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Pupils at East Lancashire mosque hit with piping

6:56pm Friday 5th August 2011 in News Photograph of the Author By Sam Chadderton, Reporter

ASSAULT Teacher Ibrahim Yusuf ASSAULT Teacher Ibrahim Yusuf

A MOSQUE teacher has admitted hitting pupils with a plastic overflow pipe to stop them misbehaving in class.

Married father-of-eight Ibrahim Yusuf, 52, of Preston New Road, pleaded guilty to four charges of assault while he was taking a lesson at the Grimshaw Street mosque.

Yusuf, a mosque teacher of 36 years, responded to some unruly behaviour in his class by striking four boys, including one with learning difficulties.

He struck out with a thin flexible two-foot long piece of pipe which was used as a teaching aid.

Part of the incident was captured on CCTV. Two boys aged 11 were hit.

Another was hit on his arm and one on his lower back.

One of the boys was upset and told his mother who found a red mark on his back.

Yusuf told police that he had been waving the pipe around to control the class and it had struck the children.

He said that he used it as a pointing stick and to tap on the desk to get the attention of the pupils.

The mosque has a ‘no hitting’ policy.

Punishment should be through exclusion or detention.

Yusuf has taught at the Grimshaw Street mosque for 10 years.

He was bailed by Hyndburn magistrates for the prepa-ration of a pre-sentence report.

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burner says...
7:04pm Fri 5 Aug 11

This is a regular occurrence in mosques in many towns. I know because victims have told me. They usually dare not complain. If they tell parents they are frightened of the mosque authority.

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Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
7:11pm Fri 5 Aug 11

I was at Ribblesdale Secondary Modern in the 70's one of the science teachers used a rubber tube regularly, so nothing new to me

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madari says...
8:12pm Fri 5 Aug 11

Madari the snake charmer says:

`......a mosque teacher of 36 years..`That made him 16 when he first started teaching in mosques...`(presumab
ly back home in the Punjab)
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What i would like to know is what training has he received as regards the `UK education system`..my guess is a big ZERO.

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ibby128 says...
8:20pm Fri 5 Aug 11

Deport....

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Faithless says...
8:46pm Fri 5 Aug 11

Bring it back. We need both corporal and capital punishment back in this country or its going to become lawless.

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Mike Costa says...
9:15pm Fri 5 Aug 11

Eight children? He has EIGHT children !!!!? Do they not teach contraception in the Mosques?
He should learn to keep it in his trousers

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hairy mary says...
9:21pm Fri 5 Aug 11

disipline is a good thing sureley, it never did me any harm

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Forever Blue says...
9:30pm Fri 5 Aug 11

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58 wrote:
I was at Ribblesdale Secondary Modern in the 70's one of the science teachers used a rubber tube regularly, so nothing new to me
Think Sir called the piece of pipe Genevieve yes it hurt !! ha ha

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slongio says...
9:52pm Fri 5 Aug 11

hairy mary wrote:
disipline is a good thing sureley, it never did me any harm
Not exactly a fine line though is it?

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useyourhead says...
10:59pm Fri 5 Aug 11

I would be more inclined to question what was taught than the method in which it was delivered.

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Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...
12:32am Sat 6 Aug 11

Forever Blue wrote:
Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58 wrote:
I was at Ribblesdale Secondary Modern in the 70's one of the science teachers used a rubber tube regularly, so nothing new to me
Think Sir called the piece of pipe Genevieve yes it hurt !! ha ha
Yes the name is correct LOL

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ramjam says...
1:08am Sat 6 Aug 11

Striking children like this is absolutely cruel, if someone ever hit my child like that they would get double back. I hope this man gets what he deserves, a sentence harsh enough to send a clear message to other imams they cannot do this!!! Hopefully prison.

What an absolute load of bs that he was waving the pipe around and it caught the children accidentally, oh please!!!

As a muslim parent myself I certainly believe this kind of behaviour in mosques is totally unacceptable.

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fkhan says...
2:46am Sat 6 Aug 11

I blame the parents of these children, the kids probably dont want to be in mosque and the parents cant be bothered to keep them at home....this poor guy ends up taking the crap!!!

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Seneca says...
4:50am Sat 6 Aug 11

At the very least he should be banned from working with children... how say you Mr Mulla?

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SP53EDY says...
5:01am Sat 6 Aug 11

I have known sir Yusuf larea for most of my life he is a great teacher and am 101% sure many other people would say the same may be better things we are humans mistakes happen my mentor has been teaching for years do u think he wants to lose his job over a petty lyt thing???

