Bullies drew a knife at my son, says Blackburn father

Blackburn Citizen: Tahir Hussain and son Binyameen Tahir Hussain and son Binyameen

A FATHER removed his son from a Blackburn school after claiming he had repeatedly complained about bullying.

Tahir Hussain said his 13-year-old son Binyameen, had been psychically and verbally assaulted by an older student and that he was even threatened with a knife in the toilets of his former high school.

Mr Hussain said he has contacted St Wilfrid’s Academy high school repeatedly about the issue and had reported two instances to Ofsted and the police.

A spokeswoman for Lancashire police confirmed officers were aware of the situation and had spoken to both boys involved but, having found no evidence of a knife, decided it was a matter for the school. Ofsted also confirmed it had been contacted.

But Mr Hussain said he had ‘lost hope’ and ‘given up’ on the school.

Mr Hussain said: “My son was in the toilets and an older student pulled out a knife and showed it to my son. They seem to be trying to brush it under the carpet so they don’t have to deal with it.”

Mr Hussain said he and his wife watched their son loose interest in things he once loved, lose weight and become introverted.

They even took him to accident and emergency at the Royal Blackburn Hospital twice, when he was physically sick and shaking at the thought of going to school.

Binyameen has now missed six weeks of school and Mr Hussain is trying to find him a place elsewhere.

Mr Hussain said: “My son has lost half a stone in seven weeks. This whole thing has made him ill and for a long time, we didn’t know what was wrong.

“He was too scared to tell us about the bullying and we were worried he had a health problem.

“He eventually told us and we went to the school straight away but they just won’t deal with it.”

A spokesperson for St Wilfrid’s said: “The school has proactively recorded and managed this issue at every stage.

“When the police became involved they told the school they were satisfied we had taken the matter very seriously and were happy with our actions in relation to the issue.

“The issue continues to be monitored and we would not wish to comment further at this stage.”

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10:14pm Thu 6 Feb 14

noddy57 says...

Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,
Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down , noddy57

10:17pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Mothernature says...

LT, you really need to proof read your stories. It's lose, not loose. Far too many people of late seem to be making this simple mistake.
LT, you really need to proof read your stories. It's lose, not loose. Far too many people of late seem to be making this simple mistake. Mothernature

10:50pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Jarisleif5 says...

And going to the papers really won't make him a target in the future, will it.
And going to the papers really won't make him a target in the future, will it. Jarisleif5

10:59pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

noddy57 wrote:
Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,
That's if the parent and child are telling the truth, I suggest you read Blackburnreaders blog then comment!!!
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,[/p][/quote]That's if the parent and child are telling the truth, I suggest you read Blackburnreaders blog then comment!!! Lancs - pensioner

9:27am Fri 7 Feb 14

Frisson says...

noddy57 wrote:
Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,
so you just believe what they have said? The police have said Wilfrids dealt with it at every level staisfactory therefore I cannot see the police OR the school lying about this. That school is by far the best in Blackburn and I am honoured to have gone there, got all my grades, and now in a very well paid job
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,[/p][/quote]so you just believe what they have said? The police have said Wilfrids dealt with it at every level staisfactory therefore I cannot see the police OR the school lying about this. That school is by far the best in Blackburn and I am honoured to have gone there, got all my grades, and now in a very well paid job Frisson

9:33am Fri 7 Feb 14

TONY WALES says...

You don't think this is a compo job do you?
The two sides do not have a matching story, somebody is telling porkies?
You don't think this is a compo job do you? The two sides do not have a matching story, somebody is telling porkies? TONY WALES

9:39am Fri 7 Feb 14

GracesDad says...

The parents took him to A&E twice because he was being sick....what kind of parenting is that?!? It's no wonder the NHS is creaking under the strain when there are idiots like this guy!!!
The parents took him to A&E twice because he was being sick....what kind of parenting is that?!? It's no wonder the NHS is creaking under the strain when there are idiots like this guy!!! GracesDad

9:55am Fri 7 Feb 14

woolywords says...

Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification.
You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife?
That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did?
I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.
Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification. You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife? That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did? I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here. woolywords

10:42am Fri 7 Feb 14

ossym says...

Yes well said wooly, even if the father is the same guy, some people here are determined to put this guy down and ruin any chance at all of putting his life together (if it IS the same bloke).
Blackburnreader seems remarkably well informed so quickly after the story was published (30mins!).
It coudnt be that BR has extra knowledge of this case that he is witholding, (possibly connected with St Wilfs?) covering their **** whilst smearing others?

The lad has done nothing wrong, the father, possibly also completely innocent, or if not has paid his debt and trying to the best foor his son.

Just because evidence for this knife incident has not been found does not mean it did not happen.
Yes well said wooly, even if the father is the same guy, some people here are determined to put this guy down and ruin any chance at all of putting his life together (if it IS the same bloke). Blackburnreader seems remarkably well informed so quickly after the story was published (30mins!). It coudnt be that BR has extra knowledge of this case that he is witholding, (possibly connected with St Wilfs?) covering their **** whilst smearing others? The lad has done nothing wrong, the father, possibly also completely innocent, or if not has paid his debt and trying to the best foor his son. Just because evidence for this knife incident has not been found does not mean it did not happen. ossym

10:45am Fri 7 Feb 14

sen c b l says...

Grow some 84ll5 the pair of yer!
Grow some 84ll5 the pair of yer! sen c b l

11:24am Fri 7 Feb 14

ladysal says...

woolywords wrote:
Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification.
You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife?
That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did?
I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.
Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification. You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife? That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did? I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.[/p][/quote]Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do? ladysal

11:57am Fri 7 Feb 14

Joseph O'M says...

The son didn't commit a crime did he? Jeez, have some heart people....
The son didn't commit a crime did he? Jeez, have some heart people.... Joseph O'M

12:01pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ossym says...

ladysal wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification.
You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife?
That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did?
I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.
Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?
Why was BR so eager to smear this man?

It is an offence just to be in possescion let alone brandish it.

Maybe the most important question should be what are the aggreived supposed do.
[quote][p][bold]ladysal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification. You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife? That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did? I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.[/p][/quote]Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?[/p][/quote]Why was BR so eager to smear this man? It is an offence just to be in possescion let alone brandish it. Maybe the most important question should be what are the aggreived supposed do. ossym

12:02pm Fri 7 Feb 14

mmickk says...

Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.
Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain. mmickk

12:05pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Stone Island: says...

@ The LT: Have you any news about yesterday's serious disorder at Our Lady & St Johns School (Formerly John Rigby) in Blackburn?
@ The LT: Have you any news about yesterday's serious disorder at Our Lady & St Johns School (Formerly John Rigby) in Blackburn? Stone Island:

12:08pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ladysal says...

ossym wrote:
ladysal wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification.
You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife?
That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did?
I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.
Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?
Why was BR so eager to smear this man?

It is an offence just to be in possescion let alone brandish it.

Maybe the most important question should be what are the aggreived supposed do.
As the mother of a child who, thank fully, has never been in this situation, I can categorically confirm that putting her face on the front page of the local paper woudn't be the way to go. Can you imagine what the reaction will be in school? The father has just made his son's life harder for a situation which appears, on the evidence in this paper, to be a case of one person's word against another.
[quote][p][bold]ossym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ladysal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification. You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife? That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did? I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.[/p][/quote]Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?[/p][/quote]Why was BR so eager to smear this man? It is an offence just to be in possescion let alone brandish it. Maybe the most important question should be what are the aggreived supposed do.[/p][/quote]As the mother of a child who, thank fully, has never been in this situation, I can categorically confirm that putting her face on the front page of the local paper woudn't be the way to go. Can you imagine what the reaction will be in school? The father has just made his son's life harder for a situation which appears, on the evidence in this paper, to be a case of one person's word against another. ladysal

12:59pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ossym says...

