Family left shocked after man dies following Royal Blackburn Hospital drip error

Blackburn Citizen: Paul Shaw died after a blunder at the Royal Blackburn Hospital Paul Shaw died after a blunder at the Royal Blackburn Hospital

A GRIEVING man has demanded answers after his brother died following a hospital error.

Paul Shaw, 50, died after an intravenous drip was wrongly inserted into his neck at Royal Blackburn Hospital, an inquest was told.

The incident sparked an investigation at the hospital and the inquest, which was opened and adjourned last week, heard the mistake contributed towards the commis chef’s death.

Speaking for the first time, younger brother Mark told of his shock when doctors explained his sibling was dying.

He said his family would now be looking for answers after the tragedy.

The 46-year-old said: “They asked us to go in a room with a senior consultant or manager, who told us that Paul was in a poorly condition.

“His bowels were not working and the next step was an operation, but things had taken a turn and he had a massive stroke after them putting an intravenous line in wrong.

“They said he was dying because his brain was swelling with blood.

“They said the kindest thing was to switch the machines off, and my mum gave the permission for them to do that.

“When they turned everything off and took the tubes out, within one breath he had stopped breathing.”

Last week’s inquest revealed Mr Shaw died after an intravenous drip was inserted into his carotid artery, which carries blood to the brain, instead of inserting it into his jugular vein.

The court was told Mr Shaw, who lived in Edisford Road, Clitheroe, died from a stroke, a blood clot, and the insertion of the vascular line.

Vasopressin treatment, which is administered to control the increased flow of urine in people suffering from diabetes insipidus, but can also cause narrowing of the arteries, was also said to be a contributory factor.

Sheffield-born Mr Shaw was admitted to hospital on May 20 for a hernia operation.

He was later scheduled to have an operation on his bowels, his brother said.

But Mr Shaw died on May 30 after the line was wrongly inserted.

His brother, Mr Shaw, who lives in Rotherham, said: “We are looking for answers.

“I have spoken to a solicitor for advice. “We got the apology from the consultant, but apart from that we have not heard anything from them whatsoever.

“Paul was always considerate, giving and kind-hearted and had close family ties.

“He trained as a commis chef and later in life had an entrepreneurial aptitude towards crafts, making ornamental garden furniture.

“In the last few years he had a keen interest in woodcraft and recently had taken up a passion for digital photography and photo editing.

“He also still loved to listen to dance music and had a large collection of CDs.

“Paul’s sudden and tragic death has been a tremendous shock to the family and he will be greatly missed.”

Health bosses said an investigation was under way, but refused to say whether the healthcare professional involved had been suspended.

In a statement released after the hearing, medical director for East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust Dr Ian Stanley said: “East Lancashire Hospitals Trust would like to express our sincere condolences to the family and friends of Mr Shaw following this tragic incident.

“We cannot comment on any specific details but can confirm that it is subject to a full investigation.”

Russ McClean, of East Lancashire Patient Voices group, said: “I will speak to the trust to find out what has happened.

“I’m sure they are sorry and one would hope they are investigating, but it’s not good enough. I would like to see a full audit of complaints so we can see what processes have been put in place, and whether this has happened before.

“I suspect it’s a terrible accident but it should not happen.”

Mr Shaw’s funeral will be held at the City Road Crematorium in Sheffield, at 11.10am on Friday.

The family has requested donations to St Luke’s Hospice in lieu of flowers.

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10:16am Thu 19 Jun 14

HarryBosch says...

I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home.
What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? !
I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home. What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? ! HarryBosch
  • Score: 118

10:17am Thu 19 Jun 14

Mikeee47 says...

Once you get an apology, it's classed as admission of guilt, the ball will soon be rolling, there are far far too many blunders happening at the Blackburn hospital. Is it lack of training or sheer incompetence?
Once you get an apology, it's classed as admission of guilt, the ball will soon be rolling, there are far far too many blunders happening at the Blackburn hospital. Is it lack of training or sheer incompetence? Mikeee47
  • Score: 104

10:32am Thu 19 Jun 14

East_lancs_lad says...

I am astounded by this story, how could they have got it so wrong. I appreciate that the hospital does indeed do some good but I hear to regularly of bad experiences with this place and have even endured the misfortune of their incompetence myself.

