I watched the documentary and it didn't disappoint. Lots of trackie bottoms, blue tattoos and the occasional glimpse of Tyson the dog. Coupled with the mini moto's
Olwyns classic line, I can't get up for a job because I'm on medication to get me to sleep. Needs uppers during the day to get motivated after smoking weed, then can't sleep so takes some downers so can't get up the day after. Its a female Michael Jackson. Get up, at the bus stop, don't stop till you get enough. OOOOooooowww. Chamoine.
Brilliant who writes this script.
Hey Olwyn, I'll let you in on it. If you stopped smoking weed, you wouldn't need the uppers. Then as you don't need the uppers, you wouldn't need the downers afterwards, so that would make you able to get yer lazy arse out to work. Felt sorry for the kids.
Would have been better suited putting the Youth Zone in the middle of shad instead of the middle of town. Maybe they can build another one instead of wasting money on orbital routes and bus lanes.
lol nice 1 :P
BritainfortheBritish
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8:42am Thu 13 Sep 12
A lot of people work and do not earn that a month. Why should they work to keep all these dossers .
bburnrover
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8:55am Thu 13 Sep 12
The problem started in the 60s by lenient do gooders ridding the country of both corporal and capital punishment and allowing rapists and such probation so they could go out and commit their crimes again.I sometimes wonder if Germany had won the last world war would we be in the same situation as we are suffering now with their intolerance of crimes against their views? Maybe we can count our blessings for living here in England and not having a police state ruling with an iron fist.
Happilyahandfull
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10:43am Thu 13 Sep 12
The late Ian Smith, Former prime Minister of Rhodesia
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12:20pm Thu 13 Sep 12
bburnrover wrote:Wise words indeed, Our Teutonic cousins would never have stood for this nonsense, Examples would have been made!
Well they picked on Burnley and Edinburgh regarding the high percentage of Incapacity and DLA claiments in those areas and now its Blackburn's turn to sensationalise a small ninority,
The problem started in the 60s by lenient do gooders ridding the country of both corporal and capital punishment and allowing rapists and such probation so they could go out and commit their crimes again.I sometimes wonder if Germany had won the last world war would we be in the same situation as we are suffering now with their intolerance of crimes against their views? Maybe we can count our blessings for living here in England and not having a police state ruling with an iron fist.
The late Ian Smith, Former prime Minister of Rhodesia
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12:28pm Thu 13 Sep 12
Happilyahandfull wrote:Good grief iv'e just seen her 'likes'
TO EVERYONE ABOVE WHO HAS COMMENTED ABOUT OLWEN PAGE, why dont you just post it on her facebook page - seems she has no security settings on it - OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR FAME THERE TOO!
Dossing on my skankey arse, Sponging on benefits, Avoiding work, Taking drugs
, Inviting TV crews into my badly decorated home, Blighting my childrens lives, etc etc
No wonder the poor woman can't hold down a job, She is just far too busy for any of that malarkey!
fireonthemountain
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8:51pm Thu 13 Sep 12
You may have misunderstood my post .
Maybe I did not express myself correctly .
I am anything but a burnt out bus driver .
(Though I have to say I am delighted I no longer drive a bus!) .
I pay a lot of tax .
I object to paying said tax for those who have never contributed . Hmmm sounds like scroungers and bankers again .
Not to worry .
fireonthemountain
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8:51pm Thu 13 Sep 12
You may have misunderstood my post .
Maybe I did not express myself correctly .
I am anything but a burnt out bus driver .
(Though I have to say I am delighted I no longer drive a bus!) .
I pay a lot of tax .
I object to paying said tax for those who have never contributed . Hmmm sounds like scroungers and bankers again .
Not to worry .
Happilyahandfull
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9:34am Fri 14 Sep 12
roya1710
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4:25pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Happilyahandfull wrote:Roya 1710,
Florida, Kentucky and Missouri have brought in a new test B4 u can apply 4 benefits - DRUG TESTING......... History tells us that whatever happens in America is 'trended' sooner or later here -------------------- PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE bring it here and trial it on Shad.
dont get me wrong its not only on the Shadsworth estate, but all inner Cities, these people are lazy arragont and work shy, What the Government need to do is stop all benefits to immigrants, until they have 2 years worth of stamps on their cards, make all benefit claimants work for their benefit, ie, street cleaning road repairs, cleaning the sides of main roads, get them out of their comfort zone, and if they wont get off there arses, dont pay them.
shytalk says...
10:43am Wed 12 Sep 12