I dont think compo would ever hope to be an issue here. A knife could be disposed of before the PCs are out the car.

People under stress sometimes make wrong decisions (in hindsight) as they dont know what to do for the best.

Kids today should be very aware of bullying issues and hopefully treat the mindless scum who get off on it as the vile **** that they are.

As for BR I would rate him even lower than that, you are a disgrace!
I dont think compo would ever hope to be an issue here. A knife could be disposed of before the PCs are out the car. People under stress sometimes make wrong decisions (in hindsight) as they dont know what to do for the best. Kids today should be very aware of bullying issues and hopefully treat the mindless scum who get off on it as the vile **** that they are. As for BR I would rate him even lower than that, you are a disgrace! ossym

1:32pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ron1946 says...

GracesDad wrote:
The parents took him to A&E twice because he was being sick....what kind of parenting is that?!? It's no wonder the NHS is creaking under the strain when there are idiots like this guy!!!
wonder how many relatives went with them ?
[quote][p][bold]GracesDad[/bold] wrote: The parents took him to A&E twice because he was being sick....what kind of parenting is that?!? It's no wonder the NHS is creaking under the strain when there are idiots like this guy!!![/p][/quote]wonder how many relatives went with them ? ron1946

1:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

salvadore says...

Frisson wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,
so you just believe what they have said? The police have said Wilfrids dealt with it at every level staisfactory therefore I cannot see the police OR the school lying about this. That school is by far the best in Blackburn and I am honoured to have gone there, got all my grades, and now in a very well paid job
Wow I suggest you look at which is the best school in Blackburn, it's certainly not st.wilfrids.
[quote][p][bold]Frisson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,[/p][/quote]so you just believe what they have said? The police have said Wilfrids dealt with it at every level staisfactory therefore I cannot see the police OR the school lying about this. That school is by far the best in Blackburn and I am honoured to have gone there, got all my grades, and now in a very well paid job[/p][/quote]Wow I suggest you look at which is the best school in Blackburn, it's certainly not st.wilfrids. salvadore

1:43pm Fri 7 Feb 14

salvadore says...

mmickk wrote:
Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.
You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.[/p][/quote]You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you. salvadore

2:56pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ladysal says...

salvadore wrote:
mmickk wrote:
Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.
You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.
Do you know the family? Have information that the rest of us don't? Because it is not obvious that the school hasn't done anything about it; in fact the school states the opposite, but won't tell the LT what they have done.
As I state further up, even if my daughter had experienced bullying and I felt it hadn't been resolved properly, I would not go to the LT (or indeed any paper). Becuase that would do nothing to help my daughter and may make thigs worse. An opinion on why someone has done something is just that: an opinion. You don't have to agree with him. You shouoldn't however call him names because you don't agree with him. Your response says far more about you than it does about mmickk
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.[/p][/quote]You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.[/p][/quote]Do you know the family? Have information that the rest of us don't? Because it is not obvious that the school hasn't done anything about it; in fact the school states the opposite, but won't tell the LT what they have done. As I state further up, even if my daughter had experienced bullying and I felt it hadn't been resolved properly, I would not go to the LT (or indeed any paper). Becuase that would do nothing to help my daughter and may make thigs worse. An opinion on why someone has done something is just that: an opinion. You don't have to agree with him. You shouoldn't however call him names because you don't agree with him. Your response says far more about you than it does about mmickk ladysal

4:46pm Fri 7 Feb 14

ossym says...

ladysal wrote:
salvadore wrote:
mmickk wrote:
Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.
You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.
Do you know the family? Have information that the rest of us don't? Because it is not obvious that the school hasn't done anything about it; in fact the school states the opposite, but won't tell the LT what they have done.
As I state further up, even if my daughter had experienced bullying and I felt it hadn't been resolved properly, I would not go to the LT (or indeed any paper). Becuase that would do nothing to help my daughter and may make thigs worse. An opinion on why someone has done something is just that: an opinion. You don't have to agree with him. You shouoldn't however call him names because you don't agree with him. Your response says far more about you than it does about mmickk
OK what would you have done about it?