Things like this should just never happen
I am astounded by this story, how could they have got it so wrong. I appreciate that the hospital does indeed do some good but I hear to regularly of bad experiences with this place and have even endured the misfortune of their incompetence myself. Things like this should just never happen East_lancs_lad
  • Score: 96

11:24am Thu 19 Jun 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Deepest Condolences and Sympathy to Mark and his family.
It is now time that Thorough investigation by an independent source not connected with BRH (preferably with some REAL CLOUT) as they currently seem to be a self governing organisation,experts at sweeping things under the carpet, and distorting facts to cover their own incompetence. THESE INCIDENTS MUST STOP NOW. Feeble apologies are no longer an excuse for the absolute shambles at BRH. Maybe a complete change of management and trustees is the answer as they are all ultimately to blame for the current problems. I appreciate Cameron and Co have possibly done irretrievable damage to the NHS but they are not responsible for "on site decisions" brought about by interpretations of CRASS BAD MANAGEMENT and poor supervision.
Deepest Condolences and Sympathy to Mark and his family. It is now time that Thorough investigation by an independent source not connected with BRH (preferably with some REAL CLOUT) as they currently seem to be a self governing organisation,experts at sweeping things under the carpet, and distorting facts to cover their own incompetence. THESE INCIDENTS MUST STOP NOW. Feeble apologies are no longer an excuse for the absolute shambles at BRH. Maybe a complete change of management and trustees is the answer as they are all ultimately to blame for the current problems. I appreciate Cameron and Co have possibly done irretrievable damage to the NHS but they are not responsible for "on site decisions" brought about by interpretations of CRASS BAD MANAGEMENT and poor supervision. ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 76

11:31am Thu 19 Jun 14

adamdesk says...

I am always concerned the way drip is inserted and they do it in a rush which results bleeding

Not ALL are trained

I would recommend that when inserting drip professionals should be present
I am always concerned the way drip is inserted and they do it in a rush which results bleeding Not ALL are trained I would recommend that when inserting drip professionals should be present adamdesk
  • Score: 63

1:43pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Guzford says...

I've spent a lot of time at the hospital lately, and the problem is that there just isn't enough staff, the staff that are there are brilliant, they work their socks off and never stop.......there's just not enough of them!!!! some of the things going on there are pretty disgraceful, people are being left for hours and hours waiting for beds, for medication etc. on the last bank holiday we had to wait 8 hours for a doctor and we were told there was one on-call doctor covering all the wards!!! well done to the Tories for absolutely destroying the NHS......and the police, and the fire brigade, and education etc I could go on all day
I've spent a lot of time at the hospital lately, and the problem is that there just isn't enough staff, the staff that are there are brilliant, they work their socks off and never stop.......there's just not enough of them!!!! some of the things going on there are pretty disgraceful, people are being left for hours and hours waiting for beds, for medication etc. on the last bank holiday we had to wait 8 hours for a doctor and we were told there was one on-call doctor covering all the wards!!! well done to the Tories for absolutely destroying the NHS......and the police, and the fire brigade, and education etc I could go on all day Guzford
  • Score: 70

2:01pm Thu 19 Jun 14

lisa Jane birty says...

HarryBosch wrote:
I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home.
What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? !
I have never had a good experience at brh ive been in there for the last 3 years unfortunately I have an uncontrolled seizure disorder I collapsed and fitted once while waiting hours to be seen
They rushed me to resus were I had another 3 seizure s then said theu we're changing shifts and some one would be with me soon 2 hours later they moved me to an a@e cubical amd tjtew 2 vile s of a drug to administa by my husband amd 7 hrs later put me in isolation diagnosed gastroenteritis ( no sickness or diahorea ive a diagnosed bowel condition) I saw nobody for hours wasnt allowed to leavr the room my husband witnessed seberal seizures while visiting he was the only visitor allowed it was boxing day to nrw years day god no s how I survived I wasnyt monitorerd no tests wete carried out I would never ever be admitted to that hospital again one of many horror stories I have!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home. What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? ![/p][/quote]I have never had a good experience at brh ive been in there for the last 3 years unfortunately I have an uncontrolled seizure disorder I collapsed and fitted once while waiting hours to be seen They rushed me to resus were I had another 3 seizure s then said theu we're changing shifts and some one would be with me soon 2 hours later they moved me to an a@e cubical amd tjtew 2 vile s of a drug to administa by my husband amd 7 hrs later put me in isolation diagnosed gastroenteritis ( no sickness or diahorea ive a diagnosed bowel condition) I saw nobody for hours wasnt allowed to leavr the room my husband witnessed seberal seizures while visiting he was the only visitor allowed it was boxing day to nrw years day god no s how I survived I wasnyt monitorerd no tests wete carried out I would never ever be admitted to that hospital again one of many horror stories I have!!!!!! lisa Jane birty
  • Score: 47

