Blackburn with Darwen dog owners could face legal sanctions

Blackburn Citizen: Blackburn with Darwen dog owners could face legal sanctions Blackburn with Darwen dog owners could face legal sanctions

NEW controls on dogs in children’s play areas, cemeteries, church grounds and sports fields across Blackburn with Darwen are to go ahead despite a backlash from owners.

When the crackdown to tackle fouling and uncontrolled animals was proposed in September, council leader Kate Hollern said she was in favour of a total ban on dogs off leads in the borough’s seven main parks.

The move angered dog walkers who said they should have the right to exercise well behaved pets by allowing them to run free.

More than 50 residents expressed concern about it, but most were alarmed by Coun Hollern’s desire for a total ban on dogs running free. Borough environment boss Jim Smith said the measures were needed after numerous complaints about dangerous animals and people failing to clean up after their pets.

They are due to be rubber-stamped by the council’s executive on Thursday.

The proposals will ban all dogs, except guide dogs, from all 45 enclosed play areas.

It will become a criminal offence not to keep a dog on a lead in 10 cemeteries, church precincts and burial grounds, including the Cathedral Close. On eight more playing fields officials will be able to order owners to put their dogs on a lead on pain of a £75 fine.

During the consultation, five letters and 49 emails of objection were received.

Coun Smith added: “Coun Hollern is totally happy with the proposals, as are all responsible dog owners.

“If these measures failed to tackle the problem, we will consider further steps.

“They will not include a total ban on dogs off leads in parks.”

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2:41pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Elegant1 says...

I am glad that the council has seen fit to take this action so I say it's not before time!
Unsupervised dogs should not be allowed into the children's play areas on safety grounds, and all dogs should be muzzled when in public areas at all times. It is too late once an attack takes place and injuries occur.
Dog owners are careless in the extreme when they allow their dogs to run freely in public parks. Off the lead they are unsupervised and free to attack at will!
The Council will be pushed to monitor this edict as they are with dog-fouling in general.
I am glad that the council has seen fit to take this action so I say it's not before time! Unsupervised dogs should not be allowed into the children's play areas on safety grounds, and all dogs should be muzzled when in public areas at all times. It is too late once an attack takes place and injuries occur. Dog owners are careless in the extreme when they allow their dogs to run freely in public parks. Off the lead they are unsupervised and free to attack at will! The Council will be pushed to monitor this edict as they are with dog-fouling in general. Elegant1
  • Score: -13

2:58pm Tue 11 Mar 14

AnthonyUK says...

There are also people who let their dogs poop but don't put the mess into doggie poop bags;these should also face the same action.
There are also people who let their dogs poop but don't put the mess into doggie poop bags;these should also face the same action. AnthonyUK
  • Score: 13

3:02pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mmickk says...

council leader Kate Hollern you are an utter and complete tosser your only motive is like straw votes. You do not give a toss about anyone but your self lets hope you shoot yourself in the foot at the next elections why can you not do one with straw back to where you came from.
council leader Kate Hollern you are an utter and complete tosser your only motive is like straw votes. You do not give a toss about anyone but your self lets hope you shoot yourself in the foot at the next elections why can you not do one with straw back to where you came from. mmickk
  • Score: 11

3:16pm Tue 11 Mar 14

BlackburnBadger says...

Complete farce, and a prime example of the nanny state. Dogs need exercise and can't always get the exercise needed on a walk on a lead. I do agree with playgrounds as it's not an area you would normally exercise your dog, and although I've never had much time for cllr Hollern in general this must be one of her more idiotic motions. I walk my dog in the old Blackburn cemetery between Roe Lee and Sunnybower, and yes there are those who don't pick up after their dogs, but for one that's never monitored so I don't understand how this will be either. Secondly I'd also like to point out that dog walkers are the few people who go in that cemetery and keep it tidy as the council seem to have forgotten it's there.
Complete farce, and a prime example of the nanny state. Dogs need exercise and can't always get the exercise needed on a walk on a lead. I do agree with playgrounds as it's not an area you would normally exercise your dog, and although I've never had much time for cllr Hollern in general this must be one of her more idiotic motions. I walk my dog in the old Blackburn cemetery between Roe Lee and Sunnybower, and yes there are those who don't pick up after their dogs, but for one that's never monitored so I don't understand how this will be either. Secondly I'd also like to point out that dog walkers are the few people who go in that cemetery and keep it tidy as the council seem to have forgotten it's there. BlackburnBadger
  • Score: 17

3:18pm Tue 11 Mar 14

BlackburnBadger says...

mmickk wrote:
council leader Kate Hollern you are an utter and complete tosser your only motive is like straw votes. You do not give a toss about anyone but your self lets hope you shoot yourself in the foot at the next elections why can you not do one with straw back to where you came from.
Couldn't agree more
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: council leader Kate Hollern you are an utter and complete tosser your only motive is like straw votes. You do not give a toss about anyone but your self lets hope you shoot yourself in the foot at the next elections why can you not do one with straw back to where you came from.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more BlackburnBadger
  • Score: 16

3:19pm Tue 11 Mar 14

The Fair Word says...