I dont think their is ever an easy answer to the cowardly mindless scum bags who choose to gang up on somebody.

This could easily ruin this young mans chances of a decent education (for what its worth). If BR had his way it would ruin more than that.

And I dont think anyone would leave school like this lightly.

And as far the parents knew he may have seriously ill when they took him to A+E, one thing for sure prolonged bullying can be very detrimental to the health.

Maybe the school doesnt really want to find knives etc, would rather deter than have bad publicity, it is easy to give lipservice to anti bullying procedures and trot out the well worn phrases.

One thing for sure BR seemed very keen to smear the father to try and discredit his story.

It is obvious there is no logic in BRs "revalation"
Does he have an axe to grind or is protecting the ploice or school? Please let us know why you chose to "educate" us on this.

Please remember there are two lives at stake here, I am amazed at some of reactions on here in the light of previous bullying cases that have ended in tragedy.

PS I would like to wish Mr Hussain and his son and his all the best for the future, dont listen to the ignorant and malicious people, there are many more good people i.e. the silent majority.
[quote][p][bold]ladysal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.[/p][/quote]You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.[/p][/quote]Do you know the family? Have information that the rest of us don't? Because it is not obvious that the school hasn't done anything about it; in fact the school states the opposite, but won't tell the LT what they have done. As I state further up, even if my daughter had experienced bullying and I felt it hadn't been resolved properly, I would not go to the LT (or indeed any paper). Becuase that would do nothing to help my daughter and may make thigs worse. An opinion on why someone has done something is just that: an opinion. You don't have to agree with him. You shouoldn't however call him names because you don't agree with him. Your response says far more about you than it does about mmickk[/p][/quote]OK what would you have done about it? I dont think their is ever an easy answer to the cowardly mindless scum bags who choose to gang up on somebody. This could easily ruin this young mans chances of a decent education (for what its worth). If BR had his way it would ruin more than that. And I dont think anyone would leave school like this lightly. And as far the parents knew he may have seriously ill when they took him to A+E, one thing for sure prolonged bullying can be very detrimental to the health. Maybe the school doesnt really want to find knives etc, would rather deter than have bad publicity, it is easy to give lipservice to anti bullying procedures and trot out the well worn phrases. One thing for sure BR seemed very keen to smear the father to try and discredit his story. It is obvious there is no logic in BRs "revalation" Does he have an axe to grind or is protecting the ploice or school? Please let us know why you chose to "educate" us on this. Please remember there are two lives at stake here, I am amazed at some of reactions on here in the light of previous bullying cases that have ended in tragedy. PS I would like to wish Mr Hussain and his son and his all the best for the future, dont listen to the ignorant and malicious people, there are many more good people i.e. the silent majority. ossym

6:51pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Trolls are lowlifes says...

salvadore wrote:
Frisson wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,
so you just believe what they have said? The police have said Wilfrids dealt with it at every level staisfactory therefore I cannot see the police OR the school lying about this. That school is by far the best in Blackburn and I am honoured to have gone there, got all my grades, and now in a very well paid job
Wow I suggest you look at which is the best school in Blackburn, it's certainly not st.wilfrids.
In my eyes it's the best in Blackburn.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frisson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,[/p][/quote]so you just believe what they have said? The police have said Wilfrids dealt with it at every level staisfactory therefore I cannot see the police OR the school lying about this. That school is by far the best in Blackburn and I am honoured to have gone there, got all my grades, and now in a very well paid job[/p][/quote]Wow I suggest you look at which is the best school in Blackburn, it's certainly not st.wilfrids.[/p][/quote]In my eyes it's the best in Blackburn. Trolls are lowlifes

6:58pm Fri 7 Feb 14

woolywords says...