2:25pm Thu 19 Jun 14

ConcernedOssy says...

lisa Jane birty wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home.
What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? !
I have never had a good experience at brh ive been in there for the last 3 years unfortunately I have an uncontrolled seizure disorder I collapsed and fitted once while waiting hours to be seen
They rushed me to resus were I had another 3 seizure s then said theu we're changing shifts and some one would be with me soon 2 hours later they moved me to an a@e cubical amd tjtew 2 vile s of a drug to administa by my husband amd 7 hrs later put me in isolation diagnosed gastroenteritis ( no sickness or diahorea ive a diagnosed bowel condition) I saw nobody for hours wasnt allowed to leavr the room my husband witnessed seberal seizures while visiting he was the only visitor allowed it was boxing day to nrw years day god no s how I survived I wasnyt monitorerd no tests wete carried out I would never ever be admitted to that hospital again one of many horror stories I have!!!!!!
I had a Similar experience with my Wife but 2 years later following a second seizure taken to Blackpool Victoria The difference was Cheese and Chalk as far as Speed, Diagnosis, Professionalism, Treatment, Care,Follow up and After Care ( which was a shock to the system after BRH turf out routine

I can only describe BRH as Abysmal and on a scale of 1-10 it would have to be a minus figure unfortunately. It obviously suffers from over management and unappreciated nursing staff. I know they have many Successes but they now seem to be having many failures.
[quote][p][bold]lisa Jane birty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home. What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? ![/p][/quote]I have never had a good experience at brh ive been in there for the last 3 years unfortunately I have an uncontrolled seizure disorder I collapsed and fitted once while waiting hours to be seen They rushed me to resus were I had another 3 seizure s then said theu we're changing shifts and some one would be with me soon 2 hours later they moved me to an a@e cubical amd tjtew 2 vile s of a drug to administa by my husband amd 7 hrs later put me in isolation diagnosed gastroenteritis ( no sickness or diahorea ive a diagnosed bowel condition) I saw nobody for hours wasnt allowed to leavr the room my husband witnessed seberal seizures while visiting he was the only visitor allowed it was boxing day to nrw years day god no s how I survived I wasnyt monitorerd no tests wete carried out I would never ever be admitted to that hospital again one of many horror stories I have!!!!!![/p][/quote]I had a Similar experience with my Wife but 2 years later following a second seizure taken to Blackpool Victoria The difference was Cheese and Chalk as far as Speed, Diagnosis, Professionalism, Treatment, Care,Follow up and After Care ( which was a shock to the system after BRH turf out routine I can only describe BRH as Abysmal and on a scale of 1-10 it would have to be a minus figure unfortunately. It obviously suffers from over management and unappreciated nursing staff. I know they have many Successes but they now seem to be having many failures. ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 53

2:29pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Richard Pembrook says...

I went up to the hospital a few weeks back with a broken wrist. First I waited over 2 hours to be seen, then they took an xray & told me it wasn't broken. I knew it was broken so went back after 2 weeks & it appears they took the x ray of the wrong part of my hand! I told them at the time they were taking the x ray in the wrong place. The asian woman that did the x ray couldn't speak English very well & just didn't seem to care. I now have a dead bone in my wrist & don't want them to have another go at it.
I went up to the hospital a few weeks back with a broken wrist. First I waited over 2 hours to be seen, then they took an xray & told me it wasn't broken. I knew it was broken so went back after 2 weeks & it appears they took the x ray of the wrong part of my hand! I told them at the time they were taking the x ray in the wrong place. The asian woman that did the x ray couldn't speak English very well & just didn't seem to care. I now have a dead bone in my wrist & don't want them to have another go at it. Richard Pembrook
  • Score: 57

2:45pm Thu 19 Jun 14

maxcollie says...

