Council gives permission for controversial Shadsworth hostel

Council gives permission for controversial Shadsworth hostel

Council gives permission for controversial Shadsworth hostel

First published in News

COUNCILLORS gave the green light for a controversial hostel in Blackburn to continue despite a warning neighbours were ‘living in fear’ of some of its residents.

Blackburn with Darwen Council planning committee on Thursday approved official classification of Shadsworth House in Dunoon Drive as a hostel/house in multiple occupation and agreed an upgrade of its facilities.

It houses 59 vulnerable residents (including the homeless, alcoholics and drug addicts) but will reduce that number to 46.

Tenants representative Jacqueline McGrew told the meeting: “People on Shadsworth have been living in fear.

“They have a right to live peacefully.

“They are in fear of some of the residents of this place.”

Mrs McGrew, chair of the Blackburn with Darwen Independent Tenants’ Federation, claimed at the meeting there had been incidents of drug dealing, of men exposing themselves and ‘undesirable’ residents.

Jay’s Properties, which owns two similar properties in the town centre, has promised major improvements, councillors were told.

They will strengthen a licensing system for residents which bans anti-socal behaviour, non-prescription drugs and alcohol on the premises.

There will also be a new management plan agreed by the owners, council and police with inspections by borough officials now the official status of Shadsworth House has finally been clarified after ten years.

Since 2003, it has accommodated people in personal crisis as a ‘house in multiple occupation’ under a previous planning permission as a care home.

Jay’s agent Deborah Smith said: “We are pleased the application has been approved.

“There is no police or council record of serious problem with residents.

“The licensing system for residents and new management plan will deal with any future difficulties.

Shadsworth councillor Ron O’Keeffe said: “I don’t believe people have been living in fear.

“Some neighbours of Shadsworth House supported the approval.

“There has been a bit of trouble occasionally but that happens all over the estate.

“There have been no serious problems recently and the new regime will tackle any potential ones in the future.”

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1:33pm Sat 23 Aug 14

flogemandwhipem says...

How many from Blackburn with Darwen Council live in Dunoon drive. I would like to bet zero.
How many from Blackburn with Darwen Council live in Dunoon drive. I would like to bet zero. flogemandwhipem
  • Score: 31

1:55pm Sat 23 Aug 14

jimpy0 says...

Mrs McGrew, chair of the Blackburn with Darwen Independent Tenants’ Federation - representing a dying dinosaur organisation left over from when they were "council" houses. It amazes many how you can have an "independant" group within a housing association that is heading towards being tenant led.
Mrs McGrew, chair of the Blackburn with Darwen Independent Tenants’ Federation - representing a dying dinosaur organisation left over from when they were "council" houses. It amazes many how you can have an "independant" group within a housing association that is heading towards being tenant led. jimpy0
  • Score: 17

3:37pm Sat 23 Aug 14

woolywords says...

The Council couldn't object to this, as they used it for years, as a dumping ground for their problem tenants.
...
Am I right in assuming that this Jays Properties, is the same one that exists on Bolton Road, that has either an ambulance or police car outside of it, every week?
If so, it shows how their management is more concerned with their income, than concerns of people in the surrounding area. Am I supposed to believe that this 'new' place, will be any different?
The Council couldn't object to this, as they used it for years, as a dumping ground for their problem tenants. ... Am I right in assuming that this Jays Properties, is the same one that exists on Bolton Road, that has either an ambulance or police car outside of it, every week? If so, it shows how their management is more concerned with their income, than concerns of people in the surrounding area. Am I supposed to believe that this 'new' place, will be any different? woolywords
  • Score: 26

4:12pm Sat 23 Aug 14

andy1 says...

Isn't that place the old folks home?
Isn't that place the old folks home? andy1
  • Score: 15

4:12pm Sat 23 Aug 14

andy1 says...

Sorry former old folks home?
Sorry former old folks home? andy1
  • Score: 15

5:21pm Sat 23 Aug 14

abetterblackburn says...

Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it.

Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?
Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it. Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn? abetterblackburn
  • Score: 21

6:36pm Sat 23 Aug 14

ConcernedOssy says...

andy1 wrote:
Sorry former old folks home?
Mmmmmm Closed due of lack o funding !!! But seems funds are available !! Mmmmmm !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]andy1[/bold] wrote: Sorry former old folks home?[/p][/quote]Mmmmmm Closed due of lack o funding !!! But seems funds are available !! Mmmmmm !!!!!! ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 21

9:49pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Excluded again says...

abetterblackburn wrote:
Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it.

Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?
As the Council owns no houses and hasn't done for over ten years, how are they meant to do that?
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it. Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?[/p][/quote]As the Council owns no houses and hasn't done for over ten years, how are they meant to do that? Excluded again
  • Score: 12

10:31pm Sat 23 Aug 14

trevhd says...

Should fit in well in the ares
Should fit in well in the ares trevhd
  • Score: 10

11:11pm Sat 23 Aug 14

woolywords says...

abetterblackburn wrote:
Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it.

Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?
Get a grip of whatever your manbits reside in..
Are you paid to write this?
It does not matter how high the walls are, they let them out..
****, ****, ****, you gnumbskull.
...
Oh yes, the people of Shadsworth are entirely safe, as we have the state-of-the-art-cam
eras, instant connect phones to Police and shedloads of other security stuff..
...
"A naked man stood spitting to make it work rubbing his "erect member" up and down the window as we went to school..
And you want this house, in a family area?
What kind of sick, perverted or twisted mentality, gave you the rights to even think that?
Or is it because, it's not in your back yard?
It's a good job that I don't live near you.
You propose that the good folks move?
Get a grip of yourself..
Let's do this...
...
Good people have to move..
They flogged their gonads off to buy the place.
Me and them are supposed to think that they'll get full market value?
Are you having a Giraffe?
...
Well appointed 3 bedroomed house for sale.
In predominantly perverted area.
With access to local, newly arrived undesirables,
many ex-cons and dubious others.
Don't see that shifting too fast, do you?
...
These people, have scrimped and saved, for many a year to buy.
Used, what little redundancy money that they got, to buy.
And you, at a stroke, want them to up sticks and move?
Because some Johnny-come-lately, has an eye for profit?
...
These people, with their Petunia, Pansy and Tansie gardens, were there first..
And if, to a man (or woman) took up arms, I'd be with them.
They neither want nor need this gross intrusion, (some say, escalation,) to their private lives, and that there is a place for these people, jail!
Valid in shouting, not in my back yard!
Many are related to Shadsworth, now well educated and beyond...
It's now time, to call in that debt..
...
As for the comment, 'There is no police or council record of serious problem with residents...'
Define 'serious' for me, as it's the little things that mean so much..
Begging..
Noise..
Fights..
Drunkeness..
Police raids..
Ambulance calls..
And that's just your other property on Bolton Road..
That you, "manage"..
>insert insult here
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it. Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?[/p][/quote]Get a grip of whatever your manbits reside in.. Are you paid to write this? It does not matter how high the walls are, they let them out.. ****, ****, ****, you gnumbskull. ... Oh yes, the people of Shadsworth are entirely safe, as we have the state-of-the-art-cam eras, instant connect phones to Police and shedloads of other security stuff.. ... "A naked man stood spitting to make it work rubbing his "erect member" up and down the window as we went to school.. And you want this house, in a family area? What kind of sick, perverted or twisted mentality, gave you the rights to even think that? Or is it because, it's not in your back yard? It's a good job that I don't live near you. You propose that the good folks move? Get a grip of yourself.. Let's do this... ... Good people have to move.. They flogged their gonads off to buy the place. Me and them are supposed to think that they'll get full market value? Are you having a Giraffe? ... Well appointed 3 bedroomed house for sale. In predominantly perverted area. With access to local, newly arrived undesirables, many ex-cons and dubious others. Don't see that shifting too fast, do you? ... These people, have scrimped and saved, for many a year to buy. Used, what little redundancy money that they got, to buy. And you, at a stroke, want them to up sticks and move? Because some Johnny-come-lately, has an eye for profit? ... These people, with their Petunia, Pansy and Tansie gardens, were there first.. And if, to a man (or woman) took up arms, I'd be with them. They neither want nor need this gross intrusion, (some say, escalation,) to their private lives, and that there is a place for these people, jail! Valid in shouting, not in my back yard! Many are related to Shadsworth, now well educated and beyond... It's now time, to call in that debt.. ... As for the comment, 'There is no police or council record of serious problem with residents...' Define 'serious' for me, as it's the little things that mean so much.. Begging.. Noise.. Fights.. Drunkeness.. Police raids.. Ambulance calls.. And that's just your other property on Bolton Road.. That you, "manage".. >insert insult here woolywords
  • Score: 15

11:13pm Sat 23 Aug 14

woolywords says...

for the deleted terms, insert a noise like tapping on the screen,
D-ink, Di-nk, Din-k
for the deleted terms, insert a noise like tapping on the screen, D-ink, Di-nk, Din-k woolywords
  • Score: 7

8:25am Sun 24 Aug 14

Ossyosssyossy says...

