Anger in Lancashire over Home Secretary’s ‘attack on police’

Federation slams ‘reform’ speech

Federation slams ‘reform’ speech

First published in News Blackburn Citizen: Photograph of the Author by , Local government reporter

LANCASHIRE’S Police Federation is at the centre of the row between the organisation and Home Secretary Theresa May.

Four of its officials expressed their anger and distress at her speech to its annual conference in Bournemouth this week, one on national TV.

Mrs May told the Police Federation of England and Wales to reform, or she would enforce change.

The Home Secretary made the demand as she told the federation its public funding would be withdrawn from August.

The speech, received in silence, referred to a series of police scandals ranging from 'plebgate' to the review into the Hillsborough disaster.

The organisation, which represents 126,000 rank and file officers nationwide, faces accusations of bullying and a lack of transparency in its accounts.

Lancashire branch secretary John Ainsworth, who criticised her speech on the BBC ‘Six O’Clock News’, said: “Her speech was absolutely outrageous.

“She decided to insult the whole police family. I was staggered.”

Chairman Rachel Baines, who lives in Rossendale and worked in Blackburn before transferring to force headquarters in Hutton, said: “Our federation members are angry and upset. Some of her comments were unfair and unnecessary.

“Lancashire’s Police Federation accepts the need for change and embraces it.”

Burnley detective constable and branch committee member Mark Whitehead said: “This was not at attack on the Police Federation but the whole extended police family, the hundreds of officers who go out every day to serve the public.” Vice-chairman Steve Rothwell, formerly of Burnley police station, said: “I was bitterly disappointed. It was an attack on the whole police service.”

A motion for reform was passed at the federation's annual conference after Mrs May's speech.

Outgoing chairman Steve Williams said the federation would 'work hard' to make sure the changes were carried out.

Mrs May announced the Home Office would inspect the federation's accounts adding in future officers would have to ‘opt in’ to membership rather than be automatically enrolled.

The federation has been criticised for the way it handled the 'plebgate' affair, which led to the resignation of former Government chief whip Andrew Mitchell.

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4:23pm Fri 23 May 14

the usher says...

Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.
Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern. the usher
  • Score: 2

5:09pm Fri 23 May 14

lostforwords says...

Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two. lostforwords
  • Score: 4

5:19pm Fri 23 May 14

Graham Hartley says...

I have read the text of Theresa May's speech. Speaking about the reduction in crime, she said "...I want to thank every police officer and staff member in the country for getting on with the job..." No sign of attack there.

She lists matters which must trouble all of us.

"In the last few years, we have seen the Leveson Inquiry. The appalling conclusions of the Hillsborough independent panel. The death of Ian Tomlinson and the sacking of PC Harwood. The ongoing inquiry by an independent panel into the murder of Daniel Morgan. The first sacking of a chief constable for gross misconduct in modern times. The investigation of more than ten senior officers for acts of alleged misconduct and corruption. Allegations of rigged recorded crime statistics. The sacking of PCs Keith Wallis, James Glanville and Gillian Weatherley after “Plebgate”. Worrying reports by the inspectorate about stop and search and domestic violence. The Herne Review into the conduct of the Metropolitan Police Special Demonstration Squad. The Ellison Review into allegations of corruption during the investigation of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. Further allegations that the police sought to smear Stephen’s family. Soon, there will be another judge-led public inquiry into policing."

If no Lancashire officers can be connected with these matters then the Lancashire Police Federation can be parochial. Is this the foundation of its argument?
I have read the text of Theresa May's speech. Speaking about the reduction in crime, she said "...I want to thank every police officer and staff member in the country for getting on with the job..." No sign of attack there. She lists matters which must trouble all of us. "In the last few years, we have seen the Leveson Inquiry. The appalling conclusions of the Hillsborough independent panel. The death of Ian Tomlinson and the sacking of PC Harwood. The ongoing inquiry by an independent panel into the murder of Daniel Morgan. The first sacking of a chief constable for gross misconduct in modern times. The investigation of more than ten senior officers for acts of alleged misconduct and corruption. Allegations of rigged recorded crime statistics. The sacking of PCs Keith Wallis, James Glanville and Gillian Weatherley after “Plebgate”. Worrying reports by the inspectorate about stop and search and domestic violence. The Herne Review into the conduct of the Metropolitan Police Special Demonstration Squad. The Ellison Review into allegations of corruption during the investigation of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. Further allegations that the police sought to smear Stephen’s family. Soon, there will be another judge-led public inquiry into policing." If no Lancashire officers can be connected with these matters then the Lancashire Police Federation can be parochial. Is this the foundation of its argument? Graham Hartley
  • Score: 5

9:26pm Fri 23 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

the usher wrote:
Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.
A first class d1ckhead comment from a first class d1ckhead.
[quote][p][bold]the usher[/bold] wrote: Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.[/p][/quote]A first class d1ckhead comment from a first class d1ckhead. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -2

9:47pm Fri 23 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
[quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -1

11:45pm Fri 23 May 14

fedup with your lies says...

the usher wrote:
Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.
Totally agree mate, I'm glad for one, that at least just like other public servants the police can be criticised too.
[quote][p][bold]the usher[/bold] wrote: Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.[/p][/quote]Totally agree mate, I'm glad for one, that at least just like other public servants the police can be criticised too. fedup with your lies
  • Score: 3

11:46pm Fri 23 May 14

fedup with your lies says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ????? fedup with your lies
  • Score: 4

12:37am Sat 24 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people.

Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples?

Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.
[quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ?????[/p][/quote]Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people. Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples? Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 1

9:14am Sat 24 May 14

Jack Herer says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
the usher wrote:
Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.
A first class d1ckhead comment from a first class d1ckhead.
Would I be right in assuming you are a police officer?

If so, word of advice; don't get lost in the propaganda of your union, i.e. the Police Federation. Their very questionable actions do a serious injustice to the cause of the average copper. Their frothing rhetoric on this subject speaks volumes. Your own hate filled response likewise.

My assumption doesn't just come from this news story incidentally.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the usher[/bold] wrote: Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.[/p][/quote]A first class d1ckhead comment from a first class d1ckhead.[/p][/quote]Would I be right in assuming you are a police officer? If so, word of advice; don't get lost in the propaganda of your union, i.e. the Police Federation. Their very questionable actions do a serious injustice to the cause of the average copper. Their frothing rhetoric on this subject speaks volumes. Your own hate filled response likewise. My assumption doesn't just come from this news story incidentally. Jack Herer
  • Score: -1

9:17am Sat 24 May 14

Jack Herer says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people.

Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples?

Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.
The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole.

That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ?????[/p][/quote]Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people. Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples? Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.[/p][/quote]The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole. That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for. Jack Herer
  • Score: 1

10:04am Sat 24 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
the usher wrote:
Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.
A first class d1ckhead comment from a first class d1ckhead.
Would I be right in assuming you are a police officer?

If so, word of advice; don't get lost in the propaganda of your union, i.e. the Police Federation. Their very questionable actions do a serious injustice to the cause of the average copper. Their frothing rhetoric on this subject speaks volumes. Your own hate filled response likewise.

My assumption doesn't just come from this news story incidentally.
No I am not a Police officer, I have several close relatives who are so I do have more of an insight than most.

I am allowed to have such an opinion and yet not be a copper you know.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the usher[/bold] wrote: Good for Teresa May. About time someone did something about the police. They tend to believe they are above the law. personally I wouldn't trust the police "as far as I could throw them". Over the last four/five years I (and others) have contacted the police and they weren't even bothered. Let them drive around in their cars, stop motorist and that is their main concern.[/p][/quote]A first class d1ckhead comment from a first class d1ckhead.[/p][/quote]Would I be right in assuming you are a police officer? If so, word of advice; don't get lost in the propaganda of your union, i.e. the Police Federation. Their very questionable actions do a serious injustice to the cause of the average copper. Their frothing rhetoric on this subject speaks volumes. Your own hate filled response likewise. My assumption doesn't just come from this news story incidentally.[/p][/quote]No I am not a Police officer, I have several close relatives who are so I do have more of an insight than most. I am allowed to have such an opinion and yet not be a copper you know. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 0

10:10am Sat 24 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people.

Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples?

Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.
The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole.

That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.
What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things.
They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ?????[/p][/quote]Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people. Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples? Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.[/p][/quote]The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole. That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.[/p][/quote]What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things. They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -1

10:21am Sat 24 May 14

Jack Herer says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people.

Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples?

Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.
The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole.

That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.
What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things.
They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.
No, but there are huge question marks regarding the spending of the top players in the Police Federation. Fat cats and greed and all that.

Not being funny, but that isn't anything to do with you is it?

It's just your passionate defence of the organisation, combined with your vitriol, similar to them, against Teresa May.

That and your inability, deliberate or otherwise, to differentiate between the Police Federation and the police force of course.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ?????[/p][/quote]Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people. Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples? Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.[/p][/quote]The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole. That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.[/p][/quote]What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things. They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.[/p][/quote]No, but there are huge question marks regarding the spending of the top players in the Police Federation. Fat cats and greed and all that. Not being funny, but that isn't anything to do with you is it? It's just your passionate defence of the organisation, combined with your vitriol, similar to them, against Teresa May. That and your inability, deliberate or otherwise, to differentiate between the Police Federation and the police force of course. Jack Herer
  • Score: 2

9:48pm Sat 24 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people.

Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples?

Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.
The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole.

That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.
What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things.
They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.
No, but there are huge question marks regarding the spending of the top players in the Police Federation. Fat cats and greed and all that.