Yet another balls up
Yet another balls up maxcollie
  • Score: 52

2:46pm Thu 19 Jun 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Richard Pembrook wrote:
I went up to the hospital a few weeks back with a broken wrist. First I waited over 2 hours to be seen, then they took an xray & told me it wasn't broken. I knew it was broken so went back after 2 weeks & it appears they took the x ray of the wrong part of my hand! I told them at the time they were taking the x ray in the wrong place. The asian woman that did the x ray couldn't speak English very well & just didn't seem to care. I now have a dead bone in my wrist & don't want them to have another go at it.
Wise Man !!

But I am told we now have Choices (Don't know how you get them unfortunately !! )
[quote][p][bold]Richard Pembrook[/bold] wrote: I went up to the hospital a few weeks back with a broken wrist. First I waited over 2 hours to be seen, then they took an xray & told me it wasn't broken. I knew it was broken so went back after 2 weeks & it appears they took the x ray of the wrong part of my hand! I told them at the time they were taking the x ray in the wrong place. The asian woman that did the x ray couldn't speak English very well & just didn't seem to care. I now have a dead bone in my wrist & don't want them to have another go at it.[/p][/quote]Wise Man !! But I am told we now have Choices (Don't know how you get them unfortunately !! ) ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 48

4:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Chris P Bacon says...

Whichever nurse/medic confused the carotid artery with the jugular vein wants to be taken off front-line duties. Anyone confusing venous blood with arterial blood has no place in medicine. At all. Ever.
Whichever nurse/medic confused the carotid artery with the jugular vein wants to be taken off front-line duties. Anyone confusing venous blood with arterial blood has no place in medicine. At all. Ever. Chris P Bacon
  • Score: 66

4:57pm Thu 19 Jun 14

ConcernedOssy says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
lisa Jane birty wrote:
HarryBosch wrote:
I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home.
What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? !
I have never had a good experience at brh ive been in there for the last 3 years unfortunately I have an uncontrolled seizure disorder I collapsed and fitted once while waiting hours to be seen
They rushed me to resus were I had another 3 seizure s then said theu we're changing shifts and some one would be with me soon 2 hours later they moved me to an a@e cubical amd tjtew 2 vile s of a drug to administa by my husband amd 7 hrs later put me in isolation diagnosed gastroenteritis ( no sickness or diahorea ive a diagnosed bowel condition) I saw nobody for hours wasnt allowed to leavr the room my husband witnessed seberal seizures while visiting he was the only visitor allowed it was boxing day to nrw years day god no s how I survived I wasnyt monitorerd no tests wete carried out I would never ever be admitted to that hospital again one of many horror stories I have!!!!!!
I had a Similar experience with my Wife but 2 years later following a second seizure taken to Blackpool Victoria The difference was Cheese and Chalk as far as Speed, Diagnosis, Professionalism, Treatment, Care,Follow up and After Care ( which was a shock to the system after BRH turf out routine

I can only describe BRH as Abysmal and on a scale of 1-10 it would have to be a minus figure unfortunately. It obviously suffers from over management and unappreciated nursing staff. I know they have many Successes but they now seem to be having many failures.
Pardon the pun (not intended) but my wife tells me she was in RBH from christmas eve and was told there was only "SKELETON STAFF " over the christmas break !! wonder where they got them from !! LOL
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa Jane birty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: I have said on a number of occasions in the comments section of this paper, how I could not fault the treatment I have received at RBH. However, I am finding it increasingly difficult to defend the hospital in the face of the increasing number of alarming reports about situations that just should not happen. What the h€ll is going on in this hospital? This incident is tantamount to manslaughter! When you have the misfortune to be admitted to hospital you should at least have a realistic prospect of coming home. What ever happened to the declaration by those in the medical profession - First, do no harm? ![/p][/quote]I have never had a good experience at brh ive been in there for the last 3 years unfortunately I have an uncontrolled seizure disorder I collapsed and fitted once while waiting hours to be seen They rushed me to resus were I had another 3 seizure s then said theu we're changing shifts and some one would be with me soon 2 hours later they moved me to an a@e cubical amd tjtew 2 vile s of a drug to administa by my husband amd 7 hrs later put me in isolation diagnosed gastroenteritis ( no sickness or diahorea ive a diagnosed bowel condition) I saw nobody for hours wasnt allowed to leavr the room my husband witnessed seberal seizures while visiting he was the only visitor allowed it was boxing day to nrw years day god no s how I survived I wasnyt monitorerd no tests wete carried out I would never ever be admitted to that hospital again one of many horror stories I have!!!!!![/p][/quote]I had a Similar experience with my Wife but 2 years later following a second seizure taken to Blackpool Victoria The difference was Cheese and Chalk as far as Speed, Diagnosis, Professionalism, Treatment, Care,Follow up and After Care ( which was a shock to the system after BRH turf out routine I can only describe BRH as Abysmal and on a scale of 1-10 it would have to be a minus figure unfortunately. It obviously suffers from over management and unappreciated nursing staff. I know they have many Successes but they now seem to be having many failures.[/p][/quote]Pardon the pun (not intended) but my wife tells me she was in RBH from christmas eve and was told there was only "SKELETON STAFF " over the christmas break !! wonder where they got them from !! LOL ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 37

