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Blackburn bar owner's bailiff 'nightmare'


A BAR boss has slammed “aggresive” bailiffs who have pursued him for three parking tickets — adding more than £1,000 in extra charges.

Ronnie Brown, 57, the owner of North Bar in Blackburn, said he and his wife Josephine, 56, had been treated “horrendously” by bailiffs from the Equita group.

In one letter he was warned that bailiffs will “remove property” from his home to “discharge” his debt.

The letter adds: “I will re-attend your address and may remove goods even in your absence.”

Mr Brown, of Kings Road, Blackburn, said: “I have been in the music business for years and had to deal with some unsavoury characters in my time but my experience with these bailiffs has been horrendous.

“We have been bullied and they have demanded exorbitant amounts of cash.”

Just last month the Lancashire Telegraph reported that pensioner Andy Miller suffered a fatal heart attack after being approached by a bailiff wanting to recover a speeding fine.

After receiving three parking tickets last year due to parking problems near the North Bar in Town Hall Street he attempted to appeal the fines.

But after the appeals were dismissed the council passed the fines, which had risen to £143 each, to the Equita agency.

When he was confronted by bailiffs each had risen to more than £366.

Mr Brown said: “I have paid the bills because the bailiffs were so forceful.

"I just wanted to get rid of them and get them away from my house.

"They sent letter after letter and confronted us face to face demanding the cash immediatly.

"I had no choice but to hand over a cheque.

“I was told that they would force entry to my house and take my property to the value of my debt.

“It was scary and has made my wife quite ill.”

He said he is now considering taking the bailiff firm to court to recover the “disproportionate” fine.

Blackburn with Darwen Council said that parking tickets that are not paid after repeated requests are passed to outside agencies for collection.

Bosses at Equita, the largest national private bailiff company in the UK, said they could not comment on Mr Brown’s case.


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HarwoodBiker, Great Harwood says...
5:27pm Tue 3 Feb 09

The funny thing is that (having had a few dealings with these tosspots myself) they ALWAYS say "We can remove your property, even in your absence" - even though, legally, they can't (unless you leave a window open or they have previously gained entry to your house).

They will also try and push past you once you open the door, as once they've set foot inside your house that's it.

They use intimidation tactics to try and get people to pay up. I realise that they have a job to do, but most of them seem to act barely within the law.

Best thing to do with parking tickets is just pay up straight away. They will get you in the end.

andy1, burnley says...
5:40pm Tue 3 Feb 09

A lot of these bailiffs want one good thing thats a good hiding. They are leeches and by law have to be invited in with what I gather never allow them in this is a mistake a lot of people make. Its about time these parasites where got rid of and made to get proper jobs. Telling them to get proper jobs would probably be out of the question cause likely thing is no one else will employ them. Baillifs = Scum of the Earth.

midas, burnley says...
6:12pm Tue 3 Feb 09

If people paid the fine then there wouldn't be any need for bailiffs!

slackerbtch, Blackburn says...
6:13pm Tue 3 Feb 09

So for the sake of paying £75, this idiot has now had to fork out over £1,000.
Deserves everything he got IMO.

onlyonesimongarner, ewood says...
6:19pm Tue 3 Feb 09

Ballifs are Scum
But in this case I have no sympathy for this Guy
He knew that they would arrive at some point and that he would have to pay up,

brian jones, Leyland says...
6:47pm Tue 3 Feb 09

It's his own fault. He shouldn't have ignored them. If he felt hard done by, he should have appealed properly. this story reads as if he just appealed to the council. He should have taken his appeal all the way if he thought he was in the right (which he may have been judging by the state of the PCNs issued by some councils). By not doing anything, he has brought about this problem himself.

He needs to get on to www.pepipoo.com where he can ask for some help on the parking forum.

Opti, Darwen says...
7:56pm Tue 3 Feb 09

I heard talk some time ago about the law being changed so that bailiffs could force entry into people's homes.

Maybe this is now in effect?

Toshy67, Blackburn says...
8:50pm Tue 3 Feb 09

i got a similar letter, threatening the same thing for so called defaulting on my poll tax, the fact numpties in the council sent the bill to the wrong address didnt register on their clouded radar. wonder if similar has occured elsewhere involving bailiffs who have fcuked up like BwDBC?

wacked1212, blackburn says...
9:23pm Tue 3 Feb 09

I'm not suprised by mr Browns ordeal. As a former housing support worker I often dealt with these people. On several occasions they have given clients a time for a "visit" for which they didn't arrive and subsequently charged £90.
The fees were withdrawn when the firms involved were confronted by evidence of the prescence of a worker at the time of the alledged visit. These people work on fear and harrassment and often get away with it because people think they have no rights. At the end of the day Mr Brown is not a criminal,so why was he pursued like one for three parking tickets? I applaud his complaint and hope that other people get the courage to do the same IT MAY JUST PREVENT ANOTHER DEATH.

midas, burnley says...
10:00am Wed 4 Feb 09

He is a criminal, he is a fine defaulter and at the end of a lengthy process of trying to get him to pay the money he owes, he could have gone to prison.

"due to parking problems" - does that mean he wasn't happy that he couldn't park where he wanted to park!! He gets 3 tickets and ignores them all. He appeals to the Council and gets more time to pay, how many chances does he get to pay his fines, which is money that goes to the Council to pay for OUR services.


spyderleg, blackburn says...
12:09pm Wed 4 Feb 09

midas wrote:
He is a criminal, he is a fine defaulter and at the end of a lengthy process of trying to get him to pay the money he owes, he could have gone to prison. "due to parking problems" - does that mean he wasn't happy that he couldn't park where he wanted to park!! He gets 3 tickets and ignores them all. He appeals to the Council and gets more time to pay, how many chances does he get to pay his fines, which is money that goes to the Council to pay for OUR services.
Another Burnley maggot who does'nt know what he or she is talking about.I just hope you get a little bit of the big brother treatment one day.See how you like it!

Little Diamond, Darwen says...
1:09pm Wed 4 Feb 09

Here is a perfect opportunity for the Telegraph and the council to give the public some useful help and information. There seem to be a lot of misinformation about bailiffs and their powers. I agree that if you owe someone money and don’t pay there must be a way of sorting the problem. At the moment there will be a lot of people who can’t pay and are not used to being in debt, and will not have a clue how to deal with bailiffs, who have some bullying tactics and do not seem to be afraid of bending the laws.
The Telegraph could put together a special report giving people a guide on what steps to take when they find hat they have a debt that they can’t settle. Also spell out the powers of the bailiffs and let the public know how to deal with them. The council should insist that the debt collectors they contact to collect their debts do not use frightening bully boy tactics.
It appears to me that the bailiffs are cut from the same cloth as “Doormen” or Bouncers as they were more aptly named. The police and local authorities don’t seem to mind that some of these men are bordering on gangsters as long as they get a quiet life. These bailiffs and doormen should be under more control not control themselves.
So come on Telegraph and Blackburn with Darwen council I challenge you to do a public service and for once, try not to sensationalise a story for the sake of headlines.


Robbie, Manchester says...
1:12pm Wed 4 Feb 09

1. he got the ticket in the first place and had chance to pay the fine.

2. he was warned they would come if he did not pay the fine! giving him more time to pay the fine!

he did not pay the fine so they turned up and did there job. if they are nice about it aka "oh please sir can we have the money we owe, no oh ok" then they wont get the money!

if they are like sir give us the money you owe or we will have to take your items.. then that will



simple answer!!! PAY YOUR FINE WHEN DUE!! AND DONT CRY WHEN BALIFFS TURN UP!!!! MUPPET!

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