Blackburn taxi drivers struggling in 'ghost town'

Blackburn Citizen: Coun Iftakhar Hussain, left, and Mohammed Yunis of Blackburn Taxi Association Coun Iftakhar Hussain, left, and Mohammed Yunis of Blackburn Taxi Association

BLACKBURN Council is to introduce measures to revive the town’s night time economy after taxi drivers, takeaways and licensees said their businesses were struggling.

Taxi drivers said a loss of evening business, combined with rising fuel and maintainence costs and closure of the old bus station left many drivers short of work.

Drivers also say the town’s one-way system causes problems, as having to go the long way round pushes up fares for passengers.

Blackburn Taxi Association chairman Mohammed Yunis, said: “With the one-way system, the bus station going, and no night-tlife at all, we’re struggling. There are not many clubs, and if they could bring nightlife back, that would be better.”

Bastwell councillor Iftakhar Hussain said many taxi drivers had been coming to him with their problems. “I feel sorry for them, some of them are of such an age they can’t change jobs,” he said.

“It looks like a ghost town at night, there’s nothing for people to come into town for.”

Damian Talbot, Blackburn with Darwen Council’s executive member for the leisure, culture and young people said: “It’s about trying anything.

“The economy’s not in the strongest position and people’s drinking habits are changing. From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this.

“With Blakey’s, our licensed venue, we’ve worked very hard to make sure there is a lot going on at the weekends.

“We’re hoping it will all have a knock-on effect. If there are more people in the town centre at night they are going to be using taxis more.”

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3:06pm Mon 10 Feb 14

TONY WALES says...

Not exactly Las Vegas at night is it?
Not exactly Las Vegas at night is it? TONY WALES

3:16pm Mon 10 Feb 14

j bee says...

most young uns i know in ossy accy go yo burnley for a good night out
most young uns i know in ossy accy go yo burnley for a good night out j bee

3:18pm Mon 10 Feb 14

AnthonyUK says...

Blackburn has been dying for years;and the council just let it!
Blackburn has been dying for years;and the council just let it! AnthonyUK

3:41pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Stone Island: says...

As far as nightlife goes, Blackburn is finished. I wouldn't dream of going into the town at night. Hardly any decent pubs left, and as for restaurants, forget it.
As far as nightlife goes, Blackburn is finished. I wouldn't dream of going into the town at night. Hardly any decent pubs left, and as for restaurants, forget it. Stone Island:

3:53pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Blackburn99 says...

We need this town to be revived before its lost - get it back on the map, spend money and do it right.....

Its our town and we want it back
We need this town to be revived before its lost - get it back on the map, spend money and do it right..... Its our town and we want it back Blackburn99

4:13pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Excluded again says...

It's not the Council's job to open and run clubs, pubs and restaurants. The can encourage but in the end if no-one is willing to invest, then nothing will happen.

But look at the slagging off the Council has received for trying to encourage just one hotel into the town centre. Its hardly going to encourage more investment - come to Blackburn and get slagged off is not a proposition that's going attract many businesses.
It's not the Council's job to open and run clubs, pubs and restaurants. The can encourage but in the end if no-one is willing to invest, then nothing will happen. But look at the slagging off the Council has received for trying to encourage just one hotel into the town centre. Its hardly going to encourage more investment - come to Blackburn and get slagged off is not a proposition that's going attract many businesses. Excluded again

4:23pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Pyewacket2 says...

One aspect of this is that there is an over supply, and decreasing demand.
One aspect of this is that there is an over supply, and decreasing demand. Pyewacket2

4:30pm Mon 10 Feb 14

RoverTheHill says...

Fact is its become too expensive for people to go to town now. As they mention here, taxi fares are increasing, alcohol prices are increasing, many clubs charge entry fees.

Social trends are changing as well, i for one would much prefer a few drinks at the weekend at a friends house over a dingy expensive pub to get into a dingy expensive taxi at the end of the night and spend many times more on it than a night at a friends.
Fact is its become too expensive for people to go to town now. As they mention here, taxi fares are increasing, alcohol prices are increasing, many clubs charge entry fees. Social trends are changing as well, i for one would much prefer a few drinks at the weekend at a friends house over a dingy expensive pub to get into a dingy expensive taxi at the end of the night and spend many times more on it than a night at a friends. RoverTheHill

4:32pm Mon 10 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

Perhaps taxi drivers are struggling because there are just too many! Same with take aways. Take Darwen Street for example, in the early 1980's there was just The Happy Haddock chip shop (which had a great rep) but then came the kebab shops - one by one by one by one and look at it now. How many are there? Same thing with taxis, in the early 80's there was about 25% of the taxis that there are today! I accept that Blackburn has lost a lot of it's night time economy, but in my day if you weren't making enough money in a job then youchanged jjobs! You certainly didn't go crying to the council. But hey - hasn't the world changed eh!!!
Perhaps taxi drivers are struggling because there are just too many! Same with take aways. Take Darwen Street for example, in the early 1980's there was just The Happy Haddock chip shop (which had a great rep) but then came the kebab shops - one by one by one by one and look at it now. How many are there? Same thing with taxis, in the early 80's there was about 25% of the taxis that there are today! I accept that Blackburn has lost a lot of it's night time economy, but in my day if you weren't making enough money in a job then youchanged jjobs! You certainly didn't go crying to the council. But hey - hasn't the world changed eh!!! HarryBosch

4:35pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Rumpole says...

People have been complaining for years about the declining nightlife in Blackburn due to the councils meddling with the re-development of the town centre and yet they continued to ruin it for everyone but now the taxi drivers are losing money they want to spend millions more undoing the mess they created to get more people into the town centre?

And people vote for these people?
People have been complaining for years about the declining nightlife in Blackburn due to the councils meddling with the re-development of the town centre and yet they continued to ruin it for everyone but now the taxi drivers are losing money they want to spend millions more undoing the mess they created to get more people into the town centre? And people vote for these people? Rumpole

4:52pm Mon 10 Feb 14

HarryBosch says...

Rumpole wrote:
People have been complaining for years about the declining nightlife in Blackburn due to the councils meddling with the re-development of the town centre and yet they continued to ruin it for everyone but now the taxi drivers are losing money they want to spend millions more undoing the mess they created to get more people into the town centre?

And people vote for these people?
It's not simply that people vote for these people, rather that the majority of people have become so disaffected that they DON'T vote!
[quote][p][bold]Rumpole[/bold] wrote: People have been complaining for years about the declining nightlife in Blackburn due to the councils meddling with the re-development of the town centre and yet they continued to ruin it for everyone but now the taxi drivers are losing money they want to spend millions more undoing the mess they created to get more people into the town centre? And people vote for these people?[/p][/quote]It's not simply that people vote for these people, rather that the majority of people have become so disaffected that they DON'T vote! HarryBosch

4:56pm Mon 10 Feb 14

denidenideni says...

I"ve told you before, get rid of the following:
Dos houses
Halfway houses
parole houses
council
I"ve told you before, get rid of the following: Dos houses Halfway houses parole houses council denidenideni

4:58pm Mon 10 Feb 14

shytalk says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
Blackburn has been dying for years;and the council just let it!
The council caused it.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: Blackburn has been dying for years;and the council just let it![/p][/quote]The council caused it. shytalk

4:58pm Mon 10 Feb 14

shytalk says...

AnthonyUK wrote:
Blackburn has been dying for years;and the council just let it!
The council caused it.
[quote][p][bold]AnthonyUK[/bold] wrote: Blackburn has been dying for years;and the council just let it![/p][/quote]The council caused it. shytalk

5:31pm Mon 10 Feb 14

ghost of sceptic says...

How ironic there is a connection here.The reason taxi drivers and takeaways are struggling is down to them. For fear of being accused of being racist i will let another poster state the obvious connection. Just for the record i use to spend most weekends down Blackburn after Rovers had been at home not anymore its not the town i grew up knowing.
How ironic there is a connection here.The reason taxi drivers and takeaways are struggling is down to them. For fear of being accused of being racist i will let another poster state the obvious connection. Just for the record i use to spend most weekends down Blackburn after Rovers had been at home not anymore its not the town i grew up knowing. ghost of sceptic

6:55pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Malthus says...

This is the economics of supply and demand. It is also the reason that we no longer have mining, manufacturing and steel industries. The only way that the Government ever supports British business is if you are a farmer or a banker.
This is the economics of supply and demand. It is also the reason that we no longer have mining, manufacturing and steel industries. The only way that the Government ever supports British business is if you are a farmer or a banker. Malthus

7:36pm Mon 10 Feb 14

denidenideni says...

Support Darwen town centre pubs and restaurants, good night out, live music and decent people.
Support Darwen town centre pubs and restaurants, good night out, live music and decent people. denidenideni

7:45pm Mon 10 Feb 14

juanbbien says...

I think a lot of the problems are due to a social change in the sixties when the Cavendish and Starlight Clubs were in operation they catered for a different generation were Caberet with top stars together with a Disco room was the order of the day and there was a certain dress code,blimey even my mum and dad used to enjoy going to watch the acts,this all finished went out of date whatever and was replaced with the rave nights cheap booze people lying in the gutters falling about drunk,assualts some resulting in deaths,and you know what decent people no longer want to venture into the town,I'm afraid to think that it's an irreversible situation gone forever
I think a lot of the problems are due to a social change in the sixties when the Cavendish and Starlight Clubs were in operation they catered for a different generation were Caberet with top stars together with a Disco room was the order of the day and there was a certain dress code,blimey even my mum and dad used to enjoy going to watch the acts,this all finished went out of date whatever and was replaced with the rave nights cheap booze people lying in the gutters falling about drunk,assualts some resulting in deaths,and you know what decent people no longer want to venture into the town,I'm afraid to think that it's an irreversible situation gone forever juanbbien

7:49pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Noiticer says...

Can't think of a decent place I would like my children to go to in Blackburn these days. Remember The Cavendish Club and Mecca where great places to spend saturday nights - alas long gone
Can't think of a decent place I would like my children to go to in Blackburn these days. Remember The Cavendish Club and Mecca where great places to spend saturday nights - alas long gone Noiticer

8:52pm Mon 10 Feb 14

P7CKP1943 says...

Has anyone thought it may be relevant that we might just have to many taxi firms in the borough ,we seem to have been giving out the liecenses like confetti .Just think of all the council jobs that have been lost not forgetting jobs lost in industry Yet the taxi companies don,t seem to have grasped the basic fact that people may not be able to afford the fares or to go out.Suggest in order to balance the books the taxi firms get together and discuss the fact that some of their employees may have to be temp lade off things may get better after the next election.In the short term the council should put a block on all new applications.Just a few years ago Blackburn use to be well known throughout Lancashire as the inn place to go look at the town centre today its in a mess I would start by asking the younger elements what they wont .
Has anyone thought it may be relevant that we might just have to many taxi firms in the borough ,we seem to have been giving out the liecenses like confetti .Just think of all the council jobs that have been lost not forgetting jobs lost in industry Yet the taxi companies don,t seem to have grasped the basic fact that people may not be able to afford the fares or to go out.Suggest in order to balance the books the taxi firms get together and discuss the fact that some of their employees may have to be temp lade off things may get better after the next election.In the short term the council should put a block on all new applications.Just a few years ago Blackburn use to be well known throughout Lancashire as the inn place to go look at the town centre today its in a mess I would start by asking the younger elements what they wont . P7CKP1943

9:01pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Jack Herer says...

juanbbien wrote:
I think a lot of the problems are due to a social change in the sixties when the Cavendish and Starlight Clubs were in operation they catered for a different generation were Caberet with top stars together with a Disco room was the order of the day and there was a certain dress code,blimey even my mum and dad used to enjoy going to watch the acts,this all finished went out of date whatever and was replaced with the rave nights cheap booze people lying in the gutters falling about drunk,assualts some resulting in deaths,and you know what decent people no longer want to venture into the town,I'm afraid to think that it's an irreversible situation gone forever
Jeez, these pages are becoming a pensioners' love in these days.

Rave nights are nothing to do with cheap booze, or assaults and such like. Quite the opposite in fact.

In nightlife terms, Blackburn's glory years - the time in its history when it was the envied epitome of cool, when the whole north turned up to party, when famous club's opened night's here - was undoubtedly in the "rave" era of the famous warehouse parties. Those events, and the surrounding knock on scene, weren't agro though; they were probably the most harmonious the whole youth of Blackburn have ever been.

The town centre was booming at the same time too.

I agree with you about the crazy binge drinking culture - it doesn't look a whole lot of fun.