7:27pm Thu 19 Jun 14

useyourhead says...

They nearly finished my mother off in there a couple of years back, she was in bed having a C.O.P.D flare up when the nurse dropped her sleeping pill, she promptly stood her at the side of the bed while she rummaged in the bedding to find it, the result was mum ending up in intensive care with a pap mask on for hours with no one checking her or offering to remove it so she could drink, I moved in that day and left with mum a week or so later, having undertaken most of her care and chasing late medication and scouring other wards for incontinence pads (i was told they don't issue them as they promote incontinence by encouraging laziness) so ended up buying our own. They need help.. and fast.
They nearly finished my mother off in there a couple of years back, she was in bed having a C.O.P.D flare up when the nurse dropped her sleeping pill, she promptly stood her at the side of the bed while she rummaged in the bedding to find it, the result was mum ending up in intensive care with a pap mask on for hours with no one checking her or offering to remove it so she could drink, I moved in that day and left with mum a week or so later, having undertaken most of her care and chasing late medication and scouring other wards for incontinence pads (i was told they don't issue them as they promote incontinence by encouraging laziness) so ended up buying our own. They need help.. and fast. useyourhead
  • Score: 35

7:29pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Fire Fly says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
Whichever nurse/medic confused the carotid artery with the jugular vein wants to be taken off front-line duties. Anyone confusing venous blood with arterial blood has no place in medicine. At all. Ever.
Agree completely...I notice details of who did this are being kept very quiet. As said in a previous post...this isn't just medical negligence its manslaughter, end of & the person concerned should be struck off.
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: Whichever nurse/medic confused the carotid artery with the jugular vein wants to be taken off front-line duties. Anyone confusing venous blood with arterial blood has no place in medicine. At all. Ever.[/p][/quote]Agree completely...I notice details of who did this are being kept very quiet. As said in a previous post...this isn't just medical negligence its manslaughter, end of & the person concerned should be struck off. Fire Fly
  • Score: 44

7:30pm Thu 19 Jun 14

boynesider says...

this hospital is just too big ,in my opinion,and has to cover too big a district.local services were a lot better.more accountable .plus this government has cut spending on the NHS in real terms and are now hiring new staff on lower wages than previously paid for the job.why do politicians think they are the only ones worth a decent wage?safe in their hands ?? a dangerous lie
this hospital is just too big ,in my opinion,and has to cover too big a district.local services were a lot better.more accountable .plus this government has cut spending on the NHS in real terms and are now hiring new staff on lower wages than previously paid for the job.why do politicians think they are the only ones worth a decent wage?safe in their hands ?? a dangerous lie boynesider
  • Score: 40

8:53pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Ribbleman says...

From experience and gathered knowledge there appears to be far more negligence and mistakes in the gastro and urology depts. than is normal or acceptable. I have personal experience of this. Some heads need to roll and consultants and registrars investigated.
From experience and gathered knowledge there appears to be far more negligence and mistakes in the gastro and urology depts. than is normal or acceptable. I have personal experience of this. Some heads need to roll and consultants and registrars investigated. Ribbleman
  • Score: 36

8:54pm Thu 19 Jun 14

maxcollie says...

They need properly trained staff and enough of them to carry out their duties.
They need properly trained staff and enough of them to carry out their duties. maxcollie
  • Score: 32

8:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Nosy123 says...