I think it's safe to say that this will come as a personal blow to all of the towns dog owners.
However, many people will be furious at the fact that they are being told what to do with their dogs. I am a responsible dog owner and have had my dog for many years. I love him to bits and he is very well cared for and looked after. As much as I love him, I ALWAYS keep him on a lead when in public. This is to protect not only my dog but the general public too. Far too many times have I encountered little chavs with their 'staffies' and 'rotties' trying to wind my dog up. I have often seen many stupid and irresponsible dog owners leaving their dogs to run around in children's playgrounds and when told to put it on a lead, he response is 'Oh, he's harmless. He won't bite'. Yeah right !! Do you know what your dog is thinking ? Is it fair for a group of children at the age of 5 or 6 to be intimidated by dogs running around them while they are trying to play in what should be a safe area ?
Wake up people, these restrictions are there for the safety of the public and this is not the council having a go at all dog owners. If your dog is well behaved, then you won't have any problems. These restrictions are in place to help deal with the ever growing problems of reckless parents buying their kids 'status dogs' and then not being able to look after it therefore allowing it to go wild. Public places are there for the public.
I think it's safe to say that this will come as a personal blow to all of the towns dog owners. However, many people will be furious at the fact that they are being told what to do with their dogs. I am a responsible dog owner and have had my dog for many years. I love him to bits and he is very well cared for and looked after. As much as I love him, I ALWAYS keep him on a lead when in public. This is to protect not only my dog but the general public too. Far too many times have I encountered little chavs with their 'staffies' and 'rotties' trying to wind my dog up. I have often seen many stupid and irresponsible dog owners leaving their dogs to run around in children's playgrounds and when told to put it on a lead, he response is 'Oh, he's harmless. He won't bite'. Yeah right !! Do you know what your dog is thinking ? Is it fair for a group of children at the age of 5 or 6 to be intimidated by dogs running around them while they are trying to play in what should be a safe area ? Wake up people, these restrictions are there for the safety of the public and this is not the council having a go at all dog owners. If your dog is well behaved, then you won't have any problems. These restrictions are in place to help deal with the ever growing problems of reckless parents buying their kids 'status dogs' and then not being able to look after it therefore allowing it to go wild. Public places are there for the public. The Fair Word
  • Score: 12

3:36pm Tue 11 Mar 14

past it says...

To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.
To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners. past it
  • Score: 2

4:23pm Tue 11 Mar 14

brfc says...

past it wrote:
To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.
To Human Beings..... if your fellow human beings had behaved responsibly then we would not have to ban the reproduction between humans!!

And protect against non dog owners... so because you own a dog, you deserve to be mauled by one?!

Neither of them statements seem to be reasoned opinions
[quote][p][bold]past it[/bold] wrote: To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.[/p][/quote]To Human Beings..... if your fellow human beings had behaved responsibly then we would not have to ban the reproduction between humans!! And protect against non dog owners... so because you own a dog, you deserve to be mauled by one?! Neither of them statements seem to be reasoned opinions brfc
  • Score: 3

4:26pm Tue 11 Mar 14

brfc says...

Elegant1 wrote:
I am glad that the council has seen fit to take this action so I say it's not before time!
Unsupervised dogs should not be allowed into the children's play areas on safety grounds, and all dogs should be muzzled when in public areas at all times. It is too late once an attack takes place and injuries occur.
Dog owners are careless in the extreme when they allow their dogs to run freely in public parks. Off the lead they are unsupervised and free to attack at will!
The Council will be pushed to monitor this edict as they are with dog-fouling in general.
ha-ha "free to attack at will"???

I'm allowed to walk into a park and "attack at will" what's the carte Blanche nanny state solution to that?
[quote][p][bold]Elegant1[/bold] wrote: I am glad that the council has seen fit to take this action so I say it's not before time! Unsupervised dogs should not be allowed into the children's play areas on safety grounds, and all dogs should be muzzled when in public areas at all times. It is too late once an attack takes place and injuries occur. Dog owners are careless in the extreme when they allow their dogs to run freely in public parks. Off the lead they are unsupervised and free to attack at will! The Council will be pushed to monitor this edict as they are with dog-fouling in general.[/p][/quote]ha-ha "free to attack at will"??? I'm allowed to walk into a park and "attack at will" what's the carte Blanche nanny state solution to that? brfc
  • Score: 5

4:33pm Tue 11 Mar 14

brfc says...

BlackburnBadger wrote:
Complete farce, and a prime example of the nanny state. Dogs need exercise and can't always get the exercise needed on a walk on a lead. I do agree with playgrounds as it's not an area you would normally exercise your dog, and although I've never had much time for cllr Hollern in general this must be one of her more idiotic motions. I walk my dog in the old Blackburn cemetery between Roe Lee and Sunnybower, and yes there are those who don't pick up after their dogs, but for one that's never monitored so I don't understand how this will be either. Secondly I'd also like to point out that dog walkers are the few people who go in that cemetery and keep it tidy as the council seem to have forgotten it's there.
Agree completely and I'm pretty sure there will be a tonne of litter in every park you visit, what's next a total ban of people in there?!