The truth is that none of those things have killed the nightlife though. Other towns are havens for it and they thrive - it seems to be the norm now. Blackburn itself was still doing well with that culture came in the late 90s.

I agree with another poster. I personally think this could be a result of our multi-cultural environment here. The whole thing doesn't go together too well for a variety of reason. This culture change is a social experiment at the end of the day. No-one knows the results of this type of thing. You'd be a liar or a fool to say it's going swimmingly though. But I'd guess you'd already know that.
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I think a lot of the problems are due to a social change in the sixties when the Cavendish and Starlight Clubs were in operation they catered for a different generation were Caberet with top stars together with a Disco room was the order of the day and there was a certain dress code,blimey even my mum and dad used to enjoy going to watch the acts,this all finished went out of date whatever and was replaced with the rave nights cheap booze people lying in the gutters falling about drunk,assualts some resulting in deaths,and you know what decent people no longer want to venture into the town,I'm afraid to think that it's an irreversible situation gone forever[/p][/quote]Jeez, these pages are becoming a pensioners' love in these days. Rave nights are nothing to do with cheap booze, or assaults and such like. Quite the opposite in fact. In nightlife terms, Blackburn's glory years - the time in its history when it was the envied epitome of cool, when the whole north turned up to party, when famous club's opened night's here - was undoubtedly in the "rave" era of the famous warehouse parties. Those events, and the surrounding knock on scene, weren't agro though; they were probably the most harmonious the whole youth of Blackburn have ever been. The town centre was booming at the same time too. I agree with you about the crazy binge drinking culture - it doesn't look a whole lot of fun. The truth is that none of those things have killed the nightlife though. Other towns are havens for it and they thrive - it seems to be the norm now. Blackburn itself was still doing well with that culture came in the late 90s. I agree with another poster. I personally think this could be a result of our multi-cultural environment here. The whole thing doesn't go together too well for a variety of reason. This culture change is a social experiment at the end of the day. No-one knows the results of this type of thing. You'd be a liar or a fool to say it's going swimmingly though. But I'd guess you'd already know that. Jack Herer

10:18pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Norman T Wangler says...

these are just facts so dont band me with the 'R' word.

the majority asian run council of blackburn dont put money into the night life because its of no use to asians.

however.. now the lack of night life affects mainly asian taxi drivers (many of whom fiddle the tax laws by basically not paying much if any) they decide to revive the night life.

hardly community spirited is it? well... it is... as long as u r asian.

our council should be even handed and im afraid its not. one community divided by race/religion. how very depressing. why cant we all just treat each other the same?
these are just facts so dont band me with the 'R' word. the majority asian run council of blackburn dont put money into the night life because its of no use to asians. however.. now the lack of night life affects mainly asian taxi drivers (many of whom fiddle the tax laws by basically not paying much if any) they decide to revive the night life. hardly community spirited is it? well... it is... as long as u r asian. our council should be even handed and im afraid its not. one community divided by race/religion. how very depressing. why cant we all just treat each other the same? Norman T Wangler

11:58pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Reality50 says...

There are many reasons why Blackburn is dead. The smoking ban and high prices killed the pub trade. Blackburn's diminishing white population means less demand for pubs and clubs. Young people no longer see the pub as the main place for socialising. The increasing Asian/Muslim population largely don't drink so again supply and demand kicks in.Also one that hasn't been touched on is the likes of the EDL for the past few years have flooded social media sites trying to persuade people not to use Muslim businesses largely over the child grooming issues linked to takeaways and shisha bars. I know a couple of years ago,the EDL before an anti KFC halal demo were urging EDL supporters to use Mill Hill taxis as they at the time had no Muslim drivers. I know in towns such as Rochdale and Aylesbury,the boycott of Muslim businesses has been successful.As for nightlife,the days of Peppermint Place et al with thousands of pub and club goers have gone. They won't be coming back and as the population demographics continue to change in Blackburn,within a decade you will probably see another 100 pubs and clubs disappear in the borough. Who do we blame? Government,pub industry,council in that order in my view.
There are many reasons why Blackburn is dead. The smoking ban and high prices killed the pub trade. Blackburn's diminishing white population means less demand for pubs and clubs. Young people no longer see the pub as the main place for socialising. The increasing Asian/Muslim population largely don't drink so again supply and demand kicks in.Also one that hasn't been touched on is the likes of the EDL for the past few years have flooded social media sites trying to persuade people not to use Muslim businesses largely over the child grooming issues linked to takeaways and shisha bars. I know a couple of years ago,the EDL before an anti KFC halal demo were urging EDL supporters to use Mill Hill taxis as they at the time had no Muslim drivers. I know in towns such as Rochdale and Aylesbury,the boycott of Muslim businesses has been successful.As for nightlife,the days of Peppermint Place et al with thousands of pub and club goers have gone. They won't be coming back and as the population demographics continue to change in Blackburn,within a decade you will probably see another 100 pubs and clubs disappear in the borough. Who do we blame? Government,pub industry,council in that order in my view. Reality50

12:06am Tue 11 Feb 14

Reality50 says...

Blackburn isn't unique in suffering a nightime decline. Bolton downsized its pub/club area to a smaller section of Bradshawgate. It looks busy but compared to the 80's and 90's it isn't,it's just that the area of pubs is smaller. Same in Wigan where everything is centred on King St and the rest of the town is dead.Preston is hardly booming and the days of Tokyo Joes and the Manxman have long gone.Burnley isn't thriving either. Only Manchester and Liverpool and to a degree Blackpool aren't struggling in the North West,the first two as they are big cities and Blackpool for obvious reasons.
Blackburn isn't unique in suffering a nightime decline. Bolton downsized its pub/club area to a smaller section of Bradshawgate. It looks busy but compared to the 80's and 90's it isn't,it's just that the area of pubs is smaller. Same in Wigan where everything is centred on King St and the rest of the town is dead.Preston is hardly booming and the days of Tokyo Joes and the Manxman have long gone.Burnley isn't thriving either. Only Manchester and Liverpool and to a degree Blackpool aren't struggling in the North West,the first two as they are big cities and Blackpool for obvious reasons. Reality50

7:02am Tue 11 Feb 14

Abbey Decor says...

Let's change everything for the taxi drivers. Take the town back to the 70's 80's and early 90's. What a joke you councilors are. Let's forget about the publicans, market traders and peoples safety but hey taxi drivers yes. I wonder why? This town is a hell hole now with the devil in control. It's affluence has turned into effluence. Even a blind man see the change. You can smell it. A blackburner born and bred and sad. Very sad indeed. The towns underground economies non heritage believing residents have played a huge part in its decline and a certain MP named Jack.
Let's change everything for the taxi drivers. Take the town back to the 70's 80's and early 90's. What a joke you councilors are. Let's forget about the publicans, market traders and peoples safety but hey taxi drivers yes. I wonder why? This town is a hell hole now with the devil in control. It's affluence has turned into effluence. Even a blind man see the change. You can smell it. A blackburner born and bred and sad. Very sad indeed. The towns underground economies non heritage believing residents have played a huge part in its decline and a certain MP named Jack. Abbey Decor

8:05am Tue 11 Feb 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Couldn't the taxi drivers be encouraging their own sons, daughters, friends, family and community to go down to frequent the bars and clubs instead of crying to the council for them to splash tax-payers' cash?

Blackburn as a nightspot is dead. Why would snybody with the means to go elsewhere want to risk a ride in a barely legal vehicle at exortionate cost to sit in a miserable souless bar pumping out mass-produced pop-pap drinking overpriced ale with the only atmosphere being an undercurrent of violence from popped-up chavs and vodka-addled eastern Europeans.
Couldn't the taxi drivers be encouraging their own sons, daughters, friends, family and community to go down to frequent the bars and clubs instead of crying to the council for them to splash tax-payers' cash? Blackburn as a nightspot is dead. Why would snybody with the means to go elsewhere want to risk a ride in a barely legal vehicle at exortionate cost to sit in a miserable souless bar pumping out mass-produced pop-pap drinking overpriced ale with the only atmosphere being an undercurrent of violence from popped-up chavs and vodka-addled eastern Europeans. OnePostThenTheOther

9:13am Tue 11 Feb 14

Commenting says...

It is ironic that Asian (Muslim) councillors and taxi drivers are commenting on the loos of business primarily as a result of the closures of pubs and the lack of night life in general.
It is partly as a result of Muslim religious groups obtaining change of use of many public houses to places of worship, the increased number of Muslims in neighbourhoods and the consequent loss of trade for local pubs and the complete culture change of the town.
There are Asian restaurants who don't cater for that section of the community who enjoy an alcoholic drink with their meals so people eat out elsewhere.
It is hypocritical of prominent Muslims complaining of loss of business opportunities when it is precisely their culture that has caused this.
It is ironic that Asian (Muslim) councillors and taxi drivers are commenting on the loos of business primarily as a result of the closures of pubs and the lack of night life in general. It is partly as a result of Muslim religious groups obtaining change of use of many public houses to places of worship, the increased number of Muslims in neighbourhoods and the consequent loss of trade for local pubs and the complete culture change of the town. There are Asian restaurants who don't cater for that section of the community who enjoy an alcoholic drink with their meals so people eat out elsewhere. It is hypocritical of prominent Muslims complaining of loss of business opportunities when it is precisely their culture that has caused this. Commenting

9:27am Tue 11 Feb 14

hunter3062 says...

no trade equals too many taxis.pubs,and clubs decent places to eat are shutting down each and every day while taxis and takeaways are increasing each day..we dont want more crap food and taxis.no wage increases rising cost of living equals no going out on the tiles and giving our hard earned cash or benefits to our asian brothers..accept the countrys fooked my asian friends you have seen to that along with all the other migrants clogging up the welfare system and abusing the nhs.
no trade equals too many taxis.pubs,and clubs decent places to eat are shutting down each and every day while taxis and takeaways are increasing each day..we dont want more crap food and taxis.no wage increases rising cost of living equals no going out on the tiles and giving our hard earned cash or benefits to our asian brothers..accept the countrys fooked my asian friends you have seen to that along with all the other migrants clogging up the welfare system and abusing the nhs. hunter3062

10:02am Tue 11 Feb 14

Have Yr Say says...

Norman T Wangler wrote:
these are just facts so dont band me with the 'R' word.

the majority asian run council of blackburn dont put money into the night life because its of no use to asians.

however.. now the lack of night life affects mainly asian taxi drivers (many of whom fiddle the tax laws by basically not paying much if any) they decide to revive the night life.

hardly community spirited is it? well... it is... as long as u r asian.

our council should be even handed and im afraid its not. one community divided by race/religion. how very depressing. why cant we all just treat each other the same?
Couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]Norman T Wangler[/bold] wrote: these are just facts so dont band me with the 'R' word. the majority asian run council of blackburn dont put money into the night life because its of no use to asians. however.. now the lack of night life affects mainly asian taxi drivers (many of whom fiddle the tax laws by basically not paying much if any) they decide to revive the night life. hardly community spirited is it? well... it is... as long as u r asian. our council should be even handed and im afraid its not. one community divided by race/religion. how very depressing. why cant we all just treat each other the same?[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Have Yr Say

10:03am Tue 11 Feb 14

Have Yr Say says...

Norman T Wangler wrote:
these are just facts so dont band me with the 'R' word.

the majority asian run council of blackburn dont put money into the night life because its of no use to asians.

however.. now the lack of night life affects mainly asian taxi drivers (many of whom fiddle the tax laws by basically not paying much if any) they decide to revive the night life.

hardly community spirited is it? well... it is... as long as u r asian.

our council should be even handed and im afraid its not. one community divided by race/religion. how very depressing. why cant we all just treat each other the same?
Couldn't agree more, well put.
[quote][p][bold]Norman T Wangler[/bold] wrote: these are just facts so dont band me with the 'R' word. the majority asian run council of blackburn dont put money into the night life because its of no use to asians. however.. now the lack of night life affects mainly asian taxi drivers (many of whom fiddle the tax laws by basically not paying much if any) they decide to revive the night life. hardly community spirited is it? well... it is... as long as u r asian. our council should be even handed and im afraid its not. one community divided by race/religion. how very depressing. why cant we all just treat each other the same?[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, well put. Have Yr Say

10:32am Tue 11 Feb 14

Blackburn99 says...

JACK STRAW started this - sort it out.....

Why because of said TAXI drivers that now feel the pain that I am sure they had initial cause to start this decline in asking for establishments to close should we no wback them.....