This is a tragedy that should not of happened. It is negligence and **** right inexcusable. When a nurse makes a simple error they are struck off the register immediately yet consultants and gps seem to get away with these things lightly. The nhs is far too business orientated instead of being patient focused. There is too much litigation and tape for nurses to do their job properly. Too much paperwork that needs to be done prevents nurses from spending that quality time with patients and being able to take their time. But the paperwork needs to be accurate due to such incidents as too many members of the public are interested in screwing the nhs for every penny they can when something goes wrong. This is why the nhs is on it's backside. Nurses are run off their feet working in poor conditions of being under staffed and over worked with little recognition for good work. Yes I agree there are some fantastic nurses out there but others I wonder how and who let them slip through the system. No-one should have to pay with their life by suffering at the hand of medical negligence. If someone is not competent at carrying out a task then have the courage to admit that and get the help you require instead of putting someone at risk. It's easy to slag the nhs off but those people don't understand the politics behind it all and that those as registered professionals are at constant risk of litigation due to the americanised climate we seem to be living in. Many slate it but without it you would all complain also. I am not for one minute condoning or finding excuses for what has happened as it horrifies me but a lot can be said for graham pink and the stepping hill incidents. More nhs workers need to adopt his approach and stand up for what they are passionate about and whistleblow. Patients can not be subjected to risk and unacceptable levels of care through managers deeming it to be acceptable as there is no money to employ more staff. Find another solution. The nhs is too heavy and those who make decisions never enter the shop floor and see the real world and what staff have to contend with. They should ask for their advice and opinions as they identify problems but also are valuable in coming up with solutions. Rant over.
This is a tragedy that should not of happened. It is negligence and **** right inexcusable. When a nurse makes a simple error they are struck off the register immediately yet consultants and gps seem to get away with these things lightly. The nhs is far too business orientated instead of being patient focused. There is too much litigation and tape for nurses to do their job properly. Too much paperwork that needs to be done prevents nurses from spending that quality time with patients and being able to take their time. But the paperwork needs to be accurate due to such incidents as too many members of the public are interested in screwing the nhs for every penny they can when something goes wrong. This is why the nhs is on it's backside. Nurses are run off their feet working in poor conditions of being under staffed and over worked with little recognition for good work. Yes I agree there are some fantastic nurses out there but others I wonder how and who let them slip through the system. No-one should have to pay with their life by suffering at the hand of medical negligence. If someone is not competent at carrying out a task then have the courage to admit that and get the help you require instead of putting someone at risk. It's easy to slag the nhs off but those people don't understand the politics behind it all and that those as registered professionals are at constant risk of litigation due to the americanised climate we seem to be living in. Many slate it but without it you would all complain also. I am not for one minute condoning or finding excuses for what has happened as it horrifies me but a lot can be said for graham pink and the stepping hill incidents. More nhs workers need to adopt his approach and stand up for what they are passionate about and whistleblow. Patients can not be subjected to risk and unacceptable levels of care through managers deeming it to be acceptable as there is no money to employ more staff. Find another solution. The nhs is too heavy and those who make decisions never enter the shop floor and see the real world and what staff have to contend with. They should ask for their advice and opinions as they identify problems but also are valuable in coming up with solutions. Rant over. Nosy123
  • Score: 40

9:11pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Biscay says...

So much for "Special Measures" - 12 months on nothing has changed at this hospital - completely dysfunctional .

Responsibility for this on going shambles rests fairly and squarely with the Secretary of State for Health - he took the decision to put that trust in special measures.

Keogh - sir you have no credibility what's so ever - resign !

Straw - what are you doing about it ?!!
So much for "Special Measures" - 12 months on nothing has changed at this hospital - completely dysfunctional . Responsibility for this on going shambles rests fairly and squarely with the Secretary of State for Health - he took the decision to put that trust in special measures. Keogh - sir you have no credibility what's so ever - resign ! Straw - what are you doing about it ?!! Biscay
  • Score: 31

9:16pm Thu 19 Jun 14

katypri says...

the area they are trying to cover makes it impossible for them to do the best for everyone, you are really lucky if you can attract a nurses attention when you need one
the area they are trying to cover makes it impossible for them to do the best for everyone, you are really lucky if you can attract a nurses attention when you need one katypri
  • Score: 31

9:36pm Thu 19 Jun 14

trevhd says...

To many staff who don't speak English as their first language .
To many staff who don't speak English as their first language . trevhd
  • Score: 37

9:50pm Thu 19 Jun 14

gazzandste says...

