Proud Meadowhead residents send clear message to Blackburn council

Blackburn Citizen: New signs in Meadowhead New signs in Meadowhead

RESIDENTS and councillors in an area of Blackburn have been left scratching their heads after signs were put up that said they were in Mill Hill.

The signs, to show 20mph speed limits in certain streets, have a Blackburn with Darwen borough crest and the words ‘Mill Hill’ beneath them.

Councillors and residents said the streets, including Brother Street and Shorrock Lane, are actually in the Meadowhead ward.

But council bosses said despite the streets being within that ward, they are actually in the geographical area of Mill Hill.

Coun Konrad Tapp said residents in the area had been furious after the signs were put up.

He said: “Naturally I have been inundated with complaints from constituents who live in the Meadowhead area which has been classed as Mill Hill.

“The signs have been placed on Brother Street, Shorrock Lane and others.

“They have always voted in the Meadowhead local elections and consequently believe that is where their residence has and always will be.

“Angry and astonished, I decided to contact the powers-that-be to be told the sign is correct thanks to the ‘geography’ of the boundaries, whatever that means.

“You could place this latest debacle in a Monty Python show. You just couldn’t make it up.

“I cannot, for the life of me, understand the technicalities of the ‘geographic boundary’.

Coun Tapp said he contacted Blackburn with Darwen Council. The response: “For speed limit gateway signs, any place name needs to represent the geographical location and not the name of the ward.

“In this instance, while the ward is Meadowhead, it is geographically part of Mill Hill. This has been checked on old maps of the borough.

“The geographical requirement comes from Chapter 7 of the Traffic Signs Manual, therefore it would not be possible to put another name on the signs that does not represent the geographical area.”

Fellow Meadowhead ward councillor Ashley Whalley said: “They are clearly in the Meadowhead ward.

“They should have been correct in the first instance.

“We will of course be campaigning to have them changes, but the problem will of course be expense.”

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10:46am Mon 17 Mar 14

Bluelizzy says...

Great, the Council blowing our money to create a problem where previously there was none. What is the point of it saying Mill Hill or anything else other than 20 mph ?
Great, the Council blowing our money to create a problem where previously there was none. What is the point of it saying Mill Hill or anything else other than 20 mph ? Bluelizzy
  • Score: 22

11:16am Mon 17 Mar 14

CyberWala says...

sheeesh... must make people of Mill Hill feel pretty dejected...... then again who would want their ward to be associated with a dump like "Mill Hill".... so sympathies go to the people of Meadowhead ;-)
sheeesh... must make people of Mill Hill feel pretty dejected...... then again who would want their ward to be associated with a dump like "Mill Hill".... so sympathies go to the people of Meadowhead ;-) CyberWala
  • Score: -2

11:20am Mon 17 Mar 14

pepsi00 says...

The deed on my house says Cherry Tree not Mill Hill, there is no need for this sign and I will continue to put Cherry Tree on my address
The deed on my house says Cherry Tree not Mill Hill, there is no need for this sign and I will continue to put Cherry Tree on my address pepsi00
  • Score: 2

11:28am Mon 17 Mar 14

anonymous11111 says...

who cares about a sign you all need to get a life in my eyes, going out your way to phone the council hahaha
who cares about a sign you all need to get a life in my eyes, going out your way to phone the council hahaha anonymous11111
  • Score: -4

11:54am Mon 17 Mar 14

expat pop says...

The thin edge of the wedge. Meadow(big)heads will want independence next.
The thin edge of the wedge. Meadow(big)heads will want independence next. expat pop
  • Score: 6

12:37pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Seasiders says...

CyberWala wrote:
sheeesh... must make people of Mill Hill feel pretty dejected...... then again who would want their ward to be associated with a dump like "Mill Hill".... so sympathies go to the people of Meadowhead ;-)
Yes, because the people who have the luxury Green Lane Estate on their doorstep would obviously be ashamed to be associated with Mill Hill?
[quote][p][bold]CyberWala[/bold] wrote: sheeesh... must make people of Mill Hill feel pretty dejected...... then again who would want their ward to be associated with a dump like "Mill Hill".... so sympathies go to the people of Meadowhead ;-)[/p][/quote]Yes, because the people who have the luxury Green Lane Estate on their doorstep would obviously be ashamed to be associated with Mill Hill? Seasiders
  • Score: 16

4:23pm Mon 17 Mar 14

UrbanGreener says...