We want a town to be proud of irrespective of pubs and clubs - sort it out NOW as it will probably be another 10 years+ before we see any change...
JACK STRAW started this - sort it out..... Why because of said TAXI drivers that now feel the pain that I am sure they had initial cause to start this decline in asking for establishments to close should we no wback them..... We want a town to be proud of irrespective of pubs and clubs - sort it out NOW as it will probably be another 10 years+ before we see any change... Blackburn99

10:48am Tue 11 Feb 14

larky says...

I have lived in Blackburn all my life, It no longer feels like my town.
How many people feel frustrated living here, i do, every house that is sold will have a to let sign up within weeks.
The majority of areas look scruffy with rubbish all over the floor.
This town is dead, and deep down we all know why.
I have lived in Blackburn all my life, It no longer feels like my town. How many people feel frustrated living here, i do, every house that is sold will have a to let sign up within weeks. The majority of areas look scruffy with rubbish all over the floor. This town is dead, and deep down we all know why. larky

11:21am Tue 11 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

larky wrote:
I have lived in Blackburn all my life, It no longer feels like my town.
How many people feel frustrated living here, i do, every house that is sold will have a to let sign up within weeks.
The majority of areas look scruffy with rubbish all over the floor.
This town is dead, and deep down we all know why.
Hi Larky
I have been saying this for two years now, luckily I managed to get out, it's still pulls the heart strings to see your own town of sixty plus years going consistently downhill, still local posters Saj and Modan think every thing is great in Blackburn, funny how they have gone quiet recently!
PS get ready be branded with the "R" word when stating what ever body else can see is quite obvious, this is part of the problem.
[quote][p][bold]larky[/bold] wrote: I have lived in Blackburn all my life, It no longer feels like my town. How many people feel frustrated living here, i do, every house that is sold will have a to let sign up within weeks. The majority of areas look scruffy with rubbish all over the floor. This town is dead, and deep down we all know why.[/p][/quote]Hi Larky I have been saying this for two years now, luckily I managed to get out, it's still pulls the heart strings to see your own town of sixty plus years going consistently downhill, still local posters Saj and Modan think every thing is great in Blackburn, funny how they have gone quiet recently! PS get ready be branded with the "R" word when stating what ever body else can see is quite obvious, this is part of the problem. Lancs - pensioner

11:34am Tue 11 Feb 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.
Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night. OnePostThenTheOther

11:43am Tue 11 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.
Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.[/p][/quote]Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren? Darren1951

12:00pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Richard Pembrook says...

This is ironic as the muslim population of Blackburn are now struggling because of the fact we have so many muslims in Blackburn! They don't drink so all the pubs and clubs are closed and they don't use taxis, love it. Only problem is they are now moving into Darwen were all the decent people live & ruining our town to. Darwen council do nothing about all the pakistani taxi drivers parking on double yellow lines outside the taxi rank in the town centre.
This is ironic as the muslim population of Blackburn are now struggling because of the fact we have so many muslims in Blackburn! They don't drink so all the pubs and clubs are closed and they don't use taxis, love it. Only problem is they are now moving into Darwen were all the decent people live & ruining our town to. Darwen council do nothing about all the pakistani taxi drivers parking on double yellow lines outside the taxi rank in the town centre. Richard Pembrook

12:05pm Tue 11 Feb 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Darren1951 wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.
Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?
"From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this."

I have used "school night" as a euphemism for a mid-week night i.e. not Friday or Saturday night.

I agree, this article hasn't got anything to do with schoolchildren, so hopefully the above clarification has dispelled your confusion.
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.[/p][/quote]Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?[/p][/quote]"From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this." I have used "school night" as a euphemism for a mid-week night i.e. not Friday or Saturday night. I agree, this article hasn't got anything to do with schoolchildren, so hopefully the above clarification has dispelled your confusion. OnePostThenTheOther

1:37pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Copperhead says...

You've got to admire the sheer brass neck of the two Asians in the photo.
For a culture that bans drinking and gambling - muslims, I mean, because it's a way of life for it's followers, not just a religion - they've got a bloody nerve complaining about a lack of nightlife !!!!!!
Nightlife in the " decadent " West has always involved drinking and, to a lesser extent, gambling. The huge influx of muslims into Blackburn - maybe 25000 of them - has caused " white flight ". The working-class residents of so many areas have done a runner, not wanting to live cheek-by-jowl with an alien culture. And, of course, the muslims don't want to integrate with the " kuffirs " any more than we want to integrate with them.
Sad, but true, and a damning indictment of ZaNuLabour's attempts at social engineering by encouraging so much immigration.
Of course, the decline in our traditional economies - caused by politicians who wanted to destroy union, and hence worker's power - and the current recession ( which will last until at least 2025 I reckon ) have made things worse.
Add in Britain's draconian drink-drive and anti-smoking laws and you have the perfect storm to destroy our traditional way of socialising of an evening.
In about 50yrs, we'll all come back from the mosque after Friday prayers and open a bottle or two of illicit moonshine, so all's not lost.
You've got to admire the sheer brass neck of the two Asians in the photo. For a culture that bans drinking and gambling - muslims, I mean, because it's a way of life for it's followers, not just a religion - they've got a bloody nerve complaining about a lack of nightlife !!!!!! Nightlife in the " decadent " West has always involved drinking and, to a lesser extent, gambling. The huge influx of muslims into Blackburn - maybe 25000 of them - has caused " white flight ". The working-class residents of so many areas have done a runner, not wanting to live cheek-by-jowl with an alien culture. And, of course, the muslims don't want to integrate with the " kuffirs " any more than we want to integrate with them. Sad, but true, and a damning indictment of ZaNuLabour's attempts at social engineering by encouraging so much immigration. Of course, the decline in our traditional economies - caused by politicians who wanted to destroy union, and hence worker's power - and the current recession ( which will last until at least 2025 I reckon ) have made things worse. Add in Britain's draconian drink-drive and anti-smoking laws and you have the perfect storm to destroy our traditional way of socialising of an evening. In about 50yrs, we'll all come back from the mosque after Friday prayers and open a bottle or two of illicit moonshine, so all's not lost. Copperhead

2:30pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Rishtonian says...

juanbbien wrote:
I think a lot of the problems are due to a social change in the sixties when the Cavendish and Starlight Clubs were in operation they catered for a different generation were Caberet with top stars together with a Disco room was the order of the day and there was a certain dress code,blimey even my mum and dad used to enjoy going to watch the acts,this all finished went out of date whatever and was replaced with the rave nights cheap booze people lying in the gutters falling about drunk,assualts some resulting in deaths,and you know what decent people no longer want to venture into the town,I'm afraid to think that it's an irreversible situation gone forever
You said it as it is pal
You would not get me in the town centre on a Sat night
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I think a lot of the problems are due to a social change in the sixties when the Cavendish and Starlight Clubs were in operation they catered for a different generation were Caberet with top stars together with a Disco room was the order of the day and there was a certain dress code,blimey even my mum and dad used to enjoy going to watch the acts,this all finished went out of date whatever and was replaced with the rave nights cheap booze people lying in the gutters falling about drunk,assualts some resulting in deaths,and you know what decent people no longer want to venture into the town,I'm afraid to think that it's an irreversible situation gone forever[/p][/quote]You said it as it is pal You would not get me in the town centre on a Sat night Rishtonian

2:32pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.
Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?
"From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this."

I have used "school night" as a euphemism for a mid-week night i.e. not Friday or Saturday night.

I agree, this article hasn't got anything to do with schoolchildren, so hopefully the above clarification has dispelled your confusion.
Fair enough, but your use of the term also suggests that you're referring to people under the age of 18, as opposed to college students over that age.
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.[/p][/quote]Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?[/p][/quote]"From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this." I have used "school night" as a euphemism for a mid-week night i.e. not Friday or Saturday night. I agree, this article hasn't got anything to do with schoolchildren, so hopefully the above clarification has dispelled your confusion.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, but your use of the term also suggests that you're referring to people under the age of 18, as opposed to college students over that age. Darren1951

2:48pm Tue 11 Feb 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Darren1951 wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.
Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?
"From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this."

I have used "school night" as a euphemism for a mid-week night i.e. not Friday or Saturday night.

I agree, this article hasn't got anything to do with schoolchildren, so hopefully the above clarification has dispelled your confusion.
Fair enough, but your use of the term also suggests that you're referring to people under the age of 18, as opposed to college students over that age.
On a point of detail, the 'Tech' does operate a sixth-form college so these youngsters are underage from point of view of acohol consumption and might still be considered as school-children.

That aside, and reiterating my first point, I would expect most parents would rather their children (and I am including those students over 18) left their blowouts until the w/e and not risk missing classes/lectures on Friday or otherwise having a non-productive day.
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Not sure I'd be happy if it was my children that the council was trying to entice out on a school night.[/p][/quote]Ermm, what has this article got to do with schoolchildren?[/p][/quote]"From the beginning of March pubs are going to be encouraging students to come into town on a Thursday night. We’re working with the college on this." I have used "school night" as a euphemism for a mid-week night i.e. not Friday or Saturday night. I agree, this article hasn't got anything to do with schoolchildren, so hopefully the above clarification has dispelled your confusion.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, but your use of the term also suggests that you're referring to people under the age of 18, as opposed to college students over that age.[/p][/quote]On a point of detail, the 'Tech' does operate a sixth-form college so these youngsters are underage from point of view of acohol consumption and might still be considered as school-children. That aside, and reiterating my first point, I would expect most parents would rather their children (and I am including those students over 18) left their blowouts until the w/e and not risk missing classes/lectures on Friday or otherwise having a non-productive day. OnePostThenTheOther

3:14pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

"That aside, and reiterating my first point, I would expect most parents would rather their children (and I am including those students over 18) left their blowouts until the w/e and not risk missing classes/lectures on Friday or otherwise having a non-productive day."
Sounds to me like you're saying that under-age drinking's OK, but preferably only at weekends?
"That aside, and reiterating my first point, I would expect most parents would rather their children (and I am including those students over 18) left their blowouts until the w/e and not risk missing classes/lectures on Friday or otherwise having a non-productive day." Sounds to me like you're saying that under-age drinking's OK, but preferably only at weekends? Darren1951

3:28pm Tue 11 Feb 14

SBH87 says...

even as a muslim the hypocrisy here in this article annoys me. we are forbidden to drink and avoid anything to do with "nightlife" and here these two numpties stand complaining about it.

I am not gonna brand anyone here thats commented with the 'R' word. Truth is the asian community has grown in Blackburn and therefore the demand for pubs and bars have decreased (unless its a sheesha bar), that isnt offensive, thats just a fact.

too old to change profession? thats actually laughable.
even as a muslim the hypocrisy here in this article annoys me. we are forbidden to drink and avoid anything to do with "nightlife" and here these two numpties stand complaining about it. I am not gonna brand anyone here thats commented with the 'R' word. Truth is the asian community has grown in Blackburn and therefore the demand for pubs and bars have decreased (unless its a sheesha bar), that isnt offensive, thats just a fact. too old to change profession? thats actually laughable. SBH87

3:32pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Richard Pembrook says...

Copperhead wrote:
You've got to admire the sheer brass neck of the two Asians in the photo.
For a culture that bans drinking and gambling - muslims, I mean, because it's a way of life for it's followers, not just a religion - they've got a bloody nerve complaining about a lack of nightlife !!!!!!
Nightlife in the " decadent " West has always involved drinking and, to a lesser extent, gambling. The huge influx of muslims into Blackburn - maybe 25000 of them - has caused " white flight ". The working-class residents of so many areas have done a runner, not wanting to live cheek-by-jowl with an alien culture. And, of course, the muslims don't want to integrate with the " kuffirs " any more than we want to integrate with them.
Sad, but true, and a damning indictment of ZaNuLabour's attempts at social engineering by encouraging so much immigration.
Of course, the decline in our traditional economies - caused by politicians who wanted to destroy union, and hence worker's power - and the current recession ( which will last until at least 2025 I reckon ) have made things worse.
Add in Britain's draconian drink-drive and anti-smoking laws and you have the perfect storm to destroy our traditional way of socialising of an evening.
In about 50yrs, we'll all come back from the mosque after Friday prayers and open a bottle or two of illicit moonshine, so all's not lost.
Well said and very true, come the revolution. . . .
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: You've got to admire the sheer brass neck of the two Asians in the photo. For a culture that bans drinking and gambling - muslims, I mean, because it's a way of life for it's followers, not just a religion - they've got a bloody nerve complaining about a lack of nightlife !!!!!! Nightlife in the " decadent " West has always involved drinking and, to a lesser extent, gambling. The huge influx of muslims into Blackburn - maybe 25000 of them - has caused " white flight ". The working-class residents of so many areas have done a runner, not wanting to live cheek-by-jowl with an alien culture. And, of course, the muslims don't want to integrate with the " kuffirs " any more than we want to integrate with them. Sad, but true, and a damning indictment of ZaNuLabour's attempts at social engineering by encouraging so much immigration. Of course, the decline in our traditional economies - caused by politicians who wanted to destroy union, and hence worker's power - and the current recession ( which will last until at least 2025 I reckon ) have made things worse. Add in Britain's draconian drink-drive and anti-smoking laws and you have the perfect storm to destroy our traditional way of socialising of an evening. In about 50yrs, we'll all come back from the mosque after Friday prayers and open a bottle or two of illicit moonshine, so all's not lost.[/p][/quote]Well said and very true, come the revolution. . . . Richard Pembrook

3:54pm Tue 11 Feb 14

look.up.blackburn says...