Guzford wrote:
I've spent a lot of time at the hospital lately, and the problem is that there just isn't enough staff, the staff that are there are brilliant, they work their socks off and never stop.......there's just not enough of them!!!! some of the things going on there are pretty disgraceful, people are being left for hours and hours waiting for beds, for medication etc. on the last bank holiday we had to wait 8 hours for a doctor and we were told there was one on-call doctor covering all the wards!!! well done to the Tories for absolutely destroying the NHS......and the police, and the fire brigade, and education etc I could go on all day
I agree fully. Royal Blackburn is far too busy for the amount of admissions they have to cope with, and the staff available to accommodate them. The staff who are there are great guys, but why doesn`t the trust share the back log with Burnley general, two hospitals means half the waiting time.
[quote][p][bold]Guzford[/bold] wrote: I've spent a lot of time at the hospital lately, and the problem is that there just isn't enough staff, the staff that are there are brilliant, they work their socks off and never stop.......there's just not enough of them!!!! some of the things going on there are pretty disgraceful, people are being left for hours and hours waiting for beds, for medication etc. on the last bank holiday we had to wait 8 hours for a doctor and we were told there was one on-call doctor covering all the wards!!! well done to the Tories for absolutely destroying the NHS......and the police, and the fire brigade, and education etc I could go on all day[/p][/quote]I agree fully. Royal Blackburn is far too busy for the amount of admissions they have to cope with, and the staff available to accommodate them. The staff who are there are great guys, but why doesn`t the trust share the back log with Burnley general, two hospitals means half the waiting time. gazzandste
  • Score: 31

11:09pm Thu 19 Jun 14

ConcernedOssy says...

IF APPOINTED MANAGERS CAN'T\WON'T MANAGE, THEN DISMISSAL IS THE ONLY SOLUTION, (There are far too many anyway) and the sooner the better in order to save lives. The Nursing staff should not be carrying the can for the shambles that is now Royal Blackburn. Its now time to start rolling heads including and investigate some consultants and registrars who urgently need it . Spoken and written English should also be mandatory as a basic. In Spain for example even though for many English is a second language initial reports and diagnostics are mostly in Spanish, the national language
IF APPOINTED MANAGERS CAN'T\WON'T MANAGE, THEN DISMISSAL IS THE ONLY SOLUTION, (There are far too many anyway) and the sooner the better in order to save lives. The Nursing staff should not be carrying the can for the shambles that is now Royal Blackburn. Its now time to start rolling heads including and investigate some consultants and registrars who urgently need it . Spoken and written English should also be mandatory as a basic. In Spain for example even though for many English is a second language initial reports and diagnostics are mostly in Spanish, the national language ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 31

11:37pm Thu 19 Jun 14

stevesteve says...

Very sad news and a tragedy for the family to have to deal with.
Typical that the great unwashed put their hardly believable spin on the care at Royal Blackburn in the comments section. Don't waste your time on here, have a bath, clean your tooth and go and see a no win no fee solicitor to listen to your tales.
My thoughts are with the family, not the morons who jump on the bandwagon.
Very sad news and a tragedy for the family to have to deal with. Typical that the great unwashed put their hardly believable spin on the care at Royal Blackburn in the comments section. Don't waste your time on here, have a bath, clean your tooth and go and see a no win no fee solicitor to listen to your tales. My thoughts are with the family, not the morons who jump on the bandwagon. stevesteve
  • Score: -6

11:50pm Thu 19 Jun 14

mys says...

Firstly I will say,over the last 6yrs my son has been admitted to hospital quite often as he is poorly,I can't thank the specialists /doctors and nurses enough for his care,he had emergency surgery at Xmas which saved his life,but on this occasion the after care wasn't good at all,the epidural had come out and after him screaming in agony(no one would listen) it was myself that had to tell the nurse,then he got infection in his wound ,he asked a nurse(who didn't have a clue and barely spoke English) to change his illiostomy 4 times because it was leaking and she left him,in agony with 56 staples in his stomach flat on his back half parallised from the waist down,he should of stayed in at least 4 weeks but came home after 6 days because he couldn't stand it any longer,the nurses came to the house for 10 weeks twice a day to do his dressings,thank god for the care they gave him,this hospital employ some incompitant morons that haven't got a clue nevermind qualifications,then they wonder why mistakes are made,get rid of them and get some compitant staff that know what there doing for gods sake.
Firstly I will say,over the last 6yrs my son has been admitted to hospital quite often as he is poorly,I can't thank the specialists /doctors and nurses enough for his care,he had emergency surgery at Xmas which saved his life,but on this occasion the after care wasn't good at all,the epidural had come out and after him screaming in agony(no one would listen) it was myself that had to tell the nurse,then he got infection in his wound ,he asked a nurse(who didn't have a clue and barely spoke English) to change his illiostomy 4 times because it was leaking and she left him,in agony with 56 staples in his stomach flat on his back half parallised from the waist down,he should of stayed in at least 4 weeks but came home after 6 days because he couldn't stand it any longer,the nurses came to the house for 10 weeks twice a day to do his dressings,thank god for the care they gave him,this hospital employ some incompitant morons that haven't got a clue nevermind qualifications,then they wonder why mistakes are made,get rid of them and get some compitant staff that know what there doing for gods sake. mys
  • Score: 37

