East Lancs fracking row steps up as firm calls for law change to sidestep landowners over permission

Blackburn Citizen: East Lancs fracking row steps up as firm calls for law change to sidestep landowners over permission East Lancs fracking row steps up as firm calls for law change to sidestep landowners over permission

ENVIRONMENTALISTS have attacked shale gas giant Cuadrilla over plans to drill under Lancashire homes without permission.

The energy company has reportedly threatened to pull out unless the law is changed to allow landowner’s permission to be overruled.

Greenpeace has hit out in response at Cuadrilla, which has this week applied to drill four exploratory wells in Preston.

Francis Egan, chief executive of Cuadrilla, has been quoted in the national press as saying they could not proceed if they had to negotiate with every landowner.

It comes after the formation of new protest groups – Frack Off Burnley and East Lancashire Against Fracking began public protests last month.

In an interview with the Times he said the requirement to seek landowner’s permission was ‘ridiculous’.

He said that landowners would be unaffected by drilling beneath their property and seeking permission endangered the scheme. He said: “It’s Catch 22. You have to demonstrate that they’re safe before you can get public opinion to support you.”

Greenpeace has told the Lancashire Telegraph they view the comments as a threat to gain more legal powers.

UK energy campaigner Simon Clydesdale said: “Such controversial plans to strip away householders’ rights just days before a consultation is set to be officially announced in the Queen’s Speech makes a mockery of public participation. The proposals themselves are a sham, offering practically nothing to the people affected by under-house drilling and placing no obligation on the frackers to compensate communities. If any money will be paid, it’s not even clear who’ll get it or manage it.

“This shale shambles just shows ministers are bending over backwards and cutting corners to satisfy the fracking lobby’s every wish.”

A petition against fracking, addressed to all East Lancashire councils, is at www. change.org.

When contacted by the Lancashire Telegraph, Cuadrilla said it “fully intends” to go ahead. They added: “We agree with both the Government's assertion and recent case law that the landowners’ enjoyment of surface land is not impaired at all by this activity.”

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6:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

wilddog says...

So you dont own the land you paid for eh? Hmm, i think you do and i wold challenge it! Maybe even charge them a couple of million quid to drill under or through my land! I cant alter wot i put on my land without council approval but these guys can just bypass it?
So you dont own the land you paid for eh? Hmm, i think you do and i wold challenge it! Maybe even charge them a couple of million quid to drill under or through my land! I cant alter wot i put on my land without council approval but these guys can just bypass it? wilddog
  • Score: 19

6:53pm Tue 3 Jun 14

mavrick says...

It shows the government never had any intentions of consulting with the public. If they get away with this your house prices will crash. I wonder if this law applies to some of the big estates owned by the Tory donaters or will their land be bypassed?
It shows the government never had any intentions of consulting with the public. If they get away with this your house prices will crash. I wonder if this law applies to some of the big estates owned by the Tory donaters or will their land be bypassed? mavrick
  • Score: 17

7:26pm Tue 3 Jun 14

POW WOW says...

wilddog wrote:
So you dont own the land you paid for eh? Hmm, i think you do and i wold challenge it! Maybe even charge them a couple of million quid to drill under or through my land! I cant alter wot i put on my land without council approval but these guys can just bypass it?
We don't legally own our own homes come to think of it when it's considered "Real Estate" the term "real" in fact has an hidden meaning that doubles up like it belongs to the Royals, so in this case the Royal family or government actually own our properties !!!!!!! Another scenario is if one of us managed to generate our own electricity or gas we could tell the energy company that we'd no longer required the use of Umbilical cords connecting our property to the grid. The energy company would have a field day demanding they are a requirement attached to our properties and cannot be removed, so in fact aren't they or the law claiming that they own part of our property ????
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote: So you dont own the land you paid for eh? Hmm, i think you do and i wold challenge it! Maybe even charge them a couple of million quid to drill under or through my land! I cant alter wot i put on my land without council approval but these guys can just bypass it?[/p][/quote]We don't legally own our own homes come to think of it when it's considered "Real Estate" the term "real" in fact has an hidden meaning that doubles up like it belongs to the Royals, so in this case the Royal family or government actually own our properties !!!!!!! Another scenario is if one of us managed to generate our own electricity or gas we could tell the energy company that we'd no longer required the use of Umbilical cords connecting our property to the grid. The energy company would have a field day demanding they are a requirement attached to our properties and cannot be removed, so in fact aren't they or the law claiming that they own part of our property ???? POW WOW
  • Score: 8

7:53pm Tue 3 Jun 14

wilddog says...

