Fracking debate to highlight East Lancashire implications

Blackburn Citizen: Anti-fracking protesters state their case earlier this year at Barton Moss, Greater Mancheste Anti-fracking protesters state their case earlier this year at Barton Moss, Greater Mancheste

A MAJOR debate on shale gas extraction, fracking, and its implications for East Lancashire is set to take place on Monday.

Last December the Lancashire Telegraph revealed that swathes of the M65 corridor from north of Blackburn through Burnley, Pendle and parts of the Rossendale Valley could be potential sites for the process – the hydraulic fracturing of shale rock to reclaim gas.

And North East Lancashire TUC is now bringing together the main supporters of the process and two opponents for a public forum at Burnley Mechanics.

The announcement comes as East Lancashire Chamber of Commerce and three leading academics have thrown their weight behind the fracking cause.

Mike Damms, chief executive of the local chamber, has backed economics professors Jim Taylor, Alasdair MacBean and Robert Rothschild, of Lancaster University, who have signed a letter to the Financial Times, calling on politicians to stop using fracking as a ‘political football’ and work towards safely developing it as an alternative energy source.

The Burnley event will see officials from Cuadrilla, already granted licences on the Fylde, debate with two environmentalists on the subject of fracking.

In opposition will be Dr Brian Parkin, from Leeds University, and Martin Empson, who has wrote several environmental works.

Peter Thorne, of the TUC group, said: “The debate will be held in Question Time style with speakers given 10 minutes for their opening remarks and then questions from the audience.”

Organisers are urging people to attend and hear the arguments from both sides, covering a range of perceived benefits and disadvantages, at the Manchester Road venue from 7.30pm.

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3:32pm Thu 27 Feb 14

mmickk says...

If it effects the water table which it will you will end up with abnormal births ie six fingers and toes three heads ugly woman so it will not make any difference to the folk of Bunleh in fact three heads is why they get 11000 at turd moor!
If it effects the water table which it will you will end up with abnormal births ie six fingers and toes three heads ugly woman so it will not make any difference to the folk of Bunleh in fact three heads is why they get 11000 at turd moor! mmickk
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5:31pm Thu 27 Feb 14

phil kernot says...

That's why the Americans are all messed up , thay tried it there and it was causing gas to come out the taps etc , why can't the goverment do it in the posh area not the working class area think you can bribe the so called under class with money camoron your a joke with your eaton boys who have shares in these company ,, and if any one says we need energy there's other ways to make it , water is more precious to life than electric ,,, so get a grip ..
That's why the Americans are all messed up , thay tried it there and it was causing gas to come out the taps etc , why can't the goverment do it in the posh area not the working class area think you can bribe the so called under class with money camoron your a joke with your eaton boys who have shares in these company ,, and if any one says we need energy there's other ways to make it , water is more precious to life than electric ,,, so get a grip .. phil kernot
  • Score: 0

7:49pm Thu 27 Feb 14

jogalot says...

Fracking more than doubles odds of low birth weight babies
http://www.texasshar
on.com/2014/01/05/pr
oximity-to-fracking-
more-than-doubles-od
ds-of-low-birth-weig
ht-babies/

4 USA States confirm fracking pollutes their water
http://www.usatoday.
com/story/money/busi
ness/2014/01/05/some
-states-confirm-wate
r-pollution-from-dri
lling/4328859/

There's tons more. It's unlikely the debate will get to the truth. It will be about trying to sell fracking because all the usual evil suspects can make money out of it.
Fracking more than doubles odds of low birth weight babies http://www.texasshar on.com/2014/01/05/pr oximity-to-fracking- more-than-doubles-od ds-of-low-birth-weig ht-babies/ 4 USA States confirm fracking pollutes their water http://www.usatoday. com/story/money/busi ness/2014/01/05/some -states-confirm-wate r-pollution-from-dri lling/4328859/ There's tons more. It's unlikely the debate will get to the truth. It will be about trying to sell fracking because all the usual evil suspects can make money out of it. jogalot
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12:28am Mon 3 Mar 14

Standing by says...

Here's a few of the many issues to contemplate --

These very deep "unconventional" wells, considered for East Lancs, will be dug into TWO potential sources of gas -- in the Coal Measures and in the Bowland shale strata deeper down.
By modern directional drilling lateral well pipes will be constructed, splaying outwards a mile or so from each vertical well along any layers with gas potential. . Take note -- Our Government is in the process of removing the requirement for surface occupants to be notified when drilling is to go beneath their property.

This work is totally different form coal mining where there was always a concern to remove water. This drilling process adds chemically laced water at incredibly high pressure, devised to flood and penetrate underground.

Gas will not be released from the target rocks until they are deliberately disturbed by explosions. The fractures thus caused are then widened further by water pressure..
So they are totally different from the old "conventional" shallow wells, such as that at Elswick in the Fylde. In such cases gas rises naturally and any "fracking" to encourage this natural flow has been only on a very small scale.