I not only pick up after my dog, but also end up picking up litter on a daily basis... litter such as broken glass etc. that's potentially harmful to my dog and any poor child that could be around
[quote][p][bold]BlackburnBadger[/bold] wrote: Complete farce, and a prime example of the nanny state. Dogs need exercise and can't always get the exercise needed on a walk on a lead. I do agree with playgrounds as it's not an area you would normally exercise your dog, and although I've never had much time for cllr Hollern in general this must be one of her more idiotic motions. I walk my dog in the old Blackburn cemetery between Roe Lee and Sunnybower, and yes there are those who don't pick up after their dogs, but for one that's never monitored so I don't understand how this will be either. Secondly I'd also like to point out that dog walkers are the few people who go in that cemetery and keep it tidy as the council seem to have forgotten it's there.[/p][/quote]Agree completely and I'm pretty sure there will be a tonne of litter in every park you visit, what's next a total ban of people in there?! I not only pick up after my dog, but also end up picking up litter on a daily basis... litter such as broken glass etc. that's potentially harmful to my dog and any poor child that could be around brfc
  • Score: 7

4:36pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mmickk says...

George Khan wrote:
Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction
It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs
You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction
As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs
You just have to look at that lunatic Winston
Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm
We need to safeguard public areas and children
And make sure that nobody comes to harm
If you want to safeguard public areas whats the chances of walking away from a cricket ball hitting you on the back of the head. If you want to make parks safe what about the model aircraft motorbikes the list is endless why not just ban people and have done with it.
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs You just have to look at that lunatic Winston Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm We need to safeguard public areas and children And make sure that nobody comes to harm[/p][/quote]If you want to safeguard public areas whats the chances of walking away from a cricket ball hitting you on the back of the head. If you want to make parks safe what about the model aircraft motorbikes the list is endless why not just ban people and have done with it. mmickk
  • Score: 6

4:44pm Tue 11 Mar 14

George Khan says...

Mick putter, cricket balls and model airplanes have their own navigation
They don’t propel or deliberately land on passing people
Winston and his sort have a dangerous intention
Either to foul anywhere or bite backsides, plain and simple
Mick putter, cricket balls and model airplanes have their own navigation They don’t propel or deliberately land on passing people Winston and his sort have a dangerous intention Either to foul anywhere or bite backsides, plain and simple George Khan
  • Score: -8

4:54pm Tue 11 Mar 14

brfc says...

George Khan wrote:
Mick putter, cricket balls and model airplanes have their own navigation
They don’t propel or deliberately land on passing people
Winston and his sort have a dangerous intention
Either to foul anywhere or bite backsides, plain and simple
Can we eliminate wasps then , they sting backsides and foul from the skies like a B52 bomber in WWII
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Mick putter, cricket balls and model airplanes have their own navigation They don’t propel or deliberately land on passing people Winston and his sort have a dangerous intention Either to foul anywhere or bite backsides, plain and simple[/p][/quote]Can we eliminate wasps then , they sting backsides and foul from the skies like a B52 bomber in WWII brfc
  • Score: 6

5:16pm Tue 11 Mar 14

past it says...

BRFC, it may be time to take a chill pill, I take it you have a dog and wish to take it for a nice pleasant walk, I also wish to go on a dog free walk with out having to do the dog poo dodge, and for children to play with out fear of of dogs, its a sad day when someone puts dogs before their fellow human beings.
BRFC, it may be time to take a chill pill, I take it you have a dog and wish to take it for a nice pleasant walk, I also wish to go on a dog free walk with out having to do the dog poo dodge, and for children to play with out fear of of dogs, its a sad day when someone puts dogs before their fellow human beings. past it
  • Score: 2

5:55pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mmickk says...

brfc wrote:
BlackburnBadger wrote:
Complete farce, and a prime example of the nanny state. Dogs need exercise and can't always get the exercise needed on a walk on a lead. I do agree with playgrounds as it's not an area you would normally exercise your dog, and although I've never had much time for cllr Hollern in general this must be one of her more idiotic motions. I walk my dog in the old Blackburn cemetery between Roe Lee and Sunnybower, and yes there are those who don't pick up after their dogs, but for one that's never monitored so I don't understand how this will be either. Secondly I'd also like to point out that dog walkers are the few people who go in that cemetery and keep it tidy as the council seem to have forgotten it's there.
Agree completely and I'm pretty sure there will be a tonne of litter in every park you visit, what's next a total ban of people in there?!