POW WOW wrote:
wilddog wrote:
So you dont own the land you paid for eh? Hmm, i think you do and i wold challenge it! Maybe even charge them a couple of million quid to drill under or through my land! I cant alter wot i put on my land without council approval but these guys can just bypass it?
We don't legally own our own homes come to think of it when it's considered "Real Estate" the term "real" in fact has an hidden meaning that doubles up like it belongs to the Royals, so in this case the Royal family or government actually own our properties !!!!!!! Another scenario is if one of us managed to generate our own electricity or gas we could tell the energy company that we'd no longer required the use of Umbilical cords connecting our property to the grid. The energy company would have a field day demanding they are a requirement attached to our properties and cannot be removed, so in fact aren't they or the law claiming that they own part of our property ????
I know about the energy thing and along with that,think about this, You dont use gas but there is a gas meter installed at your property. It has also been disconnect but the companies WILL CHARGE YOU 36p per day for just having it there! Why? I have told a few business to see their solicitors and draw up a rental charge for the space used by the meter at 2.50 a day! They do drop the charge! Its the same if a shop has more than 1 elec meter but only uses 1 as other 2 are disconnected but the business get charged for for these redundant meters! Watch out fr smart meters being fitted as i am sure the daily charge will increase for these even if ya dont use them. All these companies think we are stupid and will pay it but they are right! We will, Millions every single year!
[quote][p][bold]POW WOW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote: So you dont own the land you paid for eh? Hmm, i think you do and i wold challenge it! Maybe even charge them a couple of million quid to drill under or through my land! I cant alter wot i put on my land without council approval but these guys can just bypass it?[/p][/quote]We don't legally own our own homes come to think of it when it's considered "Real Estate" the term "real" in fact has an hidden meaning that doubles up like it belongs to the Royals, so in this case the Royal family or government actually own our properties !!!!!!! Another scenario is if one of us managed to generate our own electricity or gas we could tell the energy company that we'd no longer required the use of Umbilical cords connecting our property to the grid. The energy company would have a field day demanding they are a requirement attached to our properties and cannot be removed, so in fact aren't they or the law claiming that they own part of our property ????[/p][/quote]I know about the energy thing and along with that,think about this, You dont use gas but there is a gas meter installed at your property. It has also been disconnect but the companies WILL CHARGE YOU 36p per day for just having it there! Why? I have told a few business to see their solicitors and draw up a rental charge for the space used by the meter at 2.50 a day! They do drop the charge! Its the same if a shop has more than 1 elec meter but only uses 1 as other 2 are disconnected but the business get charged for for these redundant meters! Watch out fr smart meters being fitted as i am sure the daily charge will increase for these even if ya dont use them. All these companies think we are stupid and will pay it but they are right! We will, Millions every single year! wilddog
  • Score: 5

8:19pm Tue 3 Jun 14

phil kernot says...

Every thing on life is by contract only ,,, if you don't agree say no ,,, the. Tories are into fracking as all the lords are main share holders ,, bullying there way through there all out to line there pockets ,,, you cannot change tress pass law to suit a commercial entity ,,, to make money ,,, I know let just change the laws so we all work for the Tories ,,,, vote ukip this is the only party up to now that's not got its snout in the trough ,,,, while were at it stop paying your tv licence as it's not illegal not to pay it ,, as capita collects it and if you don't watch live tv why do you pay it ,,, say no to the jimmy savile fund ( who owns the bbc ) Tory mps
Every thing on life is by contract only ,,, if you don't agree say no ,,, the. Tories are into fracking as all the lords are main share holders ,, bullying there way through there all out to line there pockets ,,, you cannot change tress pass law to suit a commercial entity ,,, to make money ,,, I know let just change the laws so we all work for the Tories ,,,, vote ukip this is the only party up to now that's not got its snout in the trough ,,,, while were at it stop paying your tv licence as it's not illegal not to pay it ,, as capita collects it and if you don't watch live tv why do you pay it ,,, say no to the jimmy savile fund ( who owns the bbc ) Tory mps phil kernot
  • Score: 4

8:20pm Tue 3 Jun 14

frank says...

money , money , money. thats the only thing that matters. change the law no problem. whose pockets is all this lining?
money , money , money. thats the only thing that matters. change the law no problem. whose pockets is all this lining? frank
  • Score: 10

8:27pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

mavrick wrote:
It shows the government never had any intentions of consulting with the public. If they get away with this your house prices will crash. I wonder if this law applies to some of the big estates owned by the Tory donaters or will their land be bypassed?
Don't forget Labour - they're bang up for fracking too.