I believe the government should do the decent thing here and fund the building of a 50 foot wall around this cesspit of a town.... and then fill it with water.
I believe the government should do the decent thing here and fund the building of a 50 foot wall around this cesspit of a town.... and then fill it with water. look.up.blackburn

5:12pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

SBH87 wrote:
even as a muslim the hypocrisy here in this article annoys me. we are forbidden to drink and avoid anything to do with "nightlife" and here these two numpties stand complaining about it.

I am not gonna brand anyone here thats commented with the 'R' word. Truth is the asian community has grown in Blackburn and therefore the demand for pubs and bars have decreased (unless its a sheesha bar), that isnt offensive, thats just a fact.

too old to change profession? thats actually laughable.
Blackburn does have a chance if people like you keep talking plain simple common sense, we all know Blackburn is mainly becoming an Asian town I have no problem with that, my gripe has always been your fellow country men find it hard to mix, this has caused resentment amongst the locals that had been there for years, wether this ever changes I don't know but if it does it would certainly help IMO.
[quote][p][bold]SBH87[/bold] wrote: even as a muslim the hypocrisy here in this article annoys me. we are forbidden to drink and avoid anything to do with "nightlife" and here these two numpties stand complaining about it. I am not gonna brand anyone here thats commented with the 'R' word. Truth is the asian community has grown in Blackburn and therefore the demand for pubs and bars have decreased (unless its a sheesha bar), that isnt offensive, thats just a fact. too old to change profession? thats actually laughable.[/p][/quote]Blackburn does have a chance if people like you keep talking plain simple common sense, we all know Blackburn is mainly becoming an Asian town I have no problem with that, my gripe has always been your fellow country men find it hard to mix, this has caused resentment amongst the locals that had been there for years, wether this ever changes I don't know but if it does it would certainly help IMO. Lancs - pensioner

6:35pm Tue 11 Feb 14

kettle72 says...

Maybe Councillor Hussain could work with town centre bars and pubs and give out BOGOF drinks vouchers after Friday prayers. Problem solved.
Maybe Councillor Hussain could work with town centre bars and pubs and give out BOGOF drinks vouchers after Friday prayers. Problem solved. kettle72

6:41pm Tue 11 Feb 14

roversok says...

I was in Birmingham last week as a 53 yr old out till 5am the area was alive and packed all the pubs, bars, restaurants packed solid like new years eve in most North west towns.
Difference was the vast majority of people were of western culture.
Why do taxi drivers not cue up outside mosques for a fair, that's right they will not pay for a taxi them self s yet expect us to pay their ludicrous prices to get in a car that should be in a scrap yard.
I was in Birmingham last week as a 53 yr old out till 5am the area was alive and packed all the pubs, bars, restaurants packed solid like new years eve in most North west towns. Difference was the vast majority of people were of western culture. Why do taxi drivers not cue up outside mosques for a fair, that's right they will not pay for a taxi them self s yet expect us to pay their ludicrous prices to get in a car that should be in a scrap yard. roversok

6:51pm Tue 11 Feb 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"That aside, and reiterating my first point, I would expect most parents would rather their children (and I am including those students over 18) left their blowouts until the w/e and not risk missing classes/lectures on Friday or otherwise having a non-productive day."
Sounds to me like you're saying that under-age drinking's OK, but preferably only at weekends?
no it doesn't
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "That aside, and reiterating my first point, I would expect most parents would rather their children (and I am including those students over 18) left their blowouts until the w/e and not risk missing classes/lectures on Friday or otherwise having a non-productive day." Sounds to me like you're saying that under-age drinking's OK, but preferably only at weekends?[/p][/quote]no it doesn't OnePostThenTheOther

7:54pm Tue 11 Feb 14

doomchanter says...

You can not make people go out unless they want to.
Blackburn used to be a great night out, it isnt any more, no point crying about it.
My kids head over to Burnley for a night out.
I dont think that a town centre full of drunks and people high on drugs really adds much to the the local economy anyway once you take into account the policing and clean up involved. ( the dealers, kebab shop owners and licence holders do alright though )
My suggestion to the taxi drivers is get another job, just like everyone else has to when demand falls.
You can not make people go out unless they want to. Blackburn used to be a great night out, it isnt any more, no point crying about it. My kids head over to Burnley for a night out. I dont think that a town centre full of drunks and people high on drugs really adds much to the the local economy anyway once you take into account the policing and clean up involved. ( the dealers, kebab shop owners and licence holders do alright though ) My suggestion to the taxi drivers is get another job, just like everyone else has to when demand falls. doomchanter

8:49pm Tue 11 Feb 14

idysalim says...

loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism
loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism idysalim

9:00pm Tue 11 Feb 14

255.255.255.0 says...

Laughable to blame asians and muslims for your failure to populate your own pubs bars and clubs. what a joke. The world has moved on, Other towns have. blackburn aint what it used to be. in these hard times its taken its toll. empty town shops...blame the muslims, empty bars and clubs...blame the muslims... anything bad happens...blame the muslims but dont blame your own selves for bringing your own town down. What have you done? run away and leach off the gov? Some of the most successful and most innovative businesses in the UK are blackburn owned, muslim and asian owned that employ hundreds of people of all backgrounds. Problem is you just cant face the truth but want blame others.
Laughable to blame asians and muslims for your failure to populate your own pubs bars and clubs. what a joke. The world has moved on, Other towns have. blackburn aint what it used to be. in these hard times its taken its toll. empty town shops...blame the muslims, empty bars and clubs...blame the muslims... anything bad happens...blame the muslims but dont blame your own selves for bringing your own town down. What have you done? run away and leach off the gov? Some of the most successful and most innovative businesses in the UK are blackburn owned, muslim and asian owned that employ hundreds of people of all backgrounds. Problem is you just cant face the truth but want blame others. 255.255.255.0

9:53pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Richard Pembrook says...

Reality50 wrote:
It is easy to blame Asians for the decline of Blackburn-and Rochdale,Nelson,Oldh

am,Bradford-etc but the real villians are the Labour Party and Tories who invited them here and who rely on the Muslim block vote to stay in power. The disgraceful disgusting pro immigration trade unions are as bad too. The immigrants were invited here by the politicians and you can't blame them for taking advantage. The politicians-Labour,C

onservative and Lib Dem- of the last 30 years have a lot to answer for both locally and nationally.They have created divided towns-no different to Northern Ireland except it isn't as sectarian here-and it will only get worse as Muslims outbreed the rest of us to become a majority. I have said for years that once the area becomes majority Muslim-probably 2040 ish=h-then sharia law will be the main law. It is called democracy and we-the natives- will lose.
2040? You've not been to Blackburn for a while then? It's over 70% a muslim state now. They have almost if not all the council seats and most of the areas in Blackburn. It makes me sick to see what’s happened to the town I grew up in, it's unrecognisable from when I was a teenager.
The problem is too many liberal minded white people letting them get away with it. They say they don't mind muslims but don't want to live near them or have a child who's the only white face in a school. Something needs to be done before it's too late, if it's not already!
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: It is easy to blame Asians for the decline of Blackburn-and Rochdale,Nelson,Oldh am,Bradford-etc but the real villians are the Labour Party and Tories who invited them here and who rely on the Muslim block vote to stay in power. The disgraceful disgusting pro immigration trade unions are as bad too. The immigrants were invited here by the politicians and you can't blame them for taking advantage. The politicians-Labour,C onservative and Lib Dem- of the last 30 years have a lot to answer for both locally and nationally.They have created divided towns-no different to Northern Ireland except it isn't as sectarian here-and it will only get worse as Muslims outbreed the rest of us to become a majority. I have said for years that once the area becomes majority Muslim-probably 2040 ish=h-then sharia law will be the main law. It is called democracy and we-the natives- will lose.[/p][/quote]2040? You've not been to Blackburn for a while then? It's over 70% a muslim state now. They have almost if not all the council seats and most of the areas in Blackburn. It makes me sick to see what’s happened to the town I grew up in, it's unrecognisable from when I was a teenager. The problem is too many liberal minded white people letting them get away with it. They say they don't mind muslims but don't want to live near them or have a child who's the only white face in a school. Something needs to be done before it's too late, if it's not already! Richard Pembrook

10:09pm Tue 11 Feb 14

mmcampbell says...

kettle72 wrote:
Maybe Councillor Hussain could work with town centre bars and pubs and give out BOGOF drinks vouchers after Friday prayers. Problem solved.
Councilor hussain should organise an all-nighter at the local mosque.
Problem solved.
[quote][p][bold]kettle72[/bold] wrote: Maybe Councillor Hussain could work with town centre bars and pubs and give out BOGOF drinks vouchers after Friday prayers. Problem solved.[/p][/quote]Councilor hussain should organise an all-nighter at the local mosque. Problem solved. mmcampbell

12:15am Wed 12 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

idysalim wrote:
loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism
I thought we had moved on from pulling the race card, we need to work together if things are going to improve.
[quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism[/p][/quote]I thought we had moved on from pulling the race card, we need to work together if things are going to improve. Lancs - pensioner

12:19am Wed 12 Feb 14

idysalim says...

the race card was mentioned long before I did
the race card was mentioned long before I did idysalim

9:16am Wed 12 Feb 14

Jimbok says...

look.up.blackburn wrote:
I believe the government should do the decent thing here and fund the building of a 50 foot wall around this cesspit of a town.... and then fill it with water.
Very happy to let you have the water from Barrowford reservoir and might even provide the pipe if you ask nicely. Ha
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: I believe the government should do the decent thing here and fund the building of a 50 foot wall around this cesspit of a town.... and then fill it with water.[/p][/quote]Very happy to let you have the water from Barrowford reservoir and might even provide the pipe if you ask nicely. Ha Jimbok

9:22am Wed 12 Feb 14

Jimbok says...

Sounds rather like Nelson/Brierfield, but at least Burnley, Colne and Barrowford are still ok for a night out. Come over, you'd all be v welcome
Sounds rather like Nelson/Brierfield, but at least Burnley, Colne and Barrowford are still ok for a night out. Come over, you'd all be v welcome Jimbok

10:27am Wed 12 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

idysalim wrote:
the race card was mentioned long before I did
But you admit using it and that's not the way to go forward, we put an argument forward, you don't like it and it's easy for you, you just shout Racist, no one is right in these discussions they just have a point of view, until everyone gets round a table to understand each other's worries things will never get better imo.
[quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: the race card was mentioned long before I did[/p][/quote]But you admit using it and that's not the way to go forward, we put an argument forward, you don't like it and it's easy for you, you just shout Racist, no one is right in these discussions they just have a point of view, until everyone gets round a table to understand each other's worries things will never get better imo. Lancs - pensioner

12:53pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Economic decline, Council attitude towards Businesses - increased their rates - , number of incidents recorded by the Police specially at night time and no smoking laws killed the night life. It is not just the Taxi trade that is suffering because of this.
Economic decline, Council attitude towards Businesses - increased their rates - , number of incidents recorded by the Police specially at night time and no smoking laws killed the night life. It is not just the Taxi trade that is suffering because of this. Simon44

1:10pm Wed 12 Feb 14

idysalim says...

your argument included references to asians and their culture/religion...A
sians are marginalised in this country, I doubt you would be as forthcoming about your views if say this article was about black taxi drivers rather than asians...we have no voice or visible presence in British public life,and no that isn't due to our lack of integration its because society has accepted the status quo
your argument included references to asians and their culture/religion...A sians are marginalised in this country, I doubt you would be as forthcoming about your views if say this article was about black taxi drivers rather than asians...we have no voice or visible presence in British public life,and no that isn't due to our lack of integration its because society has accepted the status quo idysalim

2:12pm Wed 12 Feb 14

George Khan says...