I not only pick up after my dog, but also end up picking up litter on a daily basis... litter such as broken glass etc. that's potentially harmful to my dog and any poor child that could be around
At the end of the day their are two dog wardens to cover Blackburn with Darwen this is hollern just point scoring. I would love to hear her master plan on how the hell she has worked out how to put it into practice when their has been dog fouling laws and yet there is hardly anyone caught and prosecuted for that. I'm all for coming down hard on them that need punishing but as usual its the responsible ones that suffer.
[quote][p][bold]brfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlackburnBadger[/bold] wrote: Complete farce, and a prime example of the nanny state. Dogs need exercise and can't always get the exercise needed on a walk on a lead. I do agree with playgrounds as it's not an area you would normally exercise your dog, and although I've never had much time for cllr Hollern in general this must be one of her more idiotic motions. I walk my dog in the old Blackburn cemetery between Roe Lee and Sunnybower, and yes there are those who don't pick up after their dogs, but for one that's never monitored so I don't understand how this will be either. Secondly I'd also like to point out that dog walkers are the few people who go in that cemetery and keep it tidy as the council seem to have forgotten it's there.[/p][/quote]Agree completely and I'm pretty sure there will be a tonne of litter in every park you visit, what's next a total ban of people in there?! I not only pick up after my dog, but also end up picking up litter on a daily basis... litter such as broken glass etc. that's potentially harmful to my dog and any poor child that could be around[/p][/quote]At the end of the day their are two dog wardens to cover Blackburn with Darwen this is hollern just point scoring. I would love to hear her master plan on how the hell she has worked out how to put it into practice when their has been dog fouling laws and yet there is hardly anyone caught and prosecuted for that. I'm all for coming down hard on them that need punishing but as usual its the responsible ones that suffer. mmickk
  • Score: 7

5:58pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mmickk says...

past it wrote:
To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.
Just more left wing red tape the same that has brought this country to its knees.
[quote][p][bold]past it[/bold] wrote: To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.[/p][/quote]Just more left wing red tape the same that has brought this country to its knees. mmickk
  • Score: 8

6:10pm Tue 11 Mar 14

past it says...

mmickk wrote:
past it wrote:
To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.
Just more left wing red tape the same that has brought this country to its knees.
Agree with that and who is going to enforce it?
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]past it[/bold] wrote: To dog owners, if your fellow owners had behaved responsibly then this would not be going ahead. but what do you put first dogs or children, well done Kate Hollern for doing something to protect our children and all non dog owners.[/p][/quote]Just more left wing red tape the same that has brought this country to its knees.[/p][/quote]Agree with that and who is going to enforce it? past it
  • Score: 5

6:37pm Tue 11 Mar 14

sen c b l says...

brfc wrote:
George Khan wrote:
Mick putter, cricket balls and model airplanes have their own navigation
They don’t propel or deliberately land on passing people
Winston and his sort have a dangerous intention
Either to foul anywhere or bite backsides, plain and simple
Can we eliminate wasps then , they sting backsides and foul from the skies like a B52 bomber in WWII
That's only of you've exposed your 8utt that is!
[quote][p][bold]brfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Mick putter, cricket balls and model airplanes have their own navigation They don’t propel or deliberately land on passing people Winston and his sort have a dangerous intention Either to foul anywhere or bite backsides, plain and simple[/p][/quote]Can we eliminate wasps then , they sting backsides and foul from the skies like a B52 bomber in WWII[/p][/quote]That's only of you've exposed your 8utt that is! sen c b l
  • Score: -3

6:41pm Tue 11 Mar 14

vendetta1964 says...

my my how narrow minded are some people blame ALL dog owners for the bad owners. As an owner of 2 dogs i agree that there should be controls on the area they are allowed ie play areas and sports pitches they should not be allowed there but open grassed area then yes why should these areas not be used
what is needed it better and more enforcement and public humiliation of bad owners
also the council need to pull there finger out as a group of dog walkers asked the council if they would install a dog waste bin to be told simply NO
as for Kate Hollern stop trying to big yourself up and do us all a favour and RETIRE this town is drowning in fly tipping and illegal dumping and you target legitimate dog owner you really are a joke
my my how narrow minded are some people blame ALL dog owners for the bad owners. As an owner of 2 dogs i agree that there should be controls on the area they are allowed ie play areas and sports pitches they should not be allowed there but open grassed area then yes why should these areas not be used what is needed it better and more enforcement and public humiliation of bad owners also the council need to pull there finger out as a group of dog walkers asked the council if they would install a dog waste bin to be told simply NO as for Kate Hollern stop trying to big yourself up and do us all a favour and RETIRE this town is drowning in fly tipping and illegal dumping and you target legitimate dog owner you really are a joke vendetta1964
  • Score: 8

6:43pm Tue 11 Mar 14

phil kernot says...

People who excercise dogs on playing fields and graveyards. are selfish idiots , I've got a dog but know there's plenty of open space else were ,,, people who don't pick up from there dog should be fined ,, just laziness ... Owners with aggressive dogs should be muzzled and that goes for the dogs too :)
People who excercise dogs on playing fields and graveyards. are selfish idiots , I've got a dog but know there's plenty of open space else were ,,, people who don't pick up from there dog should be fined ,, just laziness ... Owners with aggressive dogs should be muzzled and that goes for the dogs too :) phil kernot
  • Score: -4

8:54pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mmickk says...