A grand house price crash though? Do you genuinely believe that yourself?

Our country is still dotted with old, unsafe, coal mines, yet house prices are mysteriously unaffected.

Jeez, mavrick, stopping to think about things rationally might be a good idea here.
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: It shows the government never had any intentions of consulting with the public. If they get away with this your house prices will crash. I wonder if this law applies to some of the big estates owned by the Tory donaters or will their land be bypassed?[/p][/quote]Don't forget Labour - they're bang up for fracking too. A grand house price crash though? Do you genuinely believe that yourself? Our country is still dotted with old, unsafe, coal mines, yet house prices are mysteriously unaffected. Jeez, mavrick, stopping to think about things rationally might be a good idea here. Jack Herer
  • Score: 5

8:31pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

There are supposedly billions of barrels under the ground Mr Cameron agreed, there's billions of pounds to made Mr Cameron agreed.

Question as a house owner in Lancashire what do I get, answer, sweet FA, The government and foreign share holders will get there fair share no doubt, Me nowt, I will protest until I die before I let anyone drill under my house.

Don't give me "all the jobs it will create" what about the environment, oh that goes out the door when theres a quick buck to be made, this may help our economy but what will it do for your great great great Grandchildren digging great holes underground? Have you no conscious?
There are supposedly billions of barrels under the ground Mr Cameron agreed, there's billions of pounds to made Mr Cameron agreed. Question as a house owner in Lancashire what do I get, answer, sweet FA, The government and foreign share holders will get there fair share no doubt, Me nowt, I will protest until I die before I let anyone drill under my house. Don't give me "all the jobs it will create" what about the environment, oh that goes out the door when theres a quick buck to be made, this may help our economy but what will it do for your great great great Grandchildren digging great holes underground? Have you no conscious? Old age pensioner
  • Score: 3

8:37pm Tue 3 Jun 14

clickhere says...

If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass. clickhere
  • Score: -7

8:37pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

phil kernot wrote:
Every thing on life is by contract only ,,, if you don't agree say no ,,, the. Tories are into fracking as all the lords are main share holders ,, bullying there way through there all out to line there pockets ,,, you cannot change tress pass law to suit a commercial entity ,,, to make money ,,, I know let just change the laws so we all work for the Tories ,,,, vote ukip this is the only party up to now that's not got its snout in the trough ,,,, while were at it stop paying your tv licence as it's not illegal not to pay it ,, as capita collects it and if you don't watch live tv why do you pay it ,,, say no to the jimmy savile fund ( who owns the bbc ) Tory mps
And Labour's reason for being into fracking then?

Is that part of your big crazy Tory conspiracy?

UKIP have their snouts firmly in the trough incidentally. Of the policies they've bothered to publish, they believe that the rich should get a big tax cut.

UKIP's biggest benefactors and beneficiaries are the rich. UKIP are further to the right than the Tories when it comes feathering the nests of the fat cats.

I'm literally amazed that you weren't aware of that.

But, be my guest, vote UKIP if you want big fat tax breaks for the big fat cats.
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Every thing on life is by contract only ,,, if you don't agree say no ,,, the. Tories are into fracking as all the lords are main share holders ,, bullying there way through there all out to line there pockets ,,, you cannot change tress pass law to suit a commercial entity ,,, to make money ,,, I know let just change the laws so we all work for the Tories ,,,, vote ukip this is the only party up to now that's not got its snout in the trough ,,,, while were at it stop paying your tv licence as it's not illegal not to pay it ,, as capita collects it and if you don't watch live tv why do you pay it ,,, say no to the jimmy savile fund ( who owns the bbc ) Tory mps[/p][/quote]And Labour's reason for being into fracking then? Is that part of your big crazy Tory conspiracy? UKIP have their snouts firmly in the trough incidentally. Of the policies they've bothered to publish, they believe that the rich should get a big tax cut. UKIP's biggest benefactors and beneficiaries are the rich. UKIP are further to the right than the Tories when it comes feathering the nests of the fat cats. I'm literally amazed that you weren't aware of that. But, be my guest, vote UKIP if you want big fat tax breaks for the big fat cats. Jack Herer
  • Score: -1