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makaveli96 says...
8:08am Sat 6 Aug 11

You would never recocognise him with that fake ginger beard. One of the best ive seen!

Where did it go wrong England? We thought them on the beaches for nothing!

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juanbbien says...
9:09am Sat 6 Aug 11

What's new I attended Cedar street infants school in the late fifties,were the teachers had a variety of implements to inflict punishment on you,such as a thick plastic ruler across the legs (you had to stand on a chair for this because she could not be bothered bending down) another male teacher with a thick plimsole named Percy,who made you bend over before whacking your backside,and the usual cane and smacks across the face with the open hand.This was all excepted as a normal part of a day at school.maybe in today's society there is a compensation claim here

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gudari says...
9:10am Sat 6 Aug 11

I had a teacher in Scotland who used the same method but this was 30-odd years ago! Don't these places have to abide by modern law?

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AnimalReid says...
9:37am Sat 6 Aug 11

Have you ever seen anything so comical - the funny hat and an orange beird!! He should be doing stand up dressed like that!!!

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Rover78 says...
9:55am Sat 6 Aug 11

makaveli96 wrote:
You would never recocognise him with that fake ginger beard. One of the best ive seen!

Where did it go wrong England? We thought them on the beaches for nothing!
It went wrong when the English can't even use the English language properly as they were never beaten enuff in school :-) it's fought not thought u bafoon. Your spelling means that the english had a thought off on the beaches. Basically as u seem a little retarded thought is to think, fought means to fight. . Understand or shall I get my stick out??!!!

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Rover78 says...
9:57am Sat 6 Aug 11

Mike Costa wrote:
Eight children? He has EIGHT children !!!!? Do they not teach contraception in the Mosques?
He should learn to keep it in his trousers
Yes 8 children!! I know a White family in Blackburn with 10 kids. Do they not teach contraception in these churches or what??!!

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Rover78 says...
10:00am Sat 6 Aug 11

useyourhead wrote:
I would be more inclined to question what was taught than the method in which it was delivered.
What was tought is Islam so what is to question u big chimp?! Think you need a good piping from mr Yusuf!!!

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Keep Darwen Green says...
10:56am Sat 6 Aug 11

SP53EDY wrote:
I have known sir Yusuf larea for most of my life he is a great teacher and am 101% sure many other people would say the same may be better things we are humans mistakes happen my mentor has been teaching for years do u think he wants to lose his job over a petty lyt thing???
Its amazing how many pillars of the community you guys have, they're in the dock all the time for one thing or another.

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district01 says...
11:03am Sat 6 Aug 11

Rover78: Are the family with eight children that you comment about devoted church goers or is your comparison just a way of trying to justify one mans sexual urges? It would indeed be very interesting to know the tendencies in general regarding abnormally large families. Are these large families planned or just consequences of selfish sexual practices!

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Seneca says...
11:07am Sat 6 Aug 11

SP53EDY wrote:
I have known sir Yusuf larea for most of my life he is a great teacher and am 101% sure many other people would say the same may be better things we are humans mistakes happen my mentor has been teaching for years do u think he wants to lose his job over a petty lyt thing???
Assault on children is not a petty 'lyt' thing. (I assume that means little)

It's illegal but lets not let a thing like the law get in the way.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.

ssshhhhuuuuusssshhhh
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DFRobert says...
11:13am Sat 6 Aug 11

hairy mary wrote:
disipline is a good thing sureley, it never did me any harm
It certainly didn't do you much good in the spelling line.

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Woody Riversider says...
11:29am Sat 6 Aug 11

Just another authoritarian bully. Class,colour or creed it just don't matter. This behaviour is abhorrent any day of the week.

Punishment can be meted out without resorting to this kind of behaviour from a supposed teacher of a faith !

Oh, & by the way keep the trouser snake in your pants or teach that in your classes ! How many more folks do we need in the world for goodness sake !

We are all here to learn from our mistakes. Let's hope this chap is big enough to realise his ?

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Nicco71 says...
12:50pm Sat 6 Aug 11

Rover78 wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
You would never recocognise him with that fake ginger beard. One of the best ive seen!

Where did it go wrong England? We thought them on the beaches for nothing!
It went wrong when the English can't even use the English language properly as they were never beaten enuff in school :-) it's fought not thought u bafoon. Your spelling means that the english had a thought off on the beaches. Basically as u seem a little retarded thought is to think, fought means to fight. . Understand or shall I get my stick out??!!!
I think the word is actually 'buffoon', or was that an intentional part of the irony?