Salaam putters, quite a lively debate
Well, I mean the usual roobish and antagonism
Anyway, I do agree that there is a degree of hypocrisy-
Two Muslims wanting night-life spirit revivalism
So the wheels start rolling for the taxi
Blackburn has an Asian population about thirty percent
You would think from some comments that they were the majority
Ok, most of the Asians have influence and are affluent
Is it their fault, the indigenous putters aren’t savvy?
No blody way! Anyway, Blackburn’s demise started years ago
When that fella called Thatcher, ignored every northern town and city
White flight started then and the indigenous putter could take no more
As brown faced neighbours began to arrive to make money
The Smiths and Jones longed for the days when Britain ruled the roost
They became couch potatoes and started to fall behind quickly
The immigrants were thriving, giving the economy a boost
Where whites fled, Asians bred and started to adapt to the new country
Curry houses, manufacturing, fish and chips and large scale businesses
Were all adapted and groomed, so that there would be prosperity
This led to jealousy and hatred amongst the indigenous masses
Giving rise to the likes of EDL and the shallow BNP
Stoking hatred and bringing KFC chickens into disrepute
It’s time to twin the town with Lahore or Karachi
That is the only way to end this blody dispute
Because Asians are the force driving the local economy
Salaam putters, quite a lively debate Well, I mean the usual roobish and antagonism Anyway, I do agree that there is a degree of hypocrisy- Two Muslims wanting night-life spirit revivalism So the wheels start rolling for the taxi Blackburn has an Asian population about thirty percent You would think from some comments that they were the majority Ok, most of the Asians have influence and are affluent Is it their fault, the indigenous putters aren’t savvy? No blody way! Anyway, Blackburn’s demise started years ago When that fella called Thatcher, ignored every northern town and city White flight started then and the indigenous putter could take no more As brown faced neighbours began to arrive to make money The Smiths and Jones longed for the days when Britain ruled the roost They became couch potatoes and started to fall behind quickly The immigrants were thriving, giving the economy a boost Where whites fled, Asians bred and started to adapt to the new country Curry houses, manufacturing, fish and chips and large scale businesses Were all adapted and groomed, so that there would be prosperity This led to jealousy and hatred amongst the indigenous masses Giving rise to the likes of EDL and the shallow BNP Stoking hatred and bringing KFC chickens into disrepute It’s time to twin the town with Lahore or Karachi That is the only way to end this blody dispute Because Asians are the force driving the local economy George Khan

4:06pm Wed 12 Feb 14

bigste says...

As an ex taxi driver I saw this coming years ago and now live in Spain. Best move ever but on the few times I return I find it very depressing. Get a life and move away. Leave the place to the ones that have taken over and let them deal with it.
EXPAT
As an ex taxi driver I saw this coming years ago and now live in Spain. Best move ever but on the few times I return I find it very depressing. Get a life and move away. Leave the place to the ones that have taken over and let them deal with it. EXPAT bigste

6:26pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Biscay says...

idysalim wrote:
loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism
Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture
Forced marriage
Genital mutilation
Honour Killings
First cousin marriage
Suicide bombers
Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls
Radicalisation
Religious intolerance
The veil
Electoral fraud
Dangerous taxis
Segregation of women
Clan / village politics
Homophobia
Sectarian rivalries

These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?
[quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism[/p][/quote]Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture Forced marriage Genital mutilation Honour Killings First cousin marriage Suicide bombers Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls Radicalisation Religious intolerance The veil Electoral fraud Dangerous taxis Segregation of women Clan / village politics Homophobia Sectarian rivalries These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts? Biscay

6:59pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Hi Bigste....., I am sure I know you. You also left a trail of unsecured / unpaid debts. People like you should stay quiet. Have you learnt to integrate in Spain or the Spanish not good enough?

4:06pm Wed 12 Feb 14

bigste says...
As an ex taxi driver I saw this coming years ago and now live in Spain. Best move ever but on the few times I return I find it very depressing. Get a life and move away. Leave the place to the ones that have taken over and let them deal with it.
EXPAT
Hi Bigste....., I am sure I know you. You also left a trail of unsecured / unpaid debts. People like you should stay quiet. Have you learnt to integrate in Spain or the Spanish not good enough? 4:06pm Wed 12 Feb 14 bigste says... As an ex taxi driver I saw this coming years ago and now live in Spain. Best move ever but on the few times I return I find it very depressing. Get a life and move away. Leave the place to the ones that have taken over and let them deal with it. EXPAT Simon44

7:07pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Biscay says...

Forgot to add:

Heroin importation
Crash for cash
High powered cars driven recklessly following religious events
Underage alcohol sales
Money laundering
Forgot to add: Heroin importation Crash for cash High powered cars driven recklessly following religious events Underage alcohol sales Money laundering Biscay

7:10pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Biscay says...

One more:
Disregard for the local planning process
One more: Disregard for the local planning process Biscay

7:17pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

Biscay wrote:
idysalim wrote:
loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism
Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture
Forced marriage
Genital mutilation
Honour Killings
First cousin marriage
Suicide bombers
Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls
Radicalisation
Religious intolerance
The veil
Electoral fraud
Dangerous taxis
Segregation of women
Clan / village politics
Homophobia
Sectarian rivalries

These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?
And don't forget "crash for cash", and other, insurance scams.
[quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism[/p][/quote]Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture Forced marriage Genital mutilation Honour Killings First cousin marriage Suicide bombers Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls Radicalisation Religious intolerance The veil Electoral fraud Dangerous taxis Segregation of women Clan / village politics Homophobia Sectarian rivalries These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?[/p][/quote]And don't forget "crash for cash", and other, insurance scams. Darren1951

10:43pm Wed 12 Feb 14

NelsonAsianButProudBritish says...

I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club. NelsonAsianButProudBritish

10:51pm Wed 12 Feb 14

NelsonAsianButProudBritish says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Biscay wrote:
idysalim wrote:
loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism
Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture
Forced marriage
Genital mutilation
Honour Killings
First cousin marriage
Suicide bombers
Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls
Radicalisation
Religious intolerance
The veil
Electoral fraud
Dangerous taxis
Segregation of women
Clan / village politics
Homophobia
Sectarian rivalries

These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?
And don't forget "crash for cash", and other, insurance scams.
You forgot asians also brought:

football violence costing millions in policing
mass paedophilia in the church
Benefit fraud
Alcohol related diseases costing billions to treat
Increase in cheap nasty chavvy drugs as oposed to cool drugs
huge increase in under age abortion rates
increase in STD'S (statistically proven)
the wearing of barbour clothing
an increase in clubland rapes

Ooooopss sorry im being sarcastic these are all white FACTS but then you already knew your own race is faltering like mesut ozil in a big game :-)
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism[/p][/quote]Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture Forced marriage Genital mutilation Honour Killings First cousin marriage Suicide bombers Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls Radicalisation Religious intolerance The veil Electoral fraud Dangerous taxis Segregation of women Clan / village politics Homophobia Sectarian rivalries These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?[/p][/quote]And don't forget "crash for cash", and other, insurance scams.[/p][/quote]You forgot asians also brought: football violence costing millions in policing mass paedophilia in the church Benefit fraud Alcohol related diseases costing billions to treat Increase in cheap nasty chavvy drugs as oposed to cool drugs huge increase in under age abortion rates increase in STD'S (statistically proven) the wearing of barbour clothing an increase in clubland rapes Ooooopss sorry im being sarcastic these are all white FACTS but then you already knew your own race is faltering like mesut ozil in a big game :-) NelsonAsianButProudBritish

10:55pm Wed 12 Feb 14

NelsonAsianButProudBritish says...

NelsonAsianButProudB
ritish
wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
Biscay wrote:
idysalim wrote:
loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism
Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture
Forced marriage
Genital mutilation
Honour Killings
First cousin marriage
Suicide bombers
Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls
Radicalisation
Religious intolerance
The veil
Electoral fraud
Dangerous taxis
Segregation of women
Clan / village politics
Homophobia
Sectarian rivalries

These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?
And don't forget "crash for cash", and other, insurance scams.
You forgot asians also brought:

football violence costing millions in policing
mass paedophilia in the church
Benefit fraud
Alcohol related diseases costing billions to treat
Increase in cheap nasty chavvy drugs as oposed to cool drugs
huge increase in under age abortion rates
increase in STD'S (statistically proven)
the wearing of barbour clothing
an increase in clubland rapes

Ooooopss sorry im being sarcastic these are all white FACTS but then you already knew your own race is faltering like mesut ozil in a big game :-)
but i agree on homophobia we did you a favour the whole town was going a bit boy george like.
[quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Biscay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: loving some of the comments on here..especially regarding asians..We've been here for 50 years and we aint going anywhere..the point about integration is laughable..in the 60s we experienced white flight and now no family can go without a curry for too long to the extent where in some discourses a curry is mentioned as a giant of British culture? please don't kid yourselves and as a Muslim I'll say it...the racists who are commenting are living in a bygone era.. the reason Blackburn is dead is due to stigmas faced by asians ..as much as you may deny no rationale is enough to hide your obvious dislike for asians and their culture ..theirs a word for that and i think its called racism[/p][/quote]Here are a few things that having lived in blackburn for 50 plus years that I have noted regarding the Muslim religion and SE Asian culture Forced marriage Genital mutilation Honour Killings First cousin marriage Suicide bombers Targeted grooming of white vulnerable girls Radicalisation Religious intolerance The veil Electoral fraud Dangerous taxis Segregation of women Clan / village politics Homophobia Sectarian rivalries These are facts - I don't believe it's racist to state a few facts?[/p][/quote]And don't forget "crash for cash", and other, insurance scams.[/p][/quote]You forgot asians also brought: football violence costing millions in policing mass paedophilia in the church Benefit fraud Alcohol related diseases costing billions to treat Increase in cheap nasty chavvy drugs as oposed to cool drugs huge increase in under age abortion rates increase in STD'S (statistically proven) the wearing of barbour clothing an increase in clubland rapes Ooooopss sorry im being sarcastic these are all white FACTS but then you already knew your own race is faltering like mesut ozil in a big game :-)[/p][/quote]but i agree on homophobia we did you a favour the whole town was going a bit boy george like. NelsonAsianButProudBritish

3:59pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

NelsonAsianButProudB
ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
[quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong. Lancs - pensioner

6:08pm Thu 13 Feb 14

peely says...

The sad but true reason as to the decline of Blackburn nightlife is due to the pure fact that half of the Blackburn of 2014 don't drink due to their religion therefore therefore fifty per cent less to use pubs and clubs ! Nothing to do with racism ,just simply fact .
The sad but true reason as to the decline of Blackburn nightlife is due to the pure fact that half of the Blackburn of 2014 don't drink due to their religion therefore therefore fifty per cent less to use pubs and clubs ! Nothing to do with racism ,just simply fact . peely

1:54am Fri 14 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB

ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.[/p][/quote]Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians. Simon44

2:48pm Fri 14 Feb 14

blackburn_citizen says...

its all very funny to read, blame the asian, blame the white man and in all of this the real culprits the council 'leaders' who have no ambition for the town going forwards get away with it. Its time we as residents of blackburn demanded more from our 'leaders' - who seem quite happy to swan around their communities with little to offer in terms of improvement.

i have to agree, there is nepotism in play when it comes to election of some of the ethnic councillors, there has also been alleged election rigging but then this is a disease that breathes in our electoral system across the land and not specific to blackburn.

Ultimately, our town is in decline and has been in decline for a very long time now, we must rescue it from going to the dogs otherwise as i am doing many parents will advise their children to leave town to pursue their careers and ambitions as the town they were born in will have died a slow painful death!

#sosblackburn
its all very funny to read, blame the asian, blame the white man and in all of this the real culprits the council 'leaders' who have no ambition for the town going forwards get away with it. Its time we as residents of blackburn demanded more from our 'leaders' - who seem quite happy to swan around their communities with little to offer in terms of improvement. i have to agree, there is nepotism in play when it comes to election of some of the ethnic councillors, there has also been alleged election rigging but then this is a disease that breathes in our electoral system across the land and not specific to blackburn. Ultimately, our town is in decline and has been in decline for a very long time now, we must rescue it from going to the dogs otherwise as i am doing many parents will advise their children to leave town to pursue their careers and ambitions as the town they were born in will have died a slow painful death! #sosblackburn blackburn_citizen

10:02am Sat 15 Feb 14

the white witch says...