8:44pm Tue 3 Jun 14

clickhere says...

clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
You may have missed the second word in my contribution quoted. ALL

My comment refers to ALL the previous comments.
[quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]You may have missed the second word in my contribution quoted. ALL My comment refers to ALL the previous comments. clickhere
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
Couldn't agree more.

And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk.

What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case.

People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil.

They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably.

The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.
[quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk. What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case. People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil. They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably. The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity. Jack Herer
  • Score: 3

8:51pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

clickhere wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
You may have missed the second word in my contribution quoted. ALL

My comment refers to ALL the previous comments.
Including yours therefore?
[quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]You may have missed the second word in my contribution quoted. ALL My comment refers to ALL the previous comments.[/p][/quote]Including yours therefore? Jack Herer
  • Score: 1

9:08pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

Jack Herer wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
Couldn't agree more.

And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk.

What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case.

People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil.

They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably.

The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.
Zeich Hail.

Quote - A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of there locals now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity!!!

We'll pardon me for breathing Squire but us poor peasants do now have a voice thank god, and with attitudes like you Lord Ha Ha thank god we do, your obviously one of those who has a vested interest in this planning being successful, well Jacky boy see you at the drill site gates!!
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk. What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case. People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil. They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably. The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.[/p][/quote]Zeich Hail. Quote - A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of there locals now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity!!! We'll pardon me for breathing Squire but us poor peasants do now have a voice thank god, and with attitudes like you Lord Ha Ha thank god we do, your obviously one of those who has a vested interest in this planning being successful, well Jacky boy see you at the drill site gates!! Old age pensioner
  • Score: 7

9:24pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jerzei Balowski says...

Jack Herer wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
Couldn't agree more.

And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk.

What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case.

People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil.

They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably.

The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.
Last bubbles ? That might be true but for the fact that 42% of UK gas production is in English waters.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk. What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case. People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil. They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably. The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.[/p][/quote]Last bubbles ? That might be true but for the fact that 42% of UK gas production is in English waters. Jerzei Balowski
  • Score: 5

9:27pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

Old age pensioner wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
Couldn't agree more.

And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk.

What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case.

People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil.

They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably.

The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.
Zeich Hail.

Quote - A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of there locals now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity!!!

We'll pardon me for breathing Squire but us poor peasants do now have a voice thank god, and with attitudes like you Lord Ha Ha thank god we do, your obviously one of those who has a vested interest in this planning being successful, well Jacky boy see you at the drill site gates!!
I have zero personal interest in the planning being successful.

You assuming I am handily proves my point though.

Just because I think fracking isn't a bad thing, you immediately think I'm part of some rich conspiracy to rob the man on the street. It's a bizarre way of thinking.

Are you genuinely so daft to believe that I'm some toff with vested interests in fracking? Your are bang wrong if you do.

You are making wildly incorrect assumptions. Your stupidity is clearly of your own making therefore, not mine.

That's why I say it was better when this level of stupidity used to be confined to the bar of the local.
[quote][p][bold]Old age pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk. What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case. People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil. They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably. The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.[/p][/quote]Zeich Hail. Quote - A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of there locals now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity!!! We'll pardon me for breathing Squire but us poor peasants do now have a voice thank god, and with attitudes like you Lord Ha Ha thank god we do, your obviously one of those who has a vested interest in this planning being successful, well Jacky boy see you at the drill site gates!![/p][/quote]I have zero personal interest in the planning being successful. You assuming I am handily proves my point though. Just because I think fracking isn't a bad thing, you immediately think I'm part of some rich conspiracy to rob the man on the street. It's a bizarre way of thinking. Are you genuinely so daft to believe that I'm some toff with vested interests in fracking? Your are bang wrong if you do. You are making wildly incorrect assumptions. Your stupidity is clearly of your own making therefore, not mine. That's why I say it was better when this level of stupidity used to be confined to the bar of the local. Jack Herer
  • Score: -3

9:36pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

Jerzei Balowski wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
Couldn't agree more.