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Keep Darwen Green says...
1:12pm Sat 6 Aug 11

slongio wrote:
hairy mary wrote: disipline is a good thing sureley, it never did me any harm
Not exactly a fine line though is it?
Look slongio, if hairy mary likes getting her arse pounded, its got nothing to do with anyone but her :0). Bring it back she says!!! It keeps her in check

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meeshoo says...
1:19pm Sat 6 Aug 11

ln the fiftys, l used to get the cane almost every day, mainly on the hand. l use to try to sit at the back of the class but the teacher had a sharp eye and when he said get your head down and work and no talking, he meant it. lt was was hard work writing with stinging fingers. Now days, it's you carn't touch me, l will sue you and you will be out of a job. l dared not run home and told my mother l had been canned, she would have give me a clip over the ear for showing her up, as a undisciplined child.

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Interocitor says...
1:51pm Sat 6 Aug 11

Brave parents.

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It's takes guts to bring such a charge against a so-called mosque 'teacher'. I'm all for people speaking out against those who misuse their authority.

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Woody Riversider says...
2:33pm Sat 6 Aug 11

meeshoo wrote:
ln the fiftys, l used to get the cane almost every day, mainly on the hand. l use to try to sit at the back of the class but the teacher had a sharp eye and when he said get your head down and work and no talking, he meant it. lt was was hard work writing with stinging fingers. Now days, it's you carn't touch me, l will sue you and you will be out of a job. l dared not run home and told my mother l had been canned, she would have give me a clip over the ear for showing her up, as a undisciplined child.
Doesn't make it right Meeshoo.

There as to be a distinction to what punishment fits the situation? My experience from the 70's was that these teachers enjoyed the pain they inflicted on children & yes I say children here ! If a teacher or whichever cannot control a class then they should be in some other work that is less demanding of their tolerance. The worm as turned unfortunately through the twisted & bitter behaviour by some teachers throughout the country as time as gone by.

I experienced an instance(s) at school were the teacher literally took out his anger on certain individuals simply because of a situation that had inflicted his life. No-body could have that much anger toward a child at school for purely 'talking' in class as an e.g

Firm but fair is the best policy & with a smattering of respect for all. Works wonders, I find.

Just a thought

Regards.

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HU says...
4:25pm Sat 6 Aug 11

This man is a brilliant teacher...

bring the cane back to the schools, children are out of hand and the only way to make em behave is they get from the teachers.. if the Parents cant do a good job then its upto the teachers.

You cant even hit your own children now without fear of getting arrested.. how do you keep em in line!

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NICEONESUNSHINE says...
6:23pm Sat 6 Aug 11

AnimalReid wrote:
Have you ever seen anything so comical - the funny hat and an orange beird!! He should be doing stand up dressed like that!!!
He was probably hitting the kids for sniggering at his 'ginger beard' .It's about 3 foot long and how on earth does he get it so straight and even?
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I suspect a pair of GHDs are behind this spectacle...........
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Wetwangman says...
6:57pm Sat 6 Aug 11

Forget all the insults about the orange beard, and how many kids this wierdo has... the point that is being missed is that the guy is a fricking looneytunes, a sandwich short of a picnic. Hitting kids with... what, sorry... a piece of piping... not lead piping, obviously...WOW, no....I bet this ginger beardie wierdie needs a wheelbarrow to pick up the child benefit, doesn't he...does he beat his own sprogs, and then expect the NHS to pick up the bill...does the nutter send his kids ( all EIGHT OF THEM ) to British schools, where they get free education, does he expect his local council to house him and his brood, and then, after they leave school, is each and everyone of those brats going to take away a job from someone who's family has been here since the year dot, and not just the last few months....I think the authorities should check his immigration status, and really, the LT should do a bit of investigative journalism, to find out, in POUNDS, SHILLINGS AND PENCE, this criminal is costing tax payers. By the photograph, looks like he is on to Capita, to see how much expenses he can claim for his day out in court. Deport, certainly, but make sure the hangers on go with the scumbag, too.

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useyourhead says...
8:04pm Sat 6 Aug 11

Rover78 wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
I would be more inclined to question what was taught than the method in which it was delivered.
What was tought is Islam so what is to question u big chimp?! Think you need a good piping from mr Yusuf!!!
That's what I said chump!
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I am more inclined to question Islam rather than the corporal punishment he was using to teach it, is that a little clearer for you?
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Islam - against.
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Corporal punishment - for.

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hannahk92 says...
10:52pm Sat 6 Aug 11

Rover78 wrote:
useyourhead wrote: I would be more inclined to question what was taught than the method in which it was delivered.
What was tought is Islam so what is to question u big chimp?! Think you need a good piping from mr Yusuf!!!
contraception isn't permitted in islam as it isn't in christianity.