Simon44 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB


ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.
I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians
B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested
C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested
D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people,
so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other.
What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.
[quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.[/p][/quote]Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.[/p][/quote]I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people, so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other. What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all. the white witch

7:12am Sun 16 Feb 14

Lancs Away says...

Too many posts to read them all, but tell me, when is the next local council election, make sure a local (as in white, born and bred) stands for election, maybe then we could go someway to returning Blackbirn with Darwen to the way it used to be....
Too many posts to read them all, but tell me, when is the next local council election, make sure a local (as in white, born and bred) stands for election, maybe then we could go someway to returning Blackbirn with Darwen to the way it used to be.... Lancs Away

2:16pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

the white witch wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB



ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.
I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians
B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested
C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested
D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people,
so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other.
What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.
The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.
[quote][p][bold]the white witch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.[/p][/quote]Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.[/p][/quote]I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people, so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other. What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.[/p][/quote]The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable. Simon44

2:36pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

Simon44 - two points (1) there are not only two "societies" in Blackburn, there are at least three, because there is also a sizeable non-muslim, Indian population. (2) I'd be very interested to find out what percentage of women who wear a "full" veil do so purely by choice, and how many of them do so by order of their spouses, or the male members of their own families.. I suspect that the figures would make interesting reading.
Simon44 - two points (1) there are not only two "societies" in Blackburn, there are at least three, because there is also a sizeable non-muslim, Indian population. (2) I'd be very interested to find out what percentage of women who wear a "full" veil do so purely by choice, and how many of them do so by order of their spouses, or the male members of their own families.. I suspect that the figures would make interesting reading. Darren1951

2:59pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Simon44 - two points (1) there are not only two "societies" in Blackburn, there are at least three, because there is also a sizeable non-muslim, Indian population. (2) I'd be very interested to find out what percentage of women who wear a "full" veil do so purely by choice, and how many of them do so by order of their spouses, or the male members of their own families.. I suspect that the figures would make interesting reading.
This was a very general view. I did mention others too. I spoke with a Home Office employee not so long ago. He said that, there were 70 different Nationalities who live in Blackburn. Bottom line is that, every one should be encouraged to integrate. Only then, we may not see people appearing with Pyjama like outfits on our streets !! This can only be achieved by showing a little respect and opening our Hearts to each other. People of ALL Races are Humans too.
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Simon44 - two points (1) there are not only two "societies" in Blackburn, there are at least three, because there is also a sizeable non-muslim, Indian population. (2) I'd be very interested to find out what percentage of women who wear a "full" veil do so purely by choice, and how many of them do so by order of their spouses, or the male members of their own families.. I suspect that the figures would make interesting reading.[/p][/quote]This was a very general view. I did mention others too. I spoke with a Home Office employee not so long ago. He said that, there were 70 different Nationalities who live in Blackburn. Bottom line is that, every one should be encouraged to integrate. Only then, we may not see people appearing with Pyjama like outfits on our streets !! This can only be achieved by showing a little respect and opening our Hearts to each other. People of ALL Races are Humans too. Simon44

3:34pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Darren1951 says...

Simon44 - from you original post..."There are two distinct Societies living side by side". Where did you mention "others"? Personally, although I have very little, if any, issue with the matter of a person's mode of dress, I do consider the wearing of a full face veil (note the spelling) in public both outlandish, and an insult to all (relatively) law-abiding men. In my opinion, it should not be permitted.
Simon44 - from you original post..."There are two distinct Societies living side by side". Where did you mention "others"? Personally, although I have very little, if any, issue with the matter of a person's mode of dress, I do consider the wearing of a full face veil (note the spelling) in public both outlandish, and an insult to all (relatively) law-abiding men. In my opinion, it should not be permitted. Darren1951

6:31pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

Lancs Away wrote:
Too many posts to read them all, but tell me, when is the next local council election, make sure a local (as in white, born and bred) stands for election, maybe then we could go someway to returning Blackbirn with Darwen to the way it used to be....
Jack Straw is white born and bred and that's what got us into this mess in the first place!!
[quote][p][bold]Lancs Away[/bold] wrote: Too many posts to read them all, but tell me, when is the next local council election, make sure a local (as in white, born and bred) stands for election, maybe then we could go someway to returning Blackbirn with Darwen to the way it used to be....[/p][/quote]Jack Straw is white born and bred and that's what got us into this mess in the first place!! Lancs - pensioner

6:41pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

Simon44 wrote:
the white witch wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB




ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.
I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians
B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested
C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested
D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people,
so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other.
What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.
The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.
Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why?
[quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the white witch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.[/p][/quote]Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.[/p][/quote]I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people, so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other. What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.[/p][/quote]The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.[/p][/quote]Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why? Lancs - pensioner

7:10pm Sun 16 Feb 14

council intern says...

90% of Asian councillors within BWDC are up to their necks in dirty clan based politics and corruption. The 10% who aren't are just as bad for letting it happen.
90% of Asian councillors within BWDC are up to their necks in dirty clan based politics and corruption. The 10% who aren't are just as bad for letting it happen. council intern

8:19pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
the white witch wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB





ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.
I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians
B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested
C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested
D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people,
so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other.
What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.
The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.
Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why?
Lancs Pensioner says;Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why? These I believe are signs of a nearly broken society. People of low intelligence are easily Brain washed to serve a ( ANY ) purpose. In the History of Humanity most crimes have been committed in the name of religion than any other. Christian against Christian ... Hindo against Islam.... Islam against Islam - and everybody else ! That is why I am an Atheist. What you have mentioned are - in my opinion - not hate crimes. In Syria it is Islam against Islam. We should talk about ANYTHING openly without having to refer to the book of Law to see if we are allowed to. Did God intend this for his Children? Another reason why I do not follow any religion. ...
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the white witch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.[/p][/quote]Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.[/p][/quote]I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people, so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other. What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.[/p][/quote]The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.[/p][/quote]Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why?[/p][/quote]Lancs Pensioner says;Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why? These I believe are signs of a nearly broken society. People of low intelligence are easily Brain washed to serve a ( ANY ) purpose. In the History of Humanity most crimes have been committed in the name of religion than any other. Christian against Christian ... Hindo against Islam.... Islam against Islam - and everybody else ! That is why I am an Atheist. What you have mentioned are - in my opinion - not hate crimes. In Syria it is Islam against Islam. We should talk about ANYTHING openly without having to refer to the book of Law to see if we are allowed to. Did God intend this for his Children? Another reason why I do not follow any religion. ... Simon44

8:56pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

Simon44 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
the white witch wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB






ritish
wrote:
I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.
Hi Nelson
Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know.
The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question.
IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.
Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.
I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians
B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested
C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested
D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people,
so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other.
What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.
The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.
Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why?
Lancs Pensioner says;Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why? These I believe are signs of a nearly broken society. People of low intelligence are easily Brain washed to serve a ( ANY ) purpose. In the History of Humanity most crimes have been committed in the name of religion than any other. Christian against Christian ... Hindo against Islam.... Islam against Islam - and everybody else ! That is why I am an Atheist. What you have mentioned are - in my opinion - not hate crimes. In Syria it is Islam against Islam. We should talk about ANYTHING openly without having to refer to the book of Law to see if we are allowed to. Did God intend this for his Children? Another reason why I do not follow any religion. ...
Fair points Simon but where does this leave us, do we ignore there is a very serious problem with the Muslim faith all over the world never mind just here and we are right in the middle of it, again when I see a veil being worn or some other trivial things that upset us so called whites we should be more reasonable in our views but the more serious problems that are happening here and abroad are not to be turned a blind eye to, I'm to old and these problems won't affect me but our Grandchildren may not be so lucky, religion has a lot to answer for, many a war has broken out because of it and I can see one happening in our our next generations life time (unfortunately).
[quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the white witch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I as an asian can only say that Blackburn in general has racism and poverty oozing out of every wretched pothold in its damned greying decayed streets. These taxi drivers have second homes in Pakistan, 5 sons each all drug dealing and driving super powered cars and then have the nerve to be photographed here looking for sympathy from working class taxpayers? no chance. I'm asian, yes. Muslim, yes. But i cannot be a part of this shambles. Why can Blackburn not join forces in condeming Jimmy Saville? The non asian / white community just havent done enough to speak out about the worst atrocity to ever hit british shores forget bloody taxi's and club.[/p][/quote]Hi Nelson Your quite right when talking about us Whites, we do all of the above as does some of the Asian community and yes Jimmy Saville was one of the worst, what my gripe has always been and I have posted it several times is the Asian community tend not to mix, so we never get to know what your genuinely like, you live in your own community's and to us seeing Veils and strange clothing does go against the grain, we possibly see it as a threat against our community's I honestly don't know. The majority of people agree that Blackburn is now 35% Asian all living in pockets in the town, where else does this happen, where else is there a town of 35% Italians or 35% Chinese or Russian where they all live in pockets of that town and don't mix, this is not me having a go at the Asians it's a genuine question. IMO until your community's start to genuinely mix with other community's the posts on here will always be an us against them scenario and I agree some folk see these stories to get at you, others like me to ask a genuine question, hope this goes a little way to see how I think be it right or wrong.[/p][/quote]Both sides are as guilty for NOT mixing. Around 20 years ago, when the FIRST Asian bought a house on my street, lots of houses went up for sale, and prices dropped somewhat. I did NOT sell. Eventually an Asian family bought next door to mine. Over time, they have been the best friends and neighbours that I could ever wish for. I was ill, they cooked for me and looked after me. They also did my shopping and cleaned my house. Us Brits are xenophobic and with a big chip on our shoulders. Most of us seem to forget that, these people at one time were the subjects on our Empire and WE brought them here to help us rebuild our country and run our factories. Over the years, we have mis treated eveyone. The Irish .... The Asians.[/p][/quote]I partially agree with both the statements but when you read the papers this is what you read A) young girls being groomed by asians B) insurance scams in Blackburn, asians arrested C) Drugs raids in Blackburn, 3 white men arrested D) Young white lads car racing killed 2 people, so what i am trying to say is both white & asian is as bad as each other. What this country should do is make a law that whatever country you go to live in you MUST abide by that country`s ways of life like it`s unfair that a veil over the face covers all more than the eyes is permitted & yet others cannot keep a hood up in places, it should be one law for us all.[/p][/quote]The definition of " SOCIETY " is when a group of people " interact and integrate ". Unfortunately, we do not have this in Blackburn. There are two distinct Societies living side by side with an exception for a very few who have integrated. One of the pillars of democracy is also to respect the religion of an individual, be it wearing the Vail. If some one needs to look like a Ninja due to her religious beliefs, this too should be accepted. It should be for that individual to understand that, some people around her may NOT feel comfortable.[/p][/quote]Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why?[/p][/quote]Lancs Pensioner says;Hi Simon, some people are uncomfortable when I ask who killed Private Rigby, who blew up our London buses, which people going over to Syria to fight in a war that has nothing to do with them, I will never get an answer from anyone because it's a subject we don't talk about, why? These I believe are signs of a nearly broken society. People of low intelligence are easily Brain washed to serve a ( ANY ) purpose. In the History of Humanity most crimes have been committed in the name of religion than any other. Christian against Christian ... Hindo against Islam.... Islam against Islam - and everybody else ! That is why I am an Atheist. What you have mentioned are - in my opinion - not hate crimes. In Syria it is Islam against Islam. We should talk about ANYTHING openly without having to refer to the book of Law to see if we are allowed to. Did God intend this for his Children? Another reason why I do not follow any religion. ...[/p][/quote]Fair points Simon but where does this leave us, do we ignore there is a very serious problem with the Muslim faith all over the world never mind just here and we are right in the middle of it, again when I see a veil being worn or some other trivial things that upset us so called whites we should be more reasonable in our views but the more serious problems that are happening here and abroad are not to be turned a blind eye to, I'm to old and these problems won't affect me but our Grandchildren may not be so lucky, religion has a lot to answer for, many a war has broken out because of it and I can see one happening in our our next generations life time (unfortunately). Lancs - pensioner

9:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Lancs Pensioner say: Where do we go from here? I guess the community leaders and Politicians should be consulted. I work with some of these lads. I do not have any problems. I get on with everyone, but when necessary, I do put my point across bluntly.
Lancs Pensioner say: Where do we go from here? I guess the community leaders and Politicians should be consulted. I work with some of these lads. I do not have any problems. I get on with everyone, but when necessary, I do put my point across bluntly. Simon44

9:43pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

At least you put you your point across verbally, this is the only way, fighting amongst fellow human beings will hopefully never win, been nice talking to you.
At least you put you your point across verbally, this is the only way, fighting amongst fellow human beings will hopefully never win, been nice talking to you. Lancs - pensioner

12:18am Mon 17 Feb 14

Steven11 says...