And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk.

What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case.

People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil.

They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably.

The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.
Last bubbles ? That might be true but for the fact that 42% of UK gas production is in English waters.
Scotland has a population of 5.3 million. England has ten times more with 53 million.

Whilst i appreciate we will still have some North Sea gas, clearly our consumption vs our reserves won't stack up for very long if Scotland goes independent.

I sincerely hope they don't, but surely we need to be looking at alternatives regardless.

The country's energy solution isn't some magic wand unfortunately. We'd be moronic to be reliant on countries like Russia for that energy. Renewal doesn't seem to be viable, or even popular, for our needs. Not at present.

Away from the hysteria, fracking is a decent option.
[quote][p][bold]Jerzei Balowski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk. What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case. People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil. They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably. The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.[/p][/quote]Last bubbles ? That might be true but for the fact that 42% of UK gas production is in English waters.[/p][/quote]Scotland has a population of 5.3 million. England has ten times more with 53 million. Whilst i appreciate we will still have some North Sea gas, clearly our consumption vs our reserves won't stack up for very long if Scotland goes independent. I sincerely hope they don't, but surely we need to be looking at alternatives regardless. The country's energy solution isn't some magic wand unfortunately. We'd be moronic to be reliant on countries like Russia for that energy. Renewal doesn't seem to be viable, or even popular, for our needs. Not at present. Away from the hysteria, fracking is a decent option. Jack Herer
  • Score: -2

9:40pm Tue 3 Jun 14

jenkinsroy says...

Well about fracking & Mr Putin
1 Mr PUTIN will NOT stop the supply of gas here at any time
why because he doesn't have to all he as to do is BLOW
THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTY AND HE WILL.
2 I told you all about fracking last year and now this government are
doing what I said they would changing the law by the BACK DOOR
without asking anybody for a vote on it .
They need the money now ? after their law making by the back door
as backfired and the pot is empty now .
S O GET READY FOR ALL THE **** THEY HAVE BEEN PLANING
OVER THERE HOLIDAYS CUT CUT CUT FRACK FRACK
STOP FIRST TIME HOME OWNER LOANS AND CALL THE DETS IN
OF THEM PUT UP INTEREST RATES NO TAX BREAKS FOR LOW PAY
WORKER ALL WILL START BEFORE THE END OF JUNE 2014 ITS
OVER FOR THIS GOVERNMENT NOW SO THEY ARE GOING OUT
OF THERE WAY TO DESTROY OUR COUNTY .
REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE START OF THEIR CAMPAIGN
OF SLASH AND BURN AND WE ALL HERE WILL HAVE NO VOTE
ON ANYTHING NOW THE RICH ONLY UNDERSTAND .
WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY
GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY .
Well about fracking & Mr Putin 1 Mr PUTIN will NOT stop the supply of gas here at any time why because he doesn't have to all he as to do is BLOW THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTY AND HE WILL. 2 I told you all about fracking last year and now this government are doing what I said they would changing the law by the BACK DOOR without asking anybody for a vote on it . They need the money now ? after their law making by the back door as backfired and the pot is empty now . S O GET READY FOR ALL THE **** THEY HAVE BEEN PLANING OVER THERE HOLIDAYS CUT CUT CUT FRACK FRACK STOP FIRST TIME HOME OWNER LOANS AND CALL THE DETS IN OF THEM PUT UP INTEREST RATES NO TAX BREAKS FOR LOW PAY WORKER ALL WILL START BEFORE THE END OF JUNE 2014 ITS OVER FOR THIS GOVERNMENT NOW SO THEY ARE GOING OUT OF THERE WAY TO DESTROY OUR COUNTY . REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE START OF THEIR CAMPAIGN OF SLASH AND BURN AND WE ALL HERE WILL HAVE NO VOTE ON ANYTHING NOW THE RICH ONLY UNDERSTAND . WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY . jenkinsroy
  • Score: 3

10:07pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jack Herer says...