The "undesirables" have to live somewhere. Can't think of a more appropriate place than shadsworth!
The "undesirables" have to live somewhere. Can't think of a more appropriate place than shadsworth! Ossyosssyossy
  • Score: 8

10:51am Sun 24 Aug 14

ConcernedOssy says...

woolywords wrote:
abetterblackburn wrote:
Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it.

Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?
Get a grip of whatever your manbits reside in..
Are you paid to write this?
It does not matter how high the walls are, they let them out..
****, ****, ****, you gnumbskull.
...
Oh yes, the people of Shadsworth are entirely safe, as we have the state-of-the-art-cam

eras, instant connect phones to Police and shedloads of other security stuff..
...
"A naked man stood spitting to make it work rubbing his "erect member" up and down the window as we went to school..
And you want this house, in a family area?
What kind of sick, perverted or twisted mentality, gave you the rights to even think that?
Or is it because, it's not in your back yard?
It's a good job that I don't live near you.
You propose that the good folks move?
Get a grip of yourself..
Let's do this...
...
Good people have to move..
They flogged their gonads off to buy the place.
Me and them are supposed to think that they'll get full market value?
Are you having a Giraffe?
...
Well appointed 3 bedroomed house for sale.
In predominantly perverted area.
With access to local, newly arrived undesirables,
many ex-cons and dubious others.
Don't see that shifting too fast, do you?
...
These people, have scrimped and saved, for many a year to buy.
Used, what little redundancy money that they got, to buy.
And you, at a stroke, want them to up sticks and move?
Because some Johnny-come-lately, has an eye for profit?
...
These people, with their Petunia, Pansy and Tansie gardens, were there first..
And if, to a man (or woman) took up arms, I'd be with them.
They neither want nor need this gross intrusion, (some say, escalation,) to their private lives, and that there is a place for these people, jail!
Valid in shouting, not in my back yard!
Many are related to Shadsworth, now well educated and beyond...
It's now time, to call in that debt..
...
As for the comment, 'There is no police or council record of serious problem with residents...'
Define 'serious' for me, as it's the little things that mean so much..
Begging..
Noise..
Fights..
Drunkeness..
Police raids..
Ambulance calls..
And that's just your other property on Bolton Road..
That you, "manage"..
>insert insult here
Say it as it is Wooly Extremely factual and perfectly put Well Said.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote: Shadsworth has always had a bad reputation and the area will not improve until the undesirable residents are removed. Perhaps there is nowhere else for them in which case the council should conduct a survey as to how many problem makers are living there. Provide for the respectable residents up to date residences elsewhere and enlarge the Shadsworth hostel complete with security fences around it. Isn’t it about time that we got rid of Blackburn’s safe seat regime where the leader can continue bad practices without fear of ever being removed? Just what good has safe seat Jack Straw ever done for Blackburn?[/p][/quote]Get a grip of whatever your manbits reside in.. Are you paid to write this? It does not matter how high the walls are, they let them out.. ****, ****, ****, you gnumbskull. ... Oh yes, the people of Shadsworth are entirely safe, as we have the state-of-the-art-cam eras, instant connect phones to Police and shedloads of other security stuff.. ... "A naked man stood spitting to make it work rubbing his "erect member" up and down the window as we went to school.. And you want this house, in a family area? What kind of sick, perverted or twisted mentality, gave you the rights to even think that? Or is it because, it's not in your back yard? It's a good job that I don't live near you. You propose that the good folks move? Get a grip of yourself.. Let's do this... ... Good people have to move.. They flogged their gonads off to buy the place. Me and them are supposed to think that they'll get full market value? Are you having a Giraffe? ... Well appointed 3 bedroomed house for sale. In predominantly perverted area. With access to local, newly arrived undesirables, many ex-cons and dubious others. Don't see that shifting too fast, do you? ... These people, have scrimped and saved, for many a year to buy. Used, what little redundancy money that they got, to buy. And you, at a stroke, want them to up sticks and move? Because some Johnny-come-lately, has an eye for profit? ... These people, with their Petunia, Pansy and Tansie gardens, were there first.. And if, to a man (or woman) took up arms, I'd be with them. They neither want nor need this gross intrusion, (some say, escalation,) to their private lives, and that there is a place for these people, jail! Valid in shouting, not in my back yard! Many are related to Shadsworth, now well educated and beyond... It's now time, to call in that debt.. ... As for the comment, 'There is no police or council record of serious problem with residents...' Define 'serious' for me, as it's the little things that mean so much.. Begging.. Noise.. Fights.. Drunkeness.. Police raids.. Ambulance calls.. And that's just your other property on Bolton Road.. That you, "manage".. >insert insult here[/p][/quote]Say it as it is Wooly Extremely factual and perfectly put Well Said. ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 6