9:59am Fri 20 Jun 14

claret777 says...

Utter disgrace...many sit around doing nothing all day and expect pay rises.Someone should be arrested for this or was it an accident.
Utter disgrace...many sit around doing nothing all day and expect pay rises.Someone should be arrested for this or was it an accident. claret777
  • Score: 27

1:15pm Fri 20 Jun 14

kapalski says...

stevesteve wrote:
Very sad news and a tragedy for the family to have to deal with. Typical that the great unwashed put their hardly believable spin on the care at Royal Blackburn in the comments section. Don't waste your time on here, have a bath, clean your tooth and go and see a no win no fee solicitor to listen to your tales. My thoughts are with the family, not the morons who jump on the bandwagon.
And what if this was happening to your loved ones?? Pretty sure you would be on the band wagon too! Obviously its not, so think youself lucky!!!

Now go have a bath yourself, clean your own tooth and give your head a wobble! And when the time comes and you need urgent care at a weekend, just remember, those services are also being cut!
[quote][p][bold]stevesteve[/bold] wrote: Very sad news and a tragedy for the family to have to deal with. Typical that the great unwashed put their hardly believable spin on the care at Royal Blackburn in the comments section. Don't waste your time on here, have a bath, clean your tooth and go and see a no win no fee solicitor to listen to your tales. My thoughts are with the family, not the morons who jump on the bandwagon.[/p][/quote]And what if this was happening to your loved ones?? Pretty sure you would be on the band wagon too! Obviously its not, so think youself lucky!!! Now go have a bath yourself, clean your own tooth and give your head a wobble! And when the time comes and you need urgent care at a weekend, just remember, those services are also being cut! kapalski
  • Score: 21

1:18pm Fri 20 Jun 14

kapalski says...

Thoughts are with the family and I hope they get the answers that they need so that they can move foward, and remember the good and happy memories, not all this!! xx
Thoughts are with the family and I hope they get the answers that they need so that they can move foward, and remember the good and happy memories, not all this!! xx kapalski
  • Score: 29

1:12pm Sun 22 Jun 14

zabby says...

This is a sad result of overworked staff at a hospital that is not equipped for the demand placed on it ,after the labour government closed burnley hospital we were told this was a flagship hospital and things would improve,some times we need to take a step backwards and realise what's gone wrong,there is nothing more serious than someone losing their life
This is a sad result of overworked staff at a hospital that is not equipped for the demand placed on it ,after the labour government closed burnley hospital we were told this was a flagship hospital and things would improve,some times we need to take a step backwards and realise what's gone wrong,there is nothing more serious than someone losing their life zabby
  • Score: 12

12:45am Sun 29 Jun 14

CapitaBackHander says...

Killed my nan in there in 2004 - brings back the memories. To be honest she probably didn't have long to go but the bruise on her head was huge after they let her fall in the toilets unattended when her lungs were not giving full oxegen. We should have complained but not much point as it just makes them have to cover up the truth.
Them and then Burnley (same consultant) totally screwed up on operation on me.
Killed my nan in there in 2004 - brings back the memories. To be honest she probably didn't have long to go but the bruise on her head was huge after they let her fall in the toilets unattended when her lungs were not giving full oxegen. We should have complained but not much point as it just makes them have to cover up the truth. Them and then Burnley (same consultant) totally screwed up on operation on me. CapitaBackHander
  • Score: 3

8:47am Sun 29 Jun 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Is this the place where they remove your testicles to treat frozen shoulder?
Is this the place where they remove your testicles to treat frozen shoulder? OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 6

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