jenkinsroy wrote:
Well about fracking & Mr Putin
1 Mr PUTIN will NOT stop the supply of gas here at any time
why because he doesn't have to all he as to do is BLOW
THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTY AND HE WILL.
2 I told you all about fracking last year and now this government are
doing what I said they would changing the law by the BACK DOOR
without asking anybody for a vote on it .
They need the money now ? after their law making by the back door
as backfired and the pot is empty now .
S O GET READY FOR ALL THE **** THEY HAVE BEEN PLANING
OVER THERE HOLIDAYS CUT CUT CUT FRACK FRACK
STOP FIRST TIME HOME OWNER LOANS AND CALL THE DETS IN
OF THEM PUT UP INTEREST RATES NO TAX BREAKS FOR LOW PAY
WORKER ALL WILL START BEFORE THE END OF JUNE 2014 ITS
OVER FOR THIS GOVERNMENT NOW SO THEY ARE GOING OUT
OF THERE WAY TO DESTROY OUR COUNTY .
REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE START OF THEIR CAMPAIGN
OF SLASH AND BURN AND WE ALL HERE WILL HAVE NO VOTE
ON ANYTHING NOW THE RICH ONLY UNDERSTAND .
WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY
GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY .
So according to you, Putin is level headed enough to never stop the supply of gas, but he is unstable enough to "BLOW THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTY" at the drop of a hat?

Don't you think that your opinion of Putin is a teeny bit contradicting?

Over and above that though - have a bit of backbone you soft ****.

We are British thanks. Putin won't blow anything our way, or we'll blow it back. He knows that as well, however much he bullies, oppresses, and annexes weaker countries.

Never forget that the greedy fat cats live in Russia first and foremost too, with Putin at the top of a pile who leaches off the common man.

Your caps lock diatribe would be better directed towards Russia therefore than Britain.
[quote][p][bold]jenkinsroy[/bold] wrote: Well about fracking & Mr Putin 1 Mr PUTIN will NOT stop the supply of gas here at any time why because he doesn't have to all he as to do is BLOW THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTY AND HE WILL. 2 I told you all about fracking last year and now this government are doing what I said they would changing the law by the BACK DOOR without asking anybody for a vote on it . They need the money now ? after their law making by the back door as backfired and the pot is empty now . S O GET READY FOR ALL THE **** THEY HAVE BEEN PLANING OVER THERE HOLIDAYS CUT CUT CUT FRACK FRACK STOP FIRST TIME HOME OWNER LOANS AND CALL THE DETS IN OF THEM PUT UP INTEREST RATES NO TAX BREAKS FOR LOW PAY WORKER ALL WILL START BEFORE THE END OF JUNE 2014 ITS OVER FOR THIS GOVERNMENT NOW SO THEY ARE GOING OUT OF THERE WAY TO DESTROY OUR COUNTY . REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE START OF THEIR CAMPAIGN OF SLASH AND BURN AND WE ALL HERE WILL HAVE NO VOTE ON ANYTHING NOW THE RICH ONLY UNDERSTAND . WE WANT MORE WE WANT MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY .[/p][/quote]So according to you, Putin is level headed enough to never stop the supply of gas, but he is unstable enough to "BLOW THE **** OUT OF OUR COUNTY" at the drop of a hat? Don't you think that your opinion of Putin is a teeny bit contradicting? Over and above that though - have a bit of backbone you soft ****. We are British thanks. Putin won't blow anything our way, or we'll blow it back. He knows that as well, however much he bullies, oppresses, and annexes weaker countries. Never forget that the greedy fat cats live in Russia first and foremost too, with Putin at the top of a pile who leaches off the common man. Your caps lock diatribe would be better directed towards Russia therefore than Britain. Jack Herer
  • Score: -1

11:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Old age pensioner wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
Couldn't agree more.

And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk.

What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case.

People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil.

They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably.

The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.
Zeich Hail.

Quote - A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of there locals now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity!!!

We'll pardon me for breathing Squire but us poor peasants do now have a voice thank god, and with attitudes like you Lord Ha Ha thank god we do, your obviously one of those who has a vested interest in this planning being successful, well Jacky boy see you at the drill site gates!!
I have zero personal interest in the planning being successful.

You assuming I am handily proves my point though.

Just because I think fracking isn't a bad thing, you immediately think I'm part of some rich conspiracy to rob the man on the street. It's a bizarre way of thinking.

Are you genuinely so daft to believe that I'm some toff with vested interests in fracking? Your are bang wrong if you do.