11:21am Sun 24 Aug 14

abetterblackburn says...

Well said woolywords . . .

At some point all those who live under the influence of Blackburn with Darwen council will have to demand that something constructive is done about the area named Shadsworth. It has a bad reputation due mainly to its out of date design from the period just after the last war. That upgrade is the responsibility of Blackburn with Darwen Council of which nothing has appeared to have ever been done to improve the situation. Is the area of Shadsworth going to stay as it is forever?

I wonder why Blackburn with Darwen Council gave permission for the controversial Shadsworth hostel to be based there in the first place rather than anywhere else. Definitely not next to Jack Straw’s away from home residence in Blackburn for sure. I think that the good people of Shadsworth deserve better than what Blackburn with Darwen Council provide them with. Good luck to all those who are demanding a better living environment!
Well said woolywords . . . At some point all those who live under the influence of Blackburn with Darwen council will have to demand that something constructive is done about the area named Shadsworth. It has a bad reputation due mainly to its out of date design from the period just after the last war. That upgrade is the responsibility of Blackburn with Darwen Council of which nothing has appeared to have ever been done to improve the situation. Is the area of Shadsworth going to stay as it is forever? I wonder why Blackburn with Darwen Council gave permission for the controversial Shadsworth hostel to be based there in the first place rather than anywhere else. Definitely not next to Jack Straw’s away from home residence in Blackburn for sure. I think that the good people of Shadsworth deserve better than what Blackburn with Darwen Council provide them with. Good luck to all those who are demanding a better living environment! abetterblackburn
  • Score: 11

11:48pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Carl_24 says...

Ron O’Keeffe is talking aload of f***ing sh*t he doesn't even live up here, he lives at the other side of town.
If he spent 1 week on Shadsworth he'd know there's more trouble going on up here than what he thinks.
Ron O’Keeffe is talking aload of f***ing sh*t he doesn't even live up here, he lives at the other side of town. If he spent 1 week on Shadsworth he'd know there's more trouble going on up here than what he thinks. Carl_24
  • Score: 7

11:06am Mon 25 Aug 14

:-)*_=¬^(~+/@:-) says...

its the owners that sell the drink to the residents, its a nice little earner for them.
its the owners that sell the drink to the residents, its a nice little earner for them. :-)*_=¬^(~+/@:-)
  • Score: 3

5:42pm Tue 26 Aug 14

EYESINTHESKY says...

You know, it's one thing for people to say Mr O'Keefe doesn't live up there but having read a lot of comments from people on these pages who have a lot to say about it ... I don't think a lot of them even live in the area or even Blackburn, themselves. Anyone can use wikipedia or upmystreet .... Or any other part of Blackburn or East Lancs.

Yep, Shadsworth as someone already said has mostly always had a bad reputation. Same as Roman Road. Ask anyone even outside Blackburn about those places and you will mostly get a 'oh that place' type reaction. Mostly from people who've worked there or have known the area in some way.

BTW I'm not paid to post anything and I doubt others are but it seems some posters do not even know the areas they post about. I would ask if THOSE are the shills paid to incite certain things on these pages. Used to work in Shadsworth and it was the same then as it is now. No change. Why?