There's been only ONE well in the UK so far which has had some fracturing by the unconventional high volume hydraulic fracturing method.. .This was the Preese Hall well at Weeton in the Fylde -- where the work by the Cuadrilla company triggered earthquakes and deformed the well.

Gas flow from fracked wells soon slows and wells go dud. Some re-fracking may be done, but will not produce as much as in the first flush.
Therefore repeated drilling of brand new wells is required to target fresh areas of rock..
Ultimately MANY THOUSANDS of wells will have to be dug to hope to extract enough gas to make a profit.

An enormous amount of haulage is needed to bring in supplies to each well and remove toxic and radio active waste water..

Consider ONE item -- These long lateral wells use huge amounts of silica sand to prop open the man-made fractures in the rocks. About 5,000 metric tonnes are needed to drill and frack ONE WELL . Where will the sand be brought from? Cuadrilla got it from Congleton and their Chief Ops Officer says they will continue to source from there. Sand is not stockpiled on the drilling pad. When fracking is underway, wagon convoys will clog the road network. And bring silicosis risk. when handling.

But there's lots more heavy haulage -- pumps, cement, pipes etc.
And MANY more health issues related to toxic water and air pollution.

DO YOUR OWN INTERNET RESEARCH. if you haven't already.
You could start by exploring the highly regarded FRACK OFF website.

And lastly, the article refers to advice from economists and businessmen. Beware. They are not likely to be scientists or engineers.
Do they realise that this fracked gas, on burning, produces as much CO2 as burning any other fossil fuel. Do they realise that fracking allows methane escapes and that methane is a 21 times more potent greenhouse gas than CO2?
Has the economist and business lobby noted increasing fossil fuel consumption and climate change problems looming in the future?
Here's a few of the many issues to contemplate -- These very deep "unconventional" wells, considered for East Lancs, will be dug into TWO potential sources of gas -- in the Coal Measures and in the Bowland shale strata deeper down. By modern directional drilling lateral well pipes will be constructed, splaying outwards a mile or so from each vertical well along any layers with gas potential. . Take note -- Our Government is in the process of removing the requirement for surface occupants to be notified when drilling is to go beneath their property. This work is totally different form coal mining where there was always a concern to remove water. This drilling process adds chemically laced water at incredibly high pressure, devised to flood and penetrate underground. Gas will not be released from the target rocks until they are deliberately disturbed by explosions. The fractures thus caused are then widened further by water pressure.. So they are totally different from the old "conventional" shallow wells, such as that at Elswick in the Fylde. In such cases gas rises naturally and any "fracking" to encourage this natural flow has been only on a very small scale. There's been only ONE well in the UK so far which has had some fracturing by the unconventional high volume hydraulic fracturing method.. .This was the Preese Hall well at Weeton in the Fylde -- where the work by the Cuadrilla company triggered earthquakes and deformed the well. Gas flow from fracked wells soon slows and wells go dud. Some re-fracking may be done, but will not produce as much as in the first flush. Therefore repeated drilling of brand new wells is required to target fresh areas of rock.. Ultimately MANY THOUSANDS of wells will have to be dug to hope to extract enough gas to make a profit. An enormous amount of haulage is needed to bring in supplies to each well and remove toxic and radio active waste water.. Consider ONE item -- These long lateral wells use huge amounts of silica sand to prop open the man-made fractures in the rocks. About 5,000 metric tonnes are needed to drill and frack ONE WELL . Where will the sand be brought from? Cuadrilla got it from Congleton and their Chief Ops Officer says they will continue to source from there. Sand is not stockpiled on the drilling pad. When fracking is underway, wagon convoys will clog the road network. And bring silicosis risk. when handling. But there's lots more heavy haulage -- pumps, cement, pipes etc. And MANY more health issues related to toxic water and air pollution. DO YOUR OWN INTERNET RESEARCH. if you haven't already. You could start by exploring the highly regarded FRACK OFF website. And lastly, the article refers to advice from economists and businessmen. Beware. They are not likely to be scientists or engineers. Do they realise that this fracked gas, on burning, produces as much CO2 as burning any other fossil fuel. Do they realise that fracking allows methane escapes and that methane is a 21 times more potent greenhouse gas than CO2? Has the economist and business lobby noted increasing fossil fuel consumption and climate change problems looming in the future? Standing by
  • Score: 4

2:58pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Fordprefect123 says...

Wonder why Cuadrilla and the pro-fracking academics didn't show up and didn't even let the chair know? Is the desolate North not even worth consulting before they pillage our resources and pollute our countryside?

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Wonder why Cuadrilla and the pro-fracking academics didn't show up and didn't even let the chair know? Is the desolate North not even worth consulting before they pillage our resources and pollute our countryside? I Fordprefect123
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