You are making wildly incorrect assumptions. Your stupidity is clearly of your own making therefore, not mine.

That's why I say it was better when this level of stupidity used to be confined to the bar of the local.
You Sir need to look at your own words and read them again and again only then when the penny drops will you realise what a Pratt you are, I love debating but not with snooty nose people who think they are better than they are.
Take a look at the little bit of democracy we have on these post, people from all walks of life have a choice by putting a plus or a minus, take a long look at your comments results.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old age pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. And there's the cost of the alternatives too, never mind the risk. What if Scotland goes independent as well? Bang goes the last bubbles of North Sea gas for us if that's the case. People genuinely live in some fantasy world, where the "government" is some evil organisation, out to rob the common man, and bring destruction and destitution through fracking as they cackle manically in their champagne toasts towards evil. They think energy is easy flowing, plentiful, and safe from elsewhere - they don't need to actually think or state where that is - but they believe this free power been suppressed somehow, by the Tories presumably. The internet clearly has its pros and cons. A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of their locals, now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity.[/p][/quote]Zeich Hail. Quote - A big con is that people who were formally confined to the bar of there locals now have a public voice to share their ill thought out stupidity!!! We'll pardon me for breathing Squire but us poor peasants do now have a voice thank god, and with attitudes like you Lord Ha Ha thank god we do, your obviously one of those who has a vested interest in this planning being successful, well Jacky boy see you at the drill site gates!![/p][/quote]I have zero personal interest in the planning being successful. You assuming I am handily proves my point though. Just because I think fracking isn't a bad thing, you immediately think I'm part of some rich conspiracy to rob the man on the street. It's a bizarre way of thinking. Are you genuinely so daft to believe that I'm some toff with vested interests in fracking? Your are bang wrong if you do. You are making wildly incorrect assumptions. Your stupidity is clearly of your own making therefore, not mine. That's why I say it was better when this level of stupidity used to be confined to the bar of the local.[/p][/quote]You Sir need to look at your own words and read them again and again only then when the penny drops will you realise what a Pratt you are, I love debating but not with snooty nose people who think they are better than they are. Take a look at the little bit of democracy we have on these post, people from all walks of life have a choice by putting a plus or a minus, take a long look at your comments results. Old age pensioner
  • Score: 1

11:54pm Tue 3 Jun 14

wilddog says...

clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
A life time ambition is it, to be called a Knob?
[quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]A life time ambition is it, to be called a Knob? wilddog
  • Score: 2

12:53am Wed 4 Jun 14

clickhere says...

wilddog wrote:
clickhere wrote:
If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own.

I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa.

I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.
A life time ambition is it, to be called a Knob?
I rest my case!
[quote][p][bold]wilddog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clickhere[/bold] wrote: If all the above is an example of the quality of opposition to fracking, then I reckon Cuadrilla will have a free run to get planning permissions. These columns are renowned for idiot contributions, but the above gobbledegook is a class of its own. I guess you all trust that nice Mr Putin to guarantee our gas supplies and think that our remaining 19 Royal Navy ships and 7 subs will be able to protect the transport of gas from Indonesia, the Gulf and North Africa. I am not proposing a free for all, but a suitably regulated fracking industry must have an important role to play whilst our politicians come up with a sensible energy policy for everyone's benefit..Assuming they can find the energy policy ball they keep kicking into the long grass.[/p][/quote]A life time ambition is it, to be called a Knob?[/p][/quote]I rest my case! clickhere
  • Score: 1

6:29am Wed 4 Jun 14

Excluded again says...

Not everyone owns the mineral rights to the land they own. There are varying types of rights and ownership relating to mines and minerals. These can range from owning the mines and minerals outright and being able to take them away, whether or not the owner of the surface agrees, to having some rights to them that can be exercised with the agreement of the surface owner.

But whichever form of ownership it is, the owner has these legal rights and has paid for them when they bought the property. To take them away is as much theft as if someone put up a fence and claimed the right to use half your drive.
Not everyone owns the mineral rights to the land they own. There are varying types of rights and ownership relating to mines and minerals. These can range from owning the mines and minerals outright and being able to take them away, whether or not the owner of the surface agrees, to having some rights to them that can be exercised with the agreement of the surface owner. But whichever form of ownership it is, the owner has these legal rights and has paid for them when they bought the property. To take them away is as much theft as if someone put up a fence and claimed the right to use half your drive. Excluded again
  • Score: 4

9:26am Wed 4 Jun 14

jenkinsroy says...