George Khan wrote:
Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction
It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs
You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction
As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs
You just have to look at that lunatic Winston
Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm
We need to safeguard public areas and children
And make sure that nobody comes to harm
And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs You just have to look at that lunatic Winston Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm We need to safeguard public areas and children And make sure that nobody comes to harm[/p][/quote]And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction. mmickk
  • Score: 4

9:10pm Tue 11 Mar 14

salvadore says...

mmickk wrote:
George Khan wrote:
Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction
It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs
You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction
As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs
You just have to look at that lunatic Winston
Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm
We need to safeguard public areas and children
And make sure that nobody comes to harm
And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.
What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public.
As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs You just have to look at that lunatic Winston Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm We need to safeguard public areas and children And make sure that nobody comes to harm[/p][/quote]And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public. As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community. salvadore
  • Score: 0

9:37pm Tue 11 Mar 14

mmickk says...

salvadore wrote:
mmickk wrote:
George Khan wrote:
Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction
It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs
You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction
As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs
You just have to look at that lunatic Winston
Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm
We need to safeguard public areas and children
And make sure that nobody comes to harm
And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.
What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public.
As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.
Get in there plonker where theirs a blame theirs a claim typical. All responsible dog owners have insurance they cost a small fortune to keep so make sure you pick on a well groomed dog with a well dressed owner and bingo you have found a new insurance scam!!!
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs You just have to look at that lunatic Winston Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm We need to safeguard public areas and children And make sure that nobody comes to harm[/p][/quote]And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public. As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.[/p][/quote]Get in there plonker where theirs a blame theirs a claim typical. All responsible dog owners have insurance they cost a small fortune to keep so make sure you pick on a well groomed dog with a well dressed owner and bingo you have found a new insurance scam!!! mmickk
  • Score: 4

9:46pm Tue 11 Mar 14

salvadore says...

mmickk wrote:
salvadore wrote:
mmickk wrote:
George Khan wrote:
Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction
It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs
You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction
As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs
You just have to look at that lunatic Winston
Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm
We need to safeguard public areas and children
And make sure that nobody comes to harm
And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.
What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public.
As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.
Get in there plonker where theirs a blame theirs a claim typical. All responsible dog owners have insurance they cost a small fortune to keep so make sure you pick on a well groomed dog with a well dressed owner and bingo you have found a new insurance scam!!!
No scam plonk, we're not that desperate. It's called paying for your irresponsibility. It's restorative justice, I guarantee not all owners have insurance. Let's put it this way I'd sue the **** of any owner who attacked me or my family member. Too many incidents have happened where dogs have attacked family members by dogs which were harmless pets. What chance does a stranger have.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs You just have to look at that lunatic Winston Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm We need to safeguard public areas and children And make sure that nobody comes to harm[/p][/quote]And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public. As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.[/p][/quote]Get in there plonker where theirs a blame theirs a claim typical. All responsible dog owners have insurance they cost a small fortune to keep so make sure you pick on a well groomed dog with a well dressed owner and bingo you have found a new insurance scam!!![/p][/quote]No scam plonk, we're not that desperate. It's called paying for your irresponsibility. It's restorative justice, I guarantee not all owners have insurance. Let's put it this way I'd sue the **** of any owner who attacked me or my family member. Too many incidents have happened where dogs have attacked family members by dogs which were harmless pets. What chance does a stranger have. salvadore
  • Score: -1

10:00pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Good call says...

If one of the council nazis tries to fine you for the atrocity that is letting your dog off it's lead, walk away, walk away without saying anything. They can't detain you.
If one of the council nazis tries to fine you for the atrocity that is letting your dog off it's lead, walk away, walk away without saying anything. They can't detain you. Good call
  • Score: 2

10:11pm Tue 11 Mar 14

salvadore says...

Good call wrote:
If one of the council nazis tries to fine you for the atrocity that is letting your dog off it's lead, walk away, walk away without saying anything. They can't detain you.
How typical, looking at ways to avoid the law. well they can seize the dog , I'm sure the owners won't be bothered.
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: If one of the council nazis tries to fine you for the atrocity that is letting your dog off it's lead, walk away, walk away without saying anything. They can't detain you.[/p][/quote]How typical, looking at ways to avoid the law. well they can seize the dog , I'm sure the owners won't be bothered. salvadore
  • Score: 2

12:46am Wed 12 Mar 14

doylerf says...

we can see who is chasing the **** vote.
we can see who is chasing the **** vote. doylerf
  • Score: 0

12:53am Wed 12 Mar 14

doylerf says...

Surely, if the land around the cathedral belongs to the idiot church, it would be a civil matter not criminal. It isn't public land.
Surely, if the land around the cathedral belongs to the idiot church, it would be a civil matter not criminal. It isn't public land. doylerf
  • Score: 4

7:44am Wed 12 Mar 14

salvadore says...

doylerf wrote:
we can see who is chasing the **** vote.
Tut tut tut tut, the new law is past by a majority not jus one person. You must be naïeve to think non whites vote for a party based on one little issue like dogs in public places being banned.
[quote][p][bold]doylerf[/bold] wrote: we can see who is chasing the **** vote.[/p][/quote]Tut tut tut tut, the new law is past by a majority not jus one person. You must be naïeve to think non whites vote for a party based on one little issue like dogs in public places being banned. salvadore
  • Score: 2

9:01am Wed 12 Mar 14

brfc says...

past it wrote:
BRFC, it may be time to take a chill pill, I take it you have a dog and wish to take it for a nice pleasant walk, I also wish to go on a dog free walk with out having to do the dog poo dodge, and for children to play with out fear of of dogs, its a sad day when someone puts dogs before their fellow human beings.
I'm not sure where you get the idea i have put a dog before a fellow Human?