It is not a matter of being associated with Mill Hill, for better or worse, it is a matter of having our own identity. I live in Meadowhead, which is only in Mill Hill according to the 1983 Mill Hill plan which promised all sorts of improvements for the area. Can we see those improvements now being implemented? Only 30 years late but better late than never. If the improvements are made then I'll be happy to be associated with Mill Hill.
It is not a matter of being associated with Mill Hill, for better or worse, it is a matter of having our own identity. I live in Meadowhead, which is only in Mill Hill according to the 1983 Mill Hill plan which promised all sorts of improvements for the area. Can we see those improvements now being implemented? Only 30 years late but better late than never. If the improvements are made then I'll be happy to be associated with Mill Hill. UrbanGreener
  • Score: -8

4:36pm Mon 17 Mar 14

tinstletown says...

The deeds on my house also state cherry tree yet I only live on the next street down from this ridiculous sign......I thought that community consultation was something you pride yourselves in.....I don't remember being consulted.....does anyone else???
The deeds on my house also state cherry tree yet I only live on the next street down from this ridiculous sign......I thought that community consultation was something you pride yourselves in.....I don't remember being consulted.....does anyone else??? tinstletown
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Mon 17 Mar 14

mr_sheens says...

Those people who don't agree that geographically they live in Mill Hill, regardless of a ward, they should pay THEMSELVES for a new sign because I am not paying out of my council tax.
Those people who don't agree that geographically they live in Mill Hill, regardless of a ward, they should pay THEMSELVES for a new sign because I am not paying out of my council tax. mr_sheens
  • Score: -3

7:18pm Mon 17 Mar 14

M.DANNY says...

It is Mill Hill all these boundary changes have caused problems for the residents of Mill Hill.
Local Government and National Government have changed boundaries of Lancashire Preston Blackburn Blackpool In Lancashire ,Bolton Bury Rochdale Oldham in Greater Manchester and Liverpool is Merseyside.
We want the name Lancashire retained this is our great Red Rose County.
Yorkshire has not changed their name they have retained their name as West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and North Yorkshire.
Government change boundaries and change names but people should have a say in a democracy.
It is Mill Hill all these boundary changes have caused problems for the residents of Mill Hill. Local Government and National Government have changed boundaries of Lancashire Preston Blackburn Blackpool In Lancashire ,Bolton Bury Rochdale Oldham in Greater Manchester and Liverpool is Merseyside. We want the name Lancashire retained this is our great Red Rose County. Yorkshire has not changed their name they have retained their name as West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and North Yorkshire. Government change boundaries and change names but people should have a say in a democracy. M.DANNY
  • Score: 7

9:05pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Plodder laner says...

No consultation? It was in the LT for weeks harping on about 20s and Mill Hill. Notices went up and consultations went on in two community centres, Mill Hill and Green Lane. Ask the staff there. The point is the limit. It says Blackburn with Darwen driving in from Bolton. Blackburn police station isn't in Blackburn, the boundary goes around the back of it.
No consultation? It was in the LT for weeks harping on about 20s and Mill Hill. Notices went up and consultations went on in two community centres, Mill Hill and Green Lane. Ask the staff there. The point is the limit. It says Blackburn with Darwen driving in from Bolton. Blackburn police station isn't in Blackburn, the boundary goes around the back of it. Plodder laner
  • Score: -1

10:21pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Pommie Art says...

Meadowhead, Is a posh name for Mereclough Avenue they only changed that name to attract some more scum into the area.
Meadowhead, Is a posh name for Mereclough Avenue they only changed that name to attract some more scum into the area. Pommie Art
  • Score: -4

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