LOOK AFTER ALL OF THE GOOD COMMENTS
FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE
IT STILL COME DOWN TO THIS
TO HOW WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS.
US HERE OR THEM IN THE E.U.
THIS GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO OUR
PRIVATE LAND AND FOR THEM TO BRING IN A LAW
THROUGH THE BACK DOOR MAKES THEM
NO BETTER THAN Mr PUTIN DO YOU NOT THINK SO?
THINK ABOUT THIS ALL OF YOU !
YOU MAY WAKE UP ONE MORNING DRILLING RIG OUTSIDE
YOUR HOME WHAT WILL YOU DO THEN NOTHING WHY
BECAUSE THIS GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN THEM THE RIGHT
TO YOUR HOME.
SO HOW ABOUT ALL OF US ON THIS PAGE EMAILING
OUR PRIME MINISTER AND TELLING HIM WHERE TO GO!
I WILL START THE BALL ROLLING O.K.
LOOK AFTER ALL OF THE GOOD COMMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE IT STILL COME DOWN TO THIS TO HOW WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS. US HERE OR THEM IN THE E.U. THIS GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO OUR PRIVATE LAND AND FOR THEM TO BRING IN A LAW THROUGH THE BACK DOOR MAKES THEM NO BETTER THAN Mr PUTIN DO YOU NOT THINK SO? THINK ABOUT THIS ALL OF YOU ! YOU MAY WAKE UP ONE MORNING DRILLING RIG OUTSIDE YOUR HOME WHAT WILL YOU DO THEN NOTHING WHY BECAUSE THIS GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN THEM THE RIGHT TO YOUR HOME. SO HOW ABOUT ALL OF US ON THIS PAGE EMAILING OUR PRIME MINISTER AND TELLING HIM WHERE TO GO! I WILL START THE BALL ROLLING O.K. jenkinsroy
  • Score: 3

9:41am Thu 5 Jun 14

jenkinsroy says...

Well Jack Herer says..
We could at one time defend our county NOT now
this government has cut our troops to the borne
and everybody in the E.U. know this NOW
I for one do believe they have cut far too many of them
and this government are relying on our 17/18/20/year olds
to die for this county for no payment at all do you understand this
jack herer because I THINK YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND .?
WE DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER ANY MORE THANKS TO DAVID
GOVERNMENT SO HE ESPECES THE YOUNG TO BAIL HIM OUT
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN THEY WILL NOT DIE FOR HIM OR THIS
COUNTY AFTER THE WAY HE HAS TREATED THEM.
I for one will not be sending my son to die in war for nothing just for them in government to save money for their benefit not our son/daughter's need to do some homework on this like I do look into the hard facts here our lads and lasses .
are out there fighting for our safety and when they come home this government shows them the job centre where they will not get any help
from them and from what I can gaver by looking into this matter it is not
going to stop here they have more plane in the pipeline for our armies
and other forces I will keep you all informed as I get information back

P.S. do not take this comment the wrong way it is to inform you not take
the **** out of you thank you for your comments
Well Jack Herer says.. We could at one time defend our county NOT now this government has cut our troops to the borne and everybody in the E.U. know this NOW I for one do believe they have cut far too many of them and this government are relying on our 17/18/20/year olds to die for this county for no payment at all do you understand this jack herer because I THINK YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND .? WE DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER ANY MORE THANKS TO DAVID GOVERNMENT SO HE ESPECES THE YOUNG TO BAIL HIM OUT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN THEY WILL NOT DIE FOR HIM OR THIS COUNTY AFTER THE WAY HE HAS TREATED THEM. I for one will not be sending my son to die in war for nothing just for them in government to save money for their benefit not our son/daughter's need to do some homework on this like I do look into the hard facts here our lads and lasses . are out there fighting for our safety and when they come home this government shows them the job centre where they will not get any help from them and from what I can gaver by looking into this matter it is not going to stop here they have more plane in the pipeline for our armies and other forces I will keep you all informed as I get information back P.S. do not take this comment the wrong way it is to inform you not take the **** out of you thank you for your comments jenkinsroy
  • Score: 0

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