Im not even sure, if you actually read comments properly, where i said i actually disagreed with the proposals?

For the record, i have a dog and i do not for one second disagree that owners should clean up after them, because a own a dog does not automatically mean i love dog mess on my shoes!

FYI when a dog is on a lead it will still need to pass waste so the cynic in me says that the people who currently don't clean up after their pets, still wont!!

Also for the record, i agree with the proposals of dogs being on their leads in cemetery (who in their right mind lets any animal, or other human for that matter, walk over other peoples graves?!)or enclosed playground where children are...

My annoyance is with the narrow minded nonsense that people spout... so i agree i want to go for a nice pleasant walk with my dog and not have to avoid dog mess... but i also don't want to have to avoid endless amounts of litter.. id love to hear your solution to that?
[quote][p][bold]past it[/bold] wrote: BRFC, it may be time to take a chill pill, I take it you have a dog and wish to take it for a nice pleasant walk, I also wish to go on a dog free walk with out having to do the dog poo dodge, and for children to play with out fear of of dogs, its a sad day when someone puts dogs before their fellow human beings.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure where you get the idea i have put a dog before a fellow Human? Im not even sure, if you actually read comments properly, where i said i actually disagreed with the proposals? For the record, i have a dog and i do not for one second disagree that owners should clean up after them, because a own a dog does not automatically mean i love dog mess on my shoes! FYI when a dog is on a lead it will still need to pass waste so the cynic in me says that the people who currently don't clean up after their pets, still wont!! Also for the record, i agree with the proposals of dogs being on their leads in cemetery (who in their right mind lets any animal, or other human for that matter, walk over other peoples graves?!)or enclosed playground where children are... My annoyance is with the narrow minded nonsense that people spout... so i agree i want to go for a nice pleasant walk with my dog and not have to avoid dog mess... but i also don't want to have to avoid endless amounts of litter.. id love to hear your solution to that? brfc
  • Score: 2

9:36am Wed 12 Mar 14

brfc says...

salvadore wrote:
mmickk wrote:
George Khan wrote:
Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction
It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs
You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction
As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs
You just have to look at that lunatic Winston
Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm
We need to safeguard public areas and children
And make sure that nobody comes to harm
And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.
What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public.
As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.
"You must be naïeve to think non whites vote for a party based on one little issue like dogs in public places being banned."

To make sure i am commenting on the right thing, the article states:

Dogs are banned from enclosed play areas- We really need a councillor to tell us this?

Dogs need to be on a lead in a cemetery or church grounds- Again,we really need a councillor to tell us this?

Dogs can be ordered to be put on a lead on certain playing fields- OK, this solves the following problems:

Fouling- Oh hang on if it's on a lead it still needs to poo? ****!

Attacks- It says a lead... OK if im the type of person that this is aimed at - my dog is on a lead... but its a 30 metre lead so it can still do what it wants!

The problem really isn't the dogs, humans and dogs have coexisted for hundreds of years.. its the owners, and more to the point today's society... never has there been so many dogs bought for fighting, or owning a banned dog been such a 'Status Symbol'.

Because of this every person that owns a dog, is an irresponsible, killer owning human?
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Salaam putters, I think this is a step in the right direction It’s time to regulate these kuttas, I mean dogs You can’t have kuttas, I mean dogs, roaming without restriction As they’ll be bodies dismembered and dog foul the size of logs You just have to look at that lunatic Winston Biting a chunk out of Postman Patel’s arm We need to safeguard public areas and children And make sure that nobody comes to harm[/p][/quote]And while your on the subject of protecting children in the last few years there has been a lot more cases of child grooming than dog attacks. So think on before you start spouting about animals roaming the streets without restriction.[/p][/quote]What a plonk, firstly dogs are unpredictable animals. The owners aren't necessarily in control of them either. Why do Kids and elderly and the normal joe blogs have to worry about being attacked by dogs when in the parks and other public areas. The owners can't guarantee their dogs won't attack anyone whilst of the lead. Neither should we put up with their pooh all over the parks and streets. Getting hit by a Cricket ball, wasps and anything else for that matter can not be equated to dogs of the lead sometimes dangerous dogs in public places. It's about time they brought this law in, I would go further all dog owners should have insurance to cover any possible attacks on the public. As for grooming I presume you're talking about the 85% committed by the indigenous community.[/p][/quote]"You must be naïeve to think non whites vote for a party based on one little issue like dogs in public places being banned." To make sure i am commenting on the right thing, the article states: Dogs are banned from enclosed play areas- We really need a councillor to tell us this? Dogs need to be on a lead in a cemetery or church grounds- Again,we really need a councillor to tell us this? Dogs can be ordered to be put on a lead on certain playing fields- OK, this solves the following problems: Fouling- Oh hang on if it's on a lead it still needs to poo? ****! Attacks- It says a lead... OK if im the type of person that this is aimed at - my dog is on a lead... but its a 30 metre lead so it can still do what it wants! The problem really isn't the dogs, humans and dogs have coexisted for hundreds of years.. its the owners, and more to the point today's society... never has there been so many dogs bought for fighting, or owning a banned dog been such a 'Status Symbol'. Because of this every person that owns a dog, is an irresponsible, killer owning human? brfc
  • Score: 3

10:11am Wed 12 Mar 14

M.DANNY says...