I have this tendency to accept what Zidane states. Simply because there is no explicit and unequivocal qualification from the school, that they take this matter with a more than fair degree of concern, given past circumstances.
Zidane makes a valid point in his comment and, as such, I personally feel that the school governors should be made aware of this, to it's fullest extent, at the earliest possible opportunity.
As a former school governor, I would have some serious concerns that, a parent of child at our school, felt so miffed as to even seek the attention of a local newspaper, that brings nothing but the shower of contempt, expressed here and by that, the school itself, into disrepute.
A full and formal investigation, with the antecedents of all concerned, being a relevant part of that inquiry.
I would, were it me, conduct a question and answer session, of all in the same age group of both children, to ascertain the truth of this matter..
'what can you tell us, incomplete confidence, about the alleged attacker, and the victim?', should be a question posed.
No matter what the law of the land states, it is possible to discern a truth from children in the same age range, and has, in my past experience, been able to nip this kind of thing, in the bud.
The sheer tenacity of a bully in any school, by it's very boastful arrogance, will be their downfall, and rightly so.

If you are a child of that school, reading this, knowing something that you are just keeping to yourself, for fear of anything, you should make yourself known, to either a teacher, the headmaster or any school governor, to give evidence as to the character of either of them.
The very good name of your school is in question here.
Bullying is a crime, don't let them get away with it!
Naming them, makes you a good citizen, not a snitch, as they would have you believe.
I have this tendency to accept what Zidane states. Simply because there is no explicit and unequivocal qualification from the school, that they take this matter with a more than fair degree of concern, given past circumstances. Zidane makes a valid point in his comment and, as such, I personally feel that the school governors should be made aware of this, to it's fullest extent, at the earliest possible opportunity. As a former school governor, I would have some serious concerns that, a parent of child at our school, felt so miffed as to even seek the attention of a local newspaper, that brings nothing but the shower of contempt, expressed here and by that, the school itself, into disrepute. A full and formal investigation, with the antecedents of all concerned, being a relevant part of that inquiry. I would, were it me, conduct a question and answer session, of all in the same age group of both children, to ascertain the truth of this matter.. 'what can you tell us, incomplete confidence, about the alleged attacker, and the victim?', should be a question posed. No matter what the law of the land states, it is possible to discern a truth from children in the same age range, and has, in my past experience, been able to nip this kind of thing, in the bud. The sheer tenacity of a bully in any school, by it's very boastful arrogance, will be their downfall, and rightly so. If you are a child of that school, reading this, knowing something that you are just keeping to yourself, for fear of anything, you should make yourself known, to either a teacher, the headmaster or any school governor, to give evidence as to the character of either of them. The very good name of your school is in question here. Bullying is a crime, don't let them get away with it! Naming them, makes you a good citizen, not a snitch, as they would have you believe. woolywords

7:13pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

file-edit-view wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,
That's if the parent and child are telling the truth, I suggest you read Blackburnreaders blog then comment!!!
this is not the same tahir hussain ! the one from the article regarding the 6k theft is still in prison,!! i suggest you do your research more carefully before defaming an innocent person who is trying to protect his son !!
Now whose telling porkys? It appears he was the same person, don't worry you don't have to apologise I was only making a point that you should not believe all we hear. My I also make the point that bullying is not except able in any form of life, school, work, home, but I was trying to get to the truth in this particular case.
[quote][p][bold]file-edit-view[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: Everyone has the right to free education and protection,and the school have let the boy and his parents down ,[/p][/quote]That's if the parent and child are telling the truth, I suggest you read Blackburnreaders blog then comment!!![/p][/quote]this is not the same tahir hussain ! the one from the article regarding the 6k theft is still in prison,!! i suggest you do your research more carefully before defaming an innocent person who is trying to protect his son !![/p][/quote]Now whose telling porkys? It appears he was the same person, don't worry you don't have to apologise I was only making a point that you should not believe all we hear. My I also make the point that bullying is not except able in any form of life, school, work, home, but I was trying to get to the truth in this particular case. Lancs - pensioner

8:44pm Fri 7 Feb 14

moh says...

ossym wrote:
ladysal wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification.
You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife?
That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did?
I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.
Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?
Why was BR so eager to smear this man?

