Lancashire Police commissioner facing new expenses probe

Blackburn Citizen: Clive Grunshaw Clive Grunshaw

LANCASHIRE Police and Crime Commissioner Clive Grunshaw will face a second official investigation into his expenses, it was decided yesterday.

The county’s Police and Crime Panel set up a special complaints sub-committee to look at how he was mistakenly paid £796.70 in excess mileage expenses.

It will also examine how he claimed 26 miles for travel between Preston and Blackburn on one occasion and 58 on another.

Mr Grunshaw, whose first 13 months in post were overshadowed by an Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) inquiry into expenses as a county councillor before his November 2012 election, welcomed the new probe and was confident he would be vindicated again.

Last month, the Lancashire Telegraph revealed the second expenses bungle when he was paid the wrong amount for mileage in his police fleet car.

Mr Grunshaw paid the cash back but faced calls for his resignation from MPs. At yesterday’s meeting of the panel which oversees his work, Mr Grunshaw said he had been overpaid on 11 occasions between January 2013 and June 2014 through a ‘clerical error’ and had repaid the sum as soon as he was notified.

Panel chair and Blackburn with Darwen Council leader Kate Hollern told the meeting she had decided to set up the special sub-committee after the Lancashire Telegraph revelations even though there had been no official complaint. She said it had the power to refer the issue to the IPCC if necessary.

The sub-comittee will also consider a claim by Tory panel member Peter Gibson that Mr Grunshaw claimed 26 miles for one trip to Blackburn and 58 for another.

Coun Gibson questioned Mr Grunshaw’s decision to grant his chief executive Miranda Carruthers-Watt voluntary redundancy and appoint Lancashire County Council officer Ann Pennell as interim replacement without reference to the panel. The panel’s legal officers will check its procedural correctness.

Mr Grunshaw said: “I welcome the sub-committee investigation. I am confident it will conclude I have told the truth.

“I will look into the two claims for travel to Blackburn.”

Coun Gibson, who will sit on the special sub-committee, said: “I will ensure there is proper scrutiny.”

Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson said: “I welcome this probe. I hope it is done properly.”

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10:07am Tue 8 Jul 14

Izanears says...

As many others have said, P&CC's are a waste of time and money.
As many others have said, P&CC's are a waste of time and money. Izanears
  • Score: 19

8:59pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Paul The Octopus Lives! says...

Well done Mr Grunshaw.

It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses.

How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour?

Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst).

Either way I think it's time for you to go.
Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go. Paul The Octopus Lives!
  • Score: 13

9:07pm Tue 8 Jul 14

glossopkid says...

Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
Well done Mr Grunshaw.

It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses.

How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour?

Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst).

Either way I think it's time for you to go.
What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again!
[quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.[/p][/quote]What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again! glossopkid
  • Score: -1

10:12pm Tue 8 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

glossopkid wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
Well done Mr Grunshaw.

It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses.

How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour?

Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst).

Either way I think it's time for you to go.
What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again!
The police always look out for one of their own.

I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own".
I bet they can't wait to get him out.
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.[/p][/quote]What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again![/p][/quote]The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 5

8:52am Wed 9 Jul 14

glossopkid says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
Well done Mr Grunshaw.

It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses.

How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour?

Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst).

Either way I think it's time for you to go.
What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again!
The police always look out for one of their own.

I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own".
I bet they can't wait to get him out.
You would know this because your a police officer????
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.[/p][/quote]What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again![/p][/quote]The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.[/p][/quote]You would know this because your a police officer???? glossopkid
  • Score: -2

9:23pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Paul The Octopus Lives! says...

glossopkid wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.
What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again!
The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.
You would know this because your a police officer????
No - he is just probably someone who can spell "you're."
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.[/p][/quote]What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again![/p][/quote]The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.[/p][/quote]You would know this because your a police officer????[/p][/quote]No - he is just probably someone who can spell "you're." Paul The Octopus Lives!
  • Score: -1

11:51pm Wed 9 Jul 14

glossopkid says...

Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.
What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again!
The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.
You would know this because your a police officer????
No - he is just probably someone who can spell "you're."
Thanks for letting me know, smarty a$$!!!
[quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.[/p][/quote]What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again![/p][/quote]The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.[/p][/quote]You would know this because your a police officer????[/p][/quote]No - he is just probably someone who can spell "you're."[/p][/quote]Thanks for letting me know, smarty a$$!!! glossopkid
  • Score: 2

9:21pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Paul The Octopus Lives! says...

glossopkid wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
The Seagull has landed wrote:
glossopkid wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.
What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again!
The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.
You would know this because your a police officer????
No - he is just probably someone who can spell "you're."
Thanks for letting me know, smarty a$$!!!
You're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glossopkid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Well done Mr Grunshaw. It is a time when the police are facing massive cuts to their budgets and have to watch every penny. You have shown us that you are a buffoon who cannot even claim the correct expenses. How is it though that EVERY time you are caught (and yes I do mean caught) claiming the wrong expenses it has fallen massively in your favour? Lancashire Constabulary has a proud tradition. Before you were elected by a tiny turnout it was named the best police force in the country. All you have added to this throughout your tenure is to drag it into the mud with your dodgy claims. Lancashire people believe the police are being run by someone who is incompetent (at best) or a thief (at worst). Either way I think it's time for you to go.[/p][/quote]What world do you live in? The police always watch out for one of their own and the Cps will once again not want to prosecute. Therefore a waste of time and money. A useless exercise once again![/p][/quote]The police always look out for one of their own. I hardly think that you can call a politician that was voted in by a tiny minority, who wasn't/isn't wanted by rank and file cops and the top brass, "one of their own". I bet they can't wait to get him out.[/p][/quote]You would know this because your a police officer????[/p][/quote]No - he is just probably someone who can spell "you're."[/p][/quote]Thanks for letting me know, smarty a$$!!![/p][/quote]You're welcome. Paul The Octopus Lives!
  • Score: 0

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