This town has full of dog mess in our parks, children play area, public footpaths and they are bringing dogs to town centre.It's about time the BwD Council and Police take tough action against the irresponsible dog owners.
We had a small child killed by a dog, a young girl was attacked by a dog and postman was bitten by a dog.
Blackburn is mess with dog mess.
This town has full of dog mess in our parks, children play area, public footpaths and they are bringing dogs to town centre.It's about time the BwD Council and Police take tough action against the irresponsible dog owners. We had a small child killed by a dog, a young girl was attacked by a dog and postman was bitten by a dog. Blackburn is mess with dog mess. M.DANNY
  • Score: 2

10:54am Wed 12 Mar 14

GracesDad says...

Simple answer to this issue without upsetting the dog owners....any dog out in public must wear a muzzle and a nappy. Problems all solved!!!!
Simple answer to this issue without upsetting the dog owners....any dog out in public must wear a muzzle and a nappy. Problems all solved!!!! GracesDad
  • Score: -2

11:20am Wed 12 Mar 14

George Khan says...

Hello putters, I think there is one solution to this problem
All dangerous dog owners/lovers need to be quarantined
In places like Mill Hill, Roman Road and areas where this is troublesome
Then we will have a curb in danger guaranteed
It won’t blody surprise me if we have sort of mutation
When dog lovers and kuttas, I mean dogs start to breed
There will be lots of hybrid Winston/ Mmmick in circulation
Biting, fouling and growling in every sectioned street
Hello putters, I think there is one solution to this problem All dangerous dog owners/lovers need to be quarantined In places like Mill Hill, Roman Road and areas where this is troublesome Then we will have a curb in danger guaranteed It won’t blody surprise me if we have sort of mutation When dog lovers and kuttas, I mean dogs start to breed There will be lots of hybrid Winston/ Mmmick in circulation Biting, fouling and growling in every sectioned street George Khan
  • Score: -5

12:04pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Joseph O'M says...

Elegant1 wrote:
I am glad that the council has seen fit to take this action so I say it's not before time!
Unsupervised dogs should not be allowed into the children's play areas on safety grounds, and all dogs should be muzzled when in public areas at all times. It is too late once an attack takes place and injuries occur.
Dog owners are careless in the extreme when they allow their dogs to run freely in public parks. Off the lead they are unsupervised and free to attack at will!
The Council will be pushed to monitor this edict as they are with dog-fouling in general.
How many dog attacks have occurred in public parks in Blackburn in the last 10 years?
[quote][p][bold]Elegant1[/bold] wrote: I am glad that the council has seen fit to take this action so I say it's not before time! Unsupervised dogs should not be allowed into the children's play areas on safety grounds, and all dogs should be muzzled when in public areas at all times. It is too late once an attack takes place and injuries occur. Dog owners are careless in the extreme when they allow their dogs to run freely in public parks. Off the lead they are unsupervised and free to attack at will! The Council will be pushed to monitor this edict as they are with dog-fouling in general.[/p][/quote]How many dog attacks have occurred in public parks in Blackburn in the last 10 years? Joseph O'M
  • Score: 1

12:04pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Joseph O'M says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
There are also people who let their dogs poop but don't put the mess into doggie poop bags;these should also face the same action.
Usually on the pavement though...
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: There are also people who let their dogs poop but don't put the mess into doggie poop bags;these should also face the same action.[/p][/quote]Usually on the pavement though... Joseph O'M
  • Score: 1

12:06pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Joseph O'M says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
There are also people who let their dogs poop but don't put the mess into doggie poop bags;these should also face the same action.
Sanctions for dog fouling are already in place. In the same way as responsible people abide the law, irresponsible dog owners who raise their dogs in violence or fear will have the most dangerous dogs, and these are also the people least likely to adhere to this regulation...
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: There are also people who let their dogs poop but don't put the mess into doggie poop bags;these should also face the same action.[/p][/quote]Sanctions for dog fouling are already in place. In the same way as responsible people abide the law, irresponsible dog owners who raise their dogs in violence or fear will have the most dangerous dogs, and these are also the people least likely to adhere to this regulation... Joseph O'M
  • Score: 2

12:12pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Joseph O'M says...

The most dangerous thing that happens in Pleasington Playing Fields is cars driving at 2 or 3 times the 15mph speed limit. You're far more likely to be knocked down than bitten by a dog there....no one seems to bother about that though...
The most dangerous thing that happens in Pleasington Playing Fields is cars driving at 2 or 3 times the 15mph speed limit. You're far more likely to be knocked down than bitten by a dog there....no one seems to bother about that though... Joseph O'M
  • Score: 1

12:34pm Wed 12 Mar 14

mmickk says...