It is an offence just to be in possescion let alone brandish it.

Maybe the most important question should be what are the aggreived supposed do.
i know someone committing suicide because of bullying and the person could not tell anyone about it. Is BR linked to the school? If the victims father has offended why link the victims alleged experience to his fathers offending?
[quote][p][bold]ossym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ladysal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Forgive me, I'm getting a little confused here and need some clarification. You are alleging that the father in this article, is the same one who was sentenced to prison for 8 months in December 2010, for a crime committed in August of that same year and because of that crime, I cannot trust the veracity of the son, when he makes allegations of being bullied along with being threaten with a knife? That's a bit of a biblical thing to do isn't it(Exodus 34:6), where the child is metaphorically branded (we used to literally brand thieves in this country) because of some wrong-doing his father did? I do, however, note that the police seem to be a little derelict in their duty here, by not investigating a little more thoroughly than is suggested here.[/p][/quote]Agreed, the history of the father has nothing to do with the son's situation and experience. However, how can you come to the conclusion that the police haven't investigated thoroughly enough? The school and the police say that they have done so and are satisfied that the matter has been dealt with. The only person who claims that the situation is different is the father. Isn't it telling that even the father doesn't say the son was actually threatened with the knife, just that it was shown to him. Only the LT states that he was threatened. If the school / police have no evidence of the presence of this knife in school, then what are they supposed to do?[/p][/quote]Why was BR so eager to smear this man? It is an offence just to be in possescion let alone brandish it. Maybe the most important question should be what are the aggreived supposed do.[/p][/quote]i know someone committing suicide because of bullying and the person could not tell anyone about it. Is BR linked to the school? If the victims father has offended why link the victims alleged experience to his fathers offending? moh

1:43am Sat 8 Feb 14

stressed'68 says...

St Wilfs is a HUGELY overrated school I'm afraid! I speak as the parent of a child who had a few issues with older kids picking on him in his earlier days there.the culprit was suspended for 2 days! There was also a case of suicide at the school a couple of years ago.....even though it was reported as not being linked to bullying,that totally contradicted fellow pupils accounts who also provided a name! I agree that putting his picture in the paper maybe wasn't a smart move,but,if the father feels he isn't being heard/believed,maybe he felt it necessary to do so.Above all,I hope this young man can put this incident behind him and enjoy his remaining school career.
St Wilfs is a HUGELY overrated school I'm afraid! I speak as the parent of a child who had a few issues with older kids picking on him in his earlier days there.the culprit was suspended for 2 days! There was also a case of suicide at the school a couple of years ago.....even though it was reported as not being linked to bullying,that totally contradicted fellow pupils accounts who also provided a name! I agree that putting his picture in the paper maybe wasn't a smart move,but,if the father feels he isn't being heard/believed,maybe he felt it necessary to do so.Above all,I hope this young man can put this incident behind him and enjoy his remaining school career. stressed'68

3:02pm Sat 8 Feb 14

alfa111 says...

mmickk wrote:
Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.
Tarnishing the school seems to be the main motive in going to the LT, i think,not that this young man had not been bullied, its totally wrong, more than likley he had, but this kind of thing happens constantly at all schools and is normally sorted out at the school level, not by publicizing it in the L/T.
[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.[/p][/quote]Tarnishing the school seems to be the main motive in going to the LT, i think,not that this young man had not been bullied, its totally wrong, more than likley he had, but this kind of thing happens constantly at all schools and is normally sorted out at the school level, not by publicizing it in the L/T. alfa111

7:16pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Natasha Rashid says...

So I have