Copperhead wrote:
You've got to admire the sheer brass neck of the two Asians in the photo.
For a culture that bans drinking and gambling - muslims, I mean, because it's a way of life for it's followers, not just a religion - they've got a bloody nerve complaining about a lack of nightlife !!!!!!
Nightlife in the " decadent " West has always involved drinking and, to a lesser extent, gambling. The huge influx of muslims into Blackburn - maybe 25000 of them - has caused " white flight ". The working-class residents of so many areas have done a runner, not wanting to live cheek-by-jowl with an alien culture. And, of course, the muslims don't want to integrate with the " kuffirs " any more than we want to integrate with them.
Sad, but true, and a damning indictment of ZaNuLabour's attempts at social engineering by encouraging so much immigration.
Of course, the decline in our traditional economies - caused by politicians who wanted to destroy union, and hence worker's power - and the current recession ( which will last until at least 2025 I reckon ) have made things worse.
Add in Britain's draconian drink-drive and anti-smoking laws and you have the perfect storm to destroy our traditional way of socialising of an evening.
In about 50yrs, we'll all come back from the mosque after Friday prayers and open a bottle or two of illicit moonshine, so all's not lost.
You only need to go to the windmill pub on most nights of the week , you will see lots of these Asians , double standards two faced Muslims drinking double shots of alcohol , getting out of order , some get barred , shouting when they do . Then you see them in their silly robes and pathetic shoes .
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: You've got to admire the sheer brass neck of the two Asians in the photo. For a culture that bans drinking and gambling - muslims, I mean, because it's a way of life for it's followers, not just a religion - they've got a bloody nerve complaining about a lack of nightlife !!!!!! Nightlife in the " decadent " West has always involved drinking and, to a lesser extent, gambling. The huge influx of muslims into Blackburn - maybe 25000 of them - has caused " white flight ". The working-class residents of so many areas have done a runner, not wanting to live cheek-by-jowl with an alien culture. And, of course, the muslims don't want to integrate with the " kuffirs " any more than we want to integrate with them. Sad, but true, and a damning indictment of ZaNuLabour's attempts at social engineering by encouraging so much immigration. Of course, the decline in our traditional economies - caused by politicians who wanted to destroy union, and hence worker's power - and the current recession ( which will last until at least 2025 I reckon ) have made things worse. Add in Britain's draconian drink-drive and anti-smoking laws and you have the perfect storm to destroy our traditional way of socialising of an evening. In about 50yrs, we'll all come back from the mosque after Friday prayers and open a bottle or two of illicit moonshine, so all's not lost.[/p][/quote]You only need to go to the windmill pub on most nights of the week , you will see lots of these Asians , double standards two faced Muslims drinking double shots of alcohol , getting out of order , some get barred , shouting when they do . Then you see them in their silly robes and pathetic shoes . Steven11

12:43am Mon 17 Feb 14

Steven11 says...

You only need to go to the windmill pub on most nights of the week , you will see lots of these Asians , double standards two faced Muslims drinking double shots of alcohol , getting out of order , some get barred , shouting when they do . Then you see them in their silly robes and pathetic shoes .
You only need to go to the windmill pub on most nights of the week , you will see lots of these Asians , double standards two faced Muslims drinking double shots of alcohol , getting out of order , some get barred , shouting when they do . Then you see them in their silly robes and pathetic shoes . Steven11

4:17am Mon 17 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Steven11 wrote:
You only need to go to the windmill pub on most nights of the week , you will see lots of these Asians , double standards two faced Muslims drinking double shots of alcohol , getting out of order , some get barred , shouting when they do . Then you see them in their silly robes and pathetic shoes .
They are doing what the white lads have done for a long time. Is it their presence which offends you or what they wear? From where i am standing, I can see it as " buds of integration " being set. They are breaking away from their traditions and you complain. Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]Steven11[/bold] wrote: You only need to go to the windmill pub on most nights of the week , you will see lots of these Asians , double standards two faced Muslims drinking double shots of alcohol , getting out of order , some get barred , shouting when they do . Then you see them in their silly robes and pathetic shoes .[/p][/quote]They are doing what the white lads have done for a long time. Is it their presence which offends you or what they wear? From where i am standing, I can see it as " buds of integration " being set. They are breaking away from their traditions and you complain. Pathetic. Simon44

10:17am Mon 17 Feb 14

Marconi says...

As a resident of Australia for the last 40 years, the quote from Casius Clay, who at that time was not a Muslim "The lion will never run with the zebra" I am sorry to say has now come to fruition. Glad I made the move
As a resident of Australia for the last 40 years, the quote from Casius Clay, who at that time was not a Muslim "The lion will never run with the zebra" I am sorry to say has now come to fruition. Glad I made the move Marconi

1:36pm Mon 17 Feb 14

George Khan says...

So Macaroni has become an immigrant
And he looks down on others who emigrated
From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident
And tries to blody vindicate why he departed
I hope you have not become like a native Aussie
You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven
Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine
Only fools and bigots would have such conviction
I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani
So Macaroni has become an immigrant And he looks down on others who emigrated From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident And tries to blody vindicate why he departed I hope you have not become like a native Aussie You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine Only fools and bigots would have such conviction I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani George Khan

12:36am Tue 18 Feb 14

Marconi says...

George Khan wrote:
So Macaroni has become an immigrant
And he looks down on others who emigrated
From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident
And tries to blody vindicate why he departed
I hope you have not become like a native Aussie
You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven
Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine
Only fools and bigots would have such conviction
I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani
Your post is full of so much garbage that one can only expect from someone who refuses to accept the truth. I ask you a question "Is Blackburn in better shape today than when you, or your ancestors first arrived"?. If you don't know the answer read the posts in this thread. Your knowledge of Australia is zilch. Australia is a great country, made great by ALL peoples of the world, who have INTERGRATED (not like you, and dare i say, without being branded a RACIST Muslim people in the UK) into the great Australian lifestyle that is evident today, and not come here and tried to put in force there old antiquated laws and cultures and bringing it down to the level of some of the third world countries they have just left. Have you heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The arrogance of you people amazes me.
[quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: So Macaroni has become an immigrant And he looks down on others who emigrated From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident And tries to blody vindicate why he departed I hope you have not become like a native Aussie You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine Only fools and bigots would have such conviction I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani[/p][/quote]Your post is full of so much garbage that one can only expect from someone who refuses to accept the truth. I ask you a question "Is Blackburn in better shape today than when you, or your ancestors first arrived"?. If you don't know the answer read the posts in this thread. Your knowledge of Australia is zilch. Australia is a great country, made great by ALL peoples of the world, who have INTERGRATED (not like you, and dare i say, without being branded a RACIST Muslim people in the UK) into the great Australian lifestyle that is evident today, and not come here and tried to put in force there old antiquated laws and cultures and bringing it down to the level of some of the third world countries they have just left. Have you heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The arrogance of you people amazes me. Marconi

2:41am Tue 18 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

Marconi wrote:
George Khan wrote:
So Macaroni has become an immigrant
And he looks down on others who emigrated
From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident
And tries to blody vindicate why he departed
I hope you have not become like a native Aussie
You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven
Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine
Only fools and bigots would have such conviction
I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani
Your post is full of so much garbage that one can only expect from someone who refuses to accept the truth. I ask you a question "Is Blackburn in better shape today than when you, or your ancestors first arrived"?. If you don't know the answer read the posts in this thread. Your knowledge of Australia is zilch. Australia is a great country, made great by ALL peoples of the world, who have INTERGRATED (not like you, and dare i say, without being branded a RACIST Muslim people in the UK) into the great Australian lifestyle that is evident today, and not come here and tried to put in force there old antiquated laws and cultures and bringing it down to the level of some of the third world countries they have just left. Have you heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The arrogance of you people amazes me.
Marconi , as you know so much about Australia, please enlighten us by giving a brief history of the Foundation of Australia. Please also tell us what is a " POM ".
Waiting to read your reply.
[quote][p][bold]Marconi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: So Macaroni has become an immigrant And he looks down on others who emigrated From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident And tries to blody vindicate why he departed I hope you have not become like a native Aussie You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine Only fools and bigots would have such conviction I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani[/p][/quote]Your post is full of so much garbage that one can only expect from someone who refuses to accept the truth. I ask you a question "Is Blackburn in better shape today than when you, or your ancestors first arrived"?. If you don't know the answer read the posts in this thread. Your knowledge of Australia is zilch. Australia is a great country, made great by ALL peoples of the world, who have INTERGRATED (not like you, and dare i say, without being branded a RACIST Muslim people in the UK) into the great Australian lifestyle that is evident today, and not come here and tried to put in force there old antiquated laws and cultures and bringing it down to the level of some of the third world countries they have just left. Have you heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The arrogance of you people amazes me.[/p][/quote]Marconi , as you know so much about Australia, please enlighten us by giving a brief history of the Foundation of Australia. Please also tell us what is a " POM ". Waiting to read your reply. Simon44

6:03am Tue 18 Feb 14

Marconi says...

Simon44 wrote:
Marconi wrote:
George Khan wrote:
So Macaroni has become an immigrant
And he looks down on others who emigrated
From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident
And tries to blody vindicate why he departed
I hope you have not become like a native Aussie
You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven
Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine
Only fools and bigots would have such conviction
I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani
Your post is full of so much garbage that one can only expect from someone who refuses to accept the truth. I ask you a question "Is Blackburn in better shape today than when you, or your ancestors first arrived"?. If you don't know the answer read the posts in this thread. Your knowledge of Australia is zilch. Australia is a great country, made great by ALL peoples of the world, who have INTERGRATED (not like you, and dare i say, without being branded a RACIST Muslim people in the UK) into the great Australian lifestyle that is evident today, and not come here and tried to put in force there old antiquated laws and cultures and bringing it down to the level of some of the third world countries they have just left. Have you heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The arrogance of you people amazes me.
Marconi , as you know so much about Australia, please enlighten us by giving a brief history of the Foundation of Australia. Please also tell us what is a " POM ".
Waiting to read your reply.
Simon44, Where have i said in my post that i know so much about Australia? Those are your words not mine, which is typical of your ilk. History is just that, history, but what matters most is what is happening today. Like it or not, you cannot compare what is happening, in your case, Blackburn, according to majority of posts above, their words not mine, compared to what is going on here. Like i said before, all nationaiities are arriving, and i have many friends amongst them. Does that sound like i am a bigot. It takes one to know one, and yes i have become a native Aussie and also proud of that. As for the word POM or POME, i suggest you GOOGLE it. You will find there are quite a few varied explanations. Pick the one you think is most appropriate.
[quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marconi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George Khan[/bold] wrote: So Macaroni has become an immigrant And he looks down on others who emigrated From afar he preaches like a defiant dissident And tries to blody vindicate why he departed I hope you have not become like a native Aussie You know, the ones who think that Australia is a haven Only for Whites, not Asians or the real natives, the Aborigine Only fools and bigots would have such conviction I hope, one day, it becomes full of putters that are Pakistani[/p][/quote]Your post is full of so much garbage that one can only expect from someone who refuses to accept the truth. I ask you a question "Is Blackburn in better shape today than when you, or your ancestors first arrived"?. If you don't know the answer read the posts in this thread. Your knowledge of Australia is zilch. Australia is a great country, made great by ALL peoples of the world, who have INTERGRATED (not like you, and dare i say, without being branded a RACIST Muslim people in the UK) into the great Australian lifestyle that is evident today, and not come here and tried to put in force there old antiquated laws and cultures and bringing it down to the level of some of the third world countries they have just left. Have you heard the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The arrogance of you people amazes me.[/p][/quote]Marconi , as you know so much about Australia, please enlighten us by giving a brief history of the Foundation of Australia. Please also tell us what is a " POM ". Waiting to read your reply.[/p][/quote]Simon44, Where have i said in my post that i know so much about Australia? Those are your words not mine, which is typical of your ilk. History is just that, history, but what matters most is what is happening today. Like it or not, you cannot compare what is happening, in your case, Blackburn, according to majority of posts above, their words not mine, compared to what is going on here. Like i said before, all nationaiities are arriving, and i have many friends amongst them. Does that sound like i am a bigot. It takes one to know one, and yes i have become a native Aussie and also proud of that. As for the word POM or POME, i suggest you GOOGLE it. You will find there are quite a few varied explanations. Pick the one you think is most appropriate. Marconi