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Seneca says...
2:17am Sun 7 Aug 11

meeshoo wrote:
ln the fiftys, l used to get the cane almost every day, mainly on the hand. l use to try to sit at the back of the class but the teacher had a sharp eye and when he said get your head down and work and no talking, he meant it. lt was was hard work writing with stinging fingers. Now days, it's you carn't touch me, l will sue you and you will be out of a job. l dared not run home and told my mother l had been canned, she would have give me a clip over the ear for showing her up, as a undisciplined child.
Well then, you're a prime example that corporal punishment doesn't work. If it worked you'd have never been caned in the first place(deterrent)

Failing that, you'd have only been caned once (lesson learned)

So, did it work for you?

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slongio says...
7:15am Sun 7 Aug 11

hannahk92 wrote:
Rover78 wrote:
useyourhead wrote: I would be more inclined to question what was taught than the method in which it was delivered.
What was tought is Islam so what is to question u big chimp?! Think you need a good piping from mr Yusuf!!!
contraception isn't permitted in islam as it isn't in christianity.
B.M.W chomper you seriously are boring as ****!! Can't even be bothered entertaining you any more!! Why have you not explained that you are white like you normally do about 15 times a week??

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RK says...
10:19am Sun 7 Aug 11

SP53EDY wrote:
I have known sir Yusuf larea for most of my life he is a great teacher and am 101% sure many other people would say the same may be better things we are humans mistakes happen my mentor has been teaching for years do u think he wants to lose his job over a petty lyt thing???
Obviously wasn't teaching English then.

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hannahk92 says...
2:51pm Sun 7 Aug 11

slongio wrote:
hannahk92 wrote:
Rover78 wrote:
useyourhead wrote: I would be more inclined to question what was taught than the method in which it was delivered.
What was tought is Islam so what is to question u big chimp?! Think you need a good piping from mr Yusuf!!!
contraception isn't permitted in islam as it isn't in christianity.
B.M.W chomper you seriously are boring as ****!! Can't even be bothered entertaining you any more!! Why have you not explained that you are white like you normally do about 15 times a week??
wtf i said that once because you were getting all egged on and being racist. You really are pathetic. Go and insult someone who deserves to be insulted.

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l m h jones says...
7:42pm Sun 7 Aug 11

Posters could possibly leave out the racism and acknowledge that this person has been arrested for assaulting children would the posters who cite the never did me any harm feel comfortable if this bloke assaulted their kids in the street? people who teach children especially those who have taught for decades surely know how to keep order in a classroom without physical violence and if not why are they teaching especially relevant i would have thought when teaching a child with learning. disabilities? The only lesson the children will learn is the person with the biggest stick is the winner..not a good lesson for 11 year olds surely?

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timeforcommonsense says...
10:05pm Sun 7 Aug 11

This is a half story. Dispatches exposed this kind of behaviour some 5 months ago, reporter Tazeen Ahmad. The other half to this story, as investigated by Dispatches, was the extremism being taught in Mosques. The fact that the teachings were that any non Muslims were the enemy and violence toward 'the infidel' is acceptable. I think this side of the story is more important than how they choose to discipline the kids.

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Merlot 1962 says...
7:00pm Mon 8 Aug 11

There is no respect for anyone these days, parents imrans, police,teachers. Kids do as they please with the threat of I will sue you, you will lose your job. They don't know what respect is.... they EXPECT to do as they please and get away with it. Sometimes they threaten teachers to say things even if it is not the case so they get there own way. It is a sorry state we are in when the kids are in control and they ARE!!! Plumbers and electricians now arrive in pairs as the threat of kids accusing them of stuff is a real issue. I'm not saying beat small kids but over the age of 10 YES they know right from wrong Yes they know what no means then bring back dicipline. The Imran could start with self diciplin by keeping it in his pants!!!

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f2 says...
3:18am Tue 9 Aug 11

Your right in what you say Celtic , but i think ALL teachers would have love to do what he did ! Thats why they went on strike at Darwen Vale ? Because of some kids doing there thing .I dont condone what he did but i bet they dont mess in his class . Cracking hat though !!!

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designer says...
7:59pm Tue 9 Aug 11

I would like to know ahas this man had a C.R.B check done!!! If you teach, look after any child then you MUST by law have one to see if you are fit. At the end of the day a teacher in a mainstream school would have been fired as well as ending up in court. I see its four counts of assault in my mind he should be made an example of & jailed but no doubt that wont happen

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