George Khan wrote:
Hello putters, I think there is one solution to this problem
All dangerous dog owners/lovers need to be quarantined
In places like Mill Hill, Roman Road and areas where this is troublesome
Then we will have a curb in danger guaranteed
It won’t blody surprise me if we have sort of mutation
When dog lovers and kuttas, I mean dogs start to breed
There will be lots of hybrid Winston/ Mmmick in circulation
Biting, fouling and growling in every sectioned street
Try looking at your own clan inbreds child grooming kiddie fiddlers sort your own filth out and leave us respectable dog owners alone.
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: Hello putters, I think there is one solution to this problem All dangerous dog owners/lovers need to be quarantined In places like Mill Hill, Roman Road and areas where this is troublesome Then we will have a curb in danger guaranteed It won’t blody surprise me if we have sort of mutation When dog lovers and kuttas, I mean dogs start to breed There will be lots of hybrid Winston/ Mmmick in circulation Biting, fouling and growling in every sectioned street[/p][/quote]Try looking at your own clan inbreds child grooming kiddie fiddlers sort your own filth out and leave us respectable dog owners alone. mmickk
  • Score: 1

1:09pm Wed 12 Mar 14

George Khan says...

Mmmmmick, you really are a dog with a bone
These stereotypes don’t even stick
Unlike the dog foul that covers every street and road
Kiddie-fiddling, grooming? Sounds like a total gimmick
Stats have shown such acts are mostly done by indigenous community
A bit like rampant rabid dogs who breed within
I hope the RSPCA takes note of your dog loving activity
Because we may have a big problem looming
You and Winston wreaking havoc uncontrollably
And producing hybrid litters everywhere for grooming
Mmmmmick, you really are a dog with a bone These stereotypes don’t even stick Unlike the dog foul that covers every street and road Kiddie-fiddling, grooming? Sounds like a total gimmick Stats have shown such acts are mostly done by indigenous community A bit like rampant rabid dogs who breed within I hope the RSPCA takes note of your dog loving activity Because we may have a big problem looming You and Winston wreaking havoc uncontrollably And producing hybrid litters everywhere for grooming George Khan
  • Score: 0

3:24pm Wed 12 Mar 14

George Khan says...

There aren’t many kuttas, I mean dogs in my beloved Pakistan
They aren’t allowed to roam freely in places inhabited by man
Of the few you see, they are very obedient and meek
They don’t bark or growl or dirty any alley or street
A contrast to the British kutta, testosterone driven with a siege mentality
Just like it’s owners, growling at anyone savagely
There aren’t many kuttas, I mean dogs in my beloved Pakistan They aren’t allowed to roam freely in places inhabited by man Of the few you see, they are very obedient and meek They don’t bark or growl or dirty any alley or street A contrast to the British kutta, testosterone driven with a siege mentality Just like it’s owners, growling at anyone savagely George Khan
  • Score: -1

3:45pm Wed 12 Mar 14

brfc says...

George Khan wrote:
There aren’t many kuttas, I mean dogs in my beloved Pakistan
They aren’t allowed to roam freely in places inhabited by man
Of the few you see, they are very obedient and meek
They don’t bark or growl or dirty any alley or street
A contrast to the British kutta, testosterone driven with a siege mentality
Just like it’s owners, growling at anyone savagely
I have to agree, this country has gone to the dogs now!!

Literally you cant walk anywhere without seeing a stinking, horrible brown thing on the street!
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: There aren’t many kuttas, I mean dogs in my beloved Pakistan They aren’t allowed to roam freely in places inhabited by man Of the few you see, they are very obedient and meek They don’t bark or growl or dirty any alley or street A contrast to the British kutta, testosterone driven with a siege mentality Just like it’s owners, growling at anyone savagely[/p][/quote]I have to agree, this country has gone to the dogs now!! Literally you cant walk anywhere without seeing a stinking, horrible brown thing on the street! brfc
  • Score: 1

4:05pm Wed 12 Mar 14

George Khan says...

BRFC, I sense the stench of bigotry
The only brown things on the street I see are dog deposits
And I see them in areas of the indigenous majority
Litterred everywhere, like a dog diahorrea blitz
To not walk on it you have to be very lucky
I think it’s time to adopt the dog laws of my beloved Pakistan-
‘Two legs good, four legs bad!’ should be the new policy
But you are a dog and not an upstanding man
You’re on all fours everytime you have a lager and curry
BRFC, I sense the stench of bigotry The only brown things on the street I see are dog deposits And I see them in areas of the indigenous majority Litterred everywhere, like a dog diahorrea blitz To not walk on it you have to be very lucky I think it’s time to adopt the dog laws of my beloved Pakistan- ‘Two legs good, four legs bad!’ should be the new policy But you are a dog and not an upstanding man You’re on all fours everytime you have a lager and curry George Khan
  • Score: 1

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