Not being funny, but that isn't anything to do with you is it?

It's just your passionate defence of the organisation, combined with your vitriol, similar to them, against Teresa May.

That and your inability, deliberate or otherwise, to differentiate between the Police Federation and the police force of course.
Sorry Jack, but you haven't got a clue what you're talking about, it's that simple.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ?????[/p][/quote]Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people. Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples? Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.[/p][/quote]The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole. That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.[/p][/quote]What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things. They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.[/p][/quote]No, but there are huge question marks regarding the spending of the top players in the Police Federation. Fat cats and greed and all that. Not being funny, but that isn't anything to do with you is it? It's just your passionate defence of the organisation, combined with your vitriol, similar to them, against Teresa May. That and your inability, deliberate or otherwise, to differentiate between the Police Federation and the police force of course.[/p][/quote]Sorry Jack, but you haven't got a clue what you're talking about, it's that simple. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 0

9:49pm Sat 24 May 14

Steven Seagull says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
fedup with your lies wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
lostforwords wrote:
Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.
Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant?

The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with.
Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.
Do you really have to be so angry ?????
Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people.

Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples?

Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.
The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole.

That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.
What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things.
They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.
No, but there are huge question marks regarding the spending of the top players in the Police Federation. Fat cats and greed and all that.

Not being funny, but that isn't anything to do with you is it?

It's just your passionate defence of the organisation, combined with your vitriol, similar to them, against Teresa May.

That and your inability, deliberate or otherwise, to differentiate between the Police Federation and the police force of course.
Sorry Jack, but you haven't got a clue what you're talking about, it's that simple.
Tell us all what you know about the fed then Jack, you seem to think you know what you're on about.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedup with your lies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lostforwords[/bold] wrote: Yes good for Teresa May. Now she should have a go at the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) another police organisation that needs bringing down a peg or two.[/p][/quote]Good for Theresa May? Are you serious? Good for what? Good for insulting 126,000 police officers citing the behaviour of a tiny tiny minority as a basis for her rant? The real reason for the outrageous bile that spewed from her haggard toilet mouth is because she fancies herself as the next leader of the Conservative party and believes that by taking such a stance she will add to and polish her portfolio and ultimately be seen as somebody that no body that exists to protect the interests and rights of workers should mess with. Amongst other reasons, having a go at the police service as a whole today for the unacceptable behaviour of a minority of senior Police officers at Hillsborough 25 years ago is nothing short of outrageous and she should be thoroughly embarrassed and ashamed of herself. Somehow I doubt it though.[/p][/quote]Do you really have to be so angry ?????[/p][/quote]Yes, it angers me to some tune. I have relatives that are serving police officers and over the years they have been subjected to a wide range of unsavoury things, being badly beaten up, stabbed, having a gun heald to one of their heads, dealing with very young children having been abused to the point that it is almost beyond comprehension, the list goes on and on. And for this b1tch to say what she said is an insult to my relatives and every other cop who puts their lives on the line to protect people. Since the likes of Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence, which were horrendous incidents which quite rightly caused public outrage, how many cops have come and go in England and Wales ? You're talking hundreds of thousands, and what portion of those were bad apples? Theresa May couldn't give a toss about the police service. She simply sees them as a decent opponent for a fight that she knows she can win because they aren't and cannot be members of a trade union, the result being her building a reputation as somebody who is tough and shouldn't be messed with.[/p][/quote]The point is the Police Federation's role in all those things listed, not the police force as a whole. That doesn't even touch on the missing millions within the Police Federation, which, to be quite frank, is simply obscene given what the organisation supposedly stands for.[/p][/quote]What missing millions? They have 70 odd million in their accounts, thats money paid in by rank and file cops out out of their own pockets and used for a variety of things. They haven't just stashed it under a mattress and kept quiet about it.[/p][/quote]No, but there are huge question marks regarding the spending of the top players in the Police Federation. Fat cats and greed and all that. Not being funny, but that isn't anything to do with you is it? It's just your passionate defence of the organisation, combined with your vitriol, similar to them, against Teresa May. That and your inability, deliberate or otherwise, to differentiate between the Police Federation and the police force of course.[/p][/quote]Sorry Jack, but you haven't got a clue what you're talking about, it's that simple.[/p][/quote]Tell us all what you know about the fed then Jack, you seem to think you know what you're on about. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Sat 24 May 14

Graham Hartley says...

Teresa May was born on December 15, 1966 in Surrey, England as Teresa Betteridge. She is an actress, known for Nude & Naughty (1998), Petticoat Passions Vol. 1 (2001) and Lesbian Student Nurses (2000).
Teresa May was born on December 15, 1966 in Surrey, England as Teresa Betteridge. She is an actress, known for Nude & Naughty (1998), Petticoat Passions Vol. 1 (2001) and Lesbian Student Nurses (2000). Graham Hartley
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