Its not some hostel that's the problem its those already living there. Were the eople in that documentary about Shadsworth from the hostel, then? No? I am sure there are some 'nice' people living there. Oh, did Shadsworth not have drug, alcohol, teen pregnancies etc etc problems BEFORE it went there, then? Im not supporting it BTW.

But here's some comments about Shadsworth from a video Ron O'Keefe did.

https://www.youtube.
com/all_comments?lc=
o7z5lNdvSkMPsZcSty3c
bv9IsVSr6YUPrQr1cA1z
9-s&v=skmt2zhSSuI

Ask yourselves why do people put those comments under the video? Is it because they might live there or are very familiar with it?

Change comes from those living there and any area rich or poor. Not through violence or some American type 'taking up of arms'. Yeah, right. Are people actually that naive they think no one with the problems mentioned live there already? So, yes, just adding to them. Someone told me from BWDC a while ago that they do use the rough estates to dump people in. Those problem families. That came from a housing officer BTW. Not me. They did the same with blocks of flats in the 60s and look how they turned out? The movie remake of Judge Dredd comes close.

Did anyone kick up a fuss when the Telepgraph reported years ago that a known terrorist was housed in Shadsworth and looked after by the state? No, most just want to pick on vulnerable people. Most of whom often get ignored because it's much easier. How many of you drink, do drugs, smoke pot? Worse? How many of you support people of a certain right wing 'leaning' that promotes the hatred of such people yet are no better themselves? I can understand the fear part but its like people who throw stones at elderly peoples houses or disabled peoples homes but don't stop to think if that wa them or even why? Worse, actually.

I think TBH, instead of ignorance through fear, if people actually stopped living on the internet and learning through fear mongering fools about the world and actually start learning about people with problems like those then maybe you'd actually learn something. Yes, actually unplug your brains and talk to people. Same old same old. Nothings changed since the Middle Ages has it?

One of the best ways to enslave people is to get them to turn on 'themselves either through fear or by dumbing down to the extent they are incapable of independent thought and thinking for themselves. What? You mean, you didn't know that's what smoking or drinking alcohol was all about in poor areas? 'Slave to the Rythmn' and all that? Why do you think they put betting shops next to payday loan shops? Etc etc.

I digress.
You know, it's one thing for people to say Mr O'Keefe doesn't live up there but having read a lot of comments from people on these pages who have a lot to say about it ... I don't think a lot of them even live in the area or even Blackburn, themselves. Anyone can use wikipedia or upmystreet .... Or any other part of Blackburn or East Lancs. Yep, Shadsworth as someone already said has mostly always had a bad reputation. Same as Roman Road. Ask anyone even outside Blackburn about those places and you will mostly get a 'oh that place' type reaction. Mostly from people who've worked there or have known the area in some way. BTW I'm not paid to post anything and I doubt others are but it seems some posters do not even know the areas they post about. I would ask if THOSE are the shills paid to incite certain things on these pages. Used to work in Shadsworth and it was the same then as it is now. No change. Why? Its not some hostel that's the problem its those already living there. Were the eople in that documentary about Shadsworth from the hostel, then? No? I am sure there are some 'nice' people living there. Oh, did Shadsworth not have drug, alcohol, teen pregnancies etc etc problems BEFORE it went there, then? Im not supporting it BTW. But here's some comments about Shadsworth from a video Ron O'Keefe did. https://www.youtube. com/all_comments?lc= o7z5lNdvSkMPsZcSty3c bv9IsVSr6YUPrQr1cA1z 9-s&v=skmt2zhSSuI Ask yourselves why do people put those comments under the video? Is it because they might live there or are very familiar with it? Change comes from those living there and any area rich or poor. Not through violence or some American type 'taking up of arms'. Yeah, right. Are people actually that naive they think no one with the problems mentioned live there already? So, yes, just adding to them. Someone told me from BWDC a while ago that they do use the rough estates to dump people in. Those problem families. That came from a housing officer BTW. Not me. They did the same with blocks of flats in the 60s and look how they turned out? The movie remake of Judge Dredd comes close. Did anyone kick up a fuss when the Telepgraph reported years ago that a known terrorist was housed in Shadsworth and looked after by the state? No, most just want to pick on vulnerable people. Most of whom often get ignored because it's much easier. How many of you drink, do drugs, smoke pot? Worse? How many of you support people of a certain right wing 'leaning' that promotes the hatred of such people yet are no better themselves? I can understand the fear part but its like people who throw stones at elderly peoples houses or disabled peoples homes but don't stop to think if that wa them or even why? Worse, actually. I think TBH, instead of ignorance through fear, if people actually stopped living on the internet and learning through fear mongering fools about the world and actually start learning about people with problems like those then maybe you'd actually learn something. Yes, actually unplug your brains and talk to people. Same old same old. Nothings changed since the Middle Ages has it? One of the best ways to enslave people is to get them to turn on 'themselves either through fear or by dumbing down to the extent they are incapable of independent thought and thinking for themselves. What? You mean, you didn't know that's what smoking or drinking alcohol was all about in poor areas? 'Slave to the Rythmn' and all that? Why do you think they put betting shops next to payday loan shops? Etc etc. I digress. EYESINTHESKY
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Cimbri says...