12:05am Wed 19 Feb 14

idysalim says...

difference between the UK and Australia - the majority of immigrants were invited to work here in the UK... Australia,they went there ,uprooted those who were in the way, brought over a shed load of diseases and soon the white population vastly outnumbered the natives...you want to talk about integration? anybody remember rhodesia?now known rightfully as Zimbabwe..that little experiment in social cohesion didnt go down too well did it? lynching and all that malarkey...

forget your baseless comments about asians in the uk,without us you can say goodbye to your curries and kebabs,the majority of your taxis..thats unless those against asian culture are willing to work for less then 4pound an hour in overheated kitchen with no sickpay or breaks?white people simply would not accept such pay and rightly so...we asians will,its a necessary consequence of modern British life,this is the true reality..and thats without going into detail about the NHS,you go into medical courses at universities and the percentage of british asians students present is way above the 4% we occupy in thr population..im sorry but were here to stay
difference between the UK and Australia - the majority of immigrants were invited to work here in the UK... Australia,they went there ,uprooted those who were in the way, brought over a shed load of diseases and soon the white population vastly outnumbered the natives...you want to talk about integration? anybody remember rhodesia?now known rightfully as Zimbabwe..that little experiment in social cohesion didnt go down too well did it? lynching and all that malarkey... forget your baseless comments about asians in the uk,without us you can say goodbye to your curries and kebabs,the majority of your taxis..thats unless those against asian culture are willing to work for less then 4pound an hour in overheated kitchen with no sickpay or breaks?white people simply would not accept such pay and rightly so...we asians will,its a necessary consequence of modern British life,this is the true reality..and thats without going into detail about the NHS,you go into medical courses at universities and the percentage of british asians students present is way above the 4% we occupy in thr population..im sorry but were here to stay idysalim

3:12am Wed 19 Feb 14

Simon44 says...

idysalim wrote:
difference between the UK and Australia - the majority of immigrants were invited to work here in the UK... Australia,they went there ,uprooted those who were in the way, brought over a shed load of diseases and soon the white population vastly outnumbered the natives...you want to talk about integration? anybody remember rhodesia?now known rightfully as Zimbabwe..that little experiment in social cohesion didnt go down too well did it? lynching and all that malarkey...

forget your baseless comments about asians in the uk,without us you can say goodbye to your curries and kebabs,the majority of your taxis..thats unless those against asian culture are willing to work for less then 4pound an hour in overheated kitchen with no sickpay or breaks?white people simply would not accept such pay and rightly so...we asians will,its a necessary consequence of modern British life,this is the true reality..and thats without going into detail about the NHS,you go into medical courses at universities and the percentage of british asians students present is way above the 4% we occupy in thr population..im sorry but were here to stay
Dear @ idysalim. If you read the Posts properly, you will note that, due to our vast cultural and religious differences most of your people have not managed to integrate into a modern European society and as time goes by and also due to some unexpected evens like 9/11 and 7/7 , the need for your people to integrate becomes more urgent. I for one have many Asian friends and I have made it known to them that, they are welcomed to my house at any time provided that, they are NOT wearing the Pyjama type outfits. Australia or Rhodesia and so on are just Red Herrings. Please avoid. I have a lot more to say but, it is late hours.
[quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: difference between the UK and Australia - the majority of immigrants were invited to work here in the UK... Australia,they went there ,uprooted those who were in the way, brought over a shed load of diseases and soon the white population vastly outnumbered the natives...you want to talk about integration? anybody remember rhodesia?now known rightfully as Zimbabwe..that little experiment in social cohesion didnt go down too well did it? lynching and all that malarkey... forget your baseless comments about asians in the uk,without us you can say goodbye to your curries and kebabs,the majority of your taxis..thats unless those against asian culture are willing to work for less then 4pound an hour in overheated kitchen with no sickpay or breaks?white people simply would not accept such pay and rightly so...we asians will,its a necessary consequence of modern British life,this is the true reality..and thats without going into detail about the NHS,you go into medical courses at universities and the percentage of british asians students present is way above the 4% we occupy in thr population..im sorry but were here to stay[/p][/quote]Dear @ idysalim. If you read the Posts properly, you will note that, due to our vast cultural and religious differences most of your people have not managed to integrate into a modern European society and as time goes by and also due to some unexpected evens like 9/11 and 7/7 , the need for your people to integrate becomes more urgent. I for one have many Asian friends and I have made it known to them that, they are welcomed to my house at any time provided that, they are NOT wearing the Pyjama type outfits. Australia or Rhodesia and so on are just Red Herrings. Please avoid. I have a lot more to say but, it is late hours. Simon44

11:26pm Fri 28 Feb 14

patriotno1 says...

idysalim wrote:
Simon44 wrote:
idysalim wrote:
difference between the UK and Australia - the majority of immigrants were invited to work here in the UK... Australia,they went there ,uprooted those who were in the way, brought over a shed load of diseases and soon the white population vastly outnumbered the natives...you want to talk about integration? anybody remember rhodesia?now known rightfully as Zimbabwe..that little experiment in social cohesion didnt go down too well did it? lynching and all that malarkey...

forget your baseless comments about asians in the uk,without us you can say goodbye to your curries and kebabs,the majority of your taxis..thats unless those against asian culture are willing to work for less then 4pound an hour in overheated kitchen with no sickpay or breaks?white people simply would not accept such pay and rightly so...we asians will,its a necessary consequence of modern British life,this is the true reality..and thats without going into detail about the NHS,you go into medical courses at universities and the percentage of british asians students present is way above the 4% we occupy in thr population..im sorry but were here to stay
Dear @ idysalim. If you read the Posts properly, you will note that, due to our vast cultural and religious differences most of your people have not managed to integrate into a modern European society and as time goes by and also due to some unexpected evens like 9/11 and 7/7 , the need for your people to integrate becomes more urgent. I for one have many Asian friends and I have made it known to them that, they are welcomed to my house at any time provided that, they are NOT wearing the Pyjama type outfits. Australia or Rhodesia and so on are just Red Herrings. Please avoid. I have a lot more to say but, it is late hours.
hi simon,glad you tackled my first point about this word thats increasingly bandied about these days, 'integration' by dismissing it as a red herring seems to me very ambiguous...

simon would you work for less then 4pound an hour in a sweaty hot takeaway with no sick pay and no holiday leave?I know many young and old British asian lads working for that much..simon would you?!

how many young british lads do you know actually enrolled in a medical course at university? I know many..the vast vast majority are not white,and a significant amount are asian..seems to me most British white lads the younger ones would rather be bricklayers or plumbers etc rather then spend 8+ years studying to become doctors...why is this Simon? simon how many young white people do you know interested in such professions? and thats without even going into pharmacy,Law and teaching

before you buy a curry,do you complain to who is serving about their and their families lack of integration,then accept your curry? when your **** out your head (assuming you drink) do you first ask the taxi driver if he has integrated enough before getting in and going home? when your ridiculously sick and you need a prescription,do you ask the asian doctor(we've all had them) that you only see fully integrated doctors and therefore cant accept his medical advice or his prescription?

alot of this seems to go back to appearance and dress...well tbh im sure There are people out there who feel uncomfortable with goths or moshers,they can SEEM to dress pretty intimidatingly, or those people with tatoos and piercings covering their whole faces...you learn to accept mate...

integration..simon its been mentioned on these posts before but white flight? there was no asian areas in this country before!! whites moved out simple as that,simon will you deny this? and now cuz of 9/11 or 7/7 its up to US to integrate...the hypocrisy is laughable!!

learn to accept seeing us on British streets..in out suits or in our traditional clothes..frankly mate if you don't like it then you can bugger if to the asian free haven of Australia! sure people like u are welcome there judging by some ofnthe comments
you are not right in the head."hangings and that malarkey".stop trying to be clever.and you bugger off and take your stinking curries and kebabs and clapped out so called taxis with you.good on australia try getting in there with your pathetic command of the english language.enough time wasted on you (you nutter).
[quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]idysalim[/bold] wrote: difference between the UK and Australia - the majority of immigrants were invited to work here in the UK... Australia,they went there ,uprooted those who were in the way, brought over a shed load of diseases and soon the white population vastly outnumbered the natives...you want to talk about integration? anybody remember rhodesia?now known rightfully as Zimbabwe..that little experiment in social cohesion didnt go down too well did it? lynching and all that malarkey... forget your baseless comments about asians in the uk,without us you can say goodbye to your curries and kebabs,the majority of your taxis..thats unless those against asian culture are willing to work for less then 4pound an hour in overheated kitchen with no sickpay or breaks?white people simply would not accept such pay and rightly so...we asians will,its a necessary consequence of modern British life,this is the true reality..and thats without going into detail about the NHS,you go into medical courses at universities and the percentage of british asians students present is way above the 4% we occupy in thr population..im sorry but were here to stay[/p][/quote]Dear @ idysalim. If you read the Posts properly, you will note that, due to our vast cultural and religious differences most of your people have not managed to integrate into a modern European society and as time goes by and also due to some unexpected evens like 9/11 and 7/7 , the need for your people to integrate becomes more urgent. I for one have many Asian friends and I have made it known to them that, they are welcomed to my house at any time provided that, they are NOT wearing the Pyjama type outfits. Australia or Rhodesia and so on are just Red Herrings. Please avoid. I have a lot more to say but, it is late hours.[/p][/quote]hi simon,glad you tackled my first point about this word thats increasingly bandied about these days, 'integration' by dismissing it as a red herring seems to me very ambiguous... simon would you work for less then 4pound an hour in a sweaty hot takeaway with no sick pay and no holiday leave?I know many young and old British asian lads working for that much..simon would you?! how many young british lads do you know actually enrolled in a medical course at university? I know many..the vast vast majority are not white,and a significant amount are asian..seems to me most British white lads the younger ones would rather be bricklayers or plumbers etc rather then spend 8+ years studying to become doctors...why is this Simon? simon how many young white people do you know interested in such professions? and thats without even going into pharmacy,Law and teaching before you buy a curry,do you complain to who is serving about their and their families lack of integration,then accept your curry? when your **** out your head (assuming you drink) do you first ask the taxi driver if he has integrated enough before getting in and going home? when your ridiculously sick and you need a prescription,do you ask the asian doctor(we've all had them) that you only see fully integrated doctors and therefore cant accept his medical advice or his prescription? alot of this seems to go back to appearance and dress...well tbh im sure There are people out there who feel uncomfortable with goths or moshers,they can SEEM to dress pretty intimidatingly, or those people with tatoos and piercings covering their whole faces...you learn to accept mate... integration..simon its been mentioned on these posts before but white flight? there was no asian areas in this country before!! whites moved out simple as that,simon will you deny this? and now cuz of 9/11 or 7/7 its up to US to integrate...the hypocrisy is laughable!! learn to accept seeing us on British streets..in out suits or in our traditional clothes..frankly mate if you don't like it then you can bugger if to the asian free haven of Australia! sure people like u are welcome there judging by some ofnthe comments[/p][/quote]you are not right in the head."hangings and that malarkey".stop trying to be clever.and you bugger off and take your stinking curries and kebabs and clapped out so called taxis with you.good on australia try getting in there with your pathetic command of the english language.enough time wasted on you (you nutter). patriotno1

12:11am Sat 1 Mar 14

patriotno1 says...

cannot change their job at their time of life.no i see what you mean sitting on your backside all day is .what they are used to.you will never ever see one of these so called men doing a manual job.they are weak and need looking after like little babies.
cannot change their job at their time of life.no i see what you mean sitting on your backside all day is .what they are used to.you will never ever see one of these so called men doing a manual job.they are weak and need looking after like little babies. patriotno1

12:22am Sat 1 Mar 14

patriotno1 says...

times change for us all.goodbye asian losers the polish are taking over your role,and they do not suffer fools.
times change for us all.goodbye asian losers the polish are taking over your role,and they do not suffer fools. patriotno1

11:42pm Thu 6 Mar 14

idysalim says...

patriotno1 wrote:
times change for us all.goodbye asian losers the polish are taking over your role,and they do not suffer fools.
you live in a deluded world, your ignorance is expected
[quote][p][bold]patriotno1[/bold] wrote: times change for us all.goodbye asian losers the polish are taking over your role,and they do not suffer fools.[/p][/quote]you live in a deluded world, your ignorance is expected idysalim

11:44pm Thu 6 Mar 14

idysalim says...

also would love to see a polish doctor
also would love to see a polish doctor idysalim

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