I once took possession of a council house, in a 'sinkhole' estate.
My father and brother dropped off some boxes, containing wallpaper and ceiling tiles. That same night, the house was burgled.
Nothing was stolen, they decided to defecate and urinate over those boxes but I took it on the chin..
My brother installed a burglar alarm and informed the neighbours, to no avail, as again, it was burgled.
Before me and my wife moved in, that house was burgled 4 times.
So there is nothing that you can teach me about these places.

This was a long time ago. Long enough, that my wife used to babysit the former landlord of the Gladstone Arms in this town. Where he gave up this town, moved back home, to make a great success, of one of the roughest pubs.

All these estates take, is for enough spineless people to band together, to insist that there is a policeman on the street, at all hours of the day, until crime becomes a thing of the past.
To pass to them, that make them live in it, fear. Fear of what is right and not their wrong-doings!
For dens of the feral child's homes to be given an ASBO. Where parents face eviction, if they cannot control their young. To put the onus of control, upon them and not us. And, if that fails, a complete curfew on children in that area, unless accompanied by an adult, until order is restored.
Don't think this is Draconian, nor possible. The Gov't enacted laws on terror in less time. Are these children not terrorising estates? Where is the difference?
I see none!
Were it me, I'd have gripped this place for the greater good, by using it as a place of detention for the rats.. Allowing them only out to go to school, occasional family visits and little else.
Therefore, with this fait accompli, you should treat all of the residents with extreme caution, watching their every move, until such times as they prove themselves to be, no threat.
The price of your freedom is, eternal vigilance..
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is, that good men, do nothing!

This was a party political message, from the hang 'em, flog 'em and whip 'em party. Where greater strokes, make for better folks.
I once took possession of a council house, in a 'sinkhole' estate. My father and brother dropped off some boxes, containing wallpaper and ceiling tiles. That same night, the house was burgled. Nothing was stolen, they decided to defecate and urinate over those boxes but I took it on the chin.. My brother installed a burglar alarm and informed the neighbours, to no avail, as again, it was burgled. Before me and my wife moved in, that house was burgled 4 times. So there is nothing that you can teach me about these places. This was a long time ago. Long enough, that my wife used to babysit the former landlord of the Gladstone Arms in this town. Where he gave up this town, moved back home, to make a great success, of one of the roughest pubs. All these estates take, is for enough spineless people to band together, to insist that there is a policeman on the street, at all hours of the day, until crime becomes a thing of the past. To pass to them, that make them live in it, fear. Fear of what is right and not their wrong-doings! For dens of the feral child's homes to be given an ASBO. Where parents face eviction, if they cannot control their young. To put the onus of control, upon them and not us. And, if that fails, a complete curfew on children in that area, unless accompanied by an adult, until order is restored. Don't think this is Draconian, nor possible. The Gov't enacted laws on terror in less time. Are these children not terrorising estates? Where is the difference? I see none! Were it me, I'd have gripped this place for the greater good, by using it as a place of detention for the rats.. Allowing them only out to go to school, occasional family visits and little else. Therefore, with this fait accompli, you should treat all of the residents with extreme caution, watching their every move, until such times as they prove themselves to be, no threat. The price of your freedom is, eternal vigilance.. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is, that good men, do nothing! This was a party political message, from the hang 'em, flog 'em and whip 'em party. Where greater strokes, make for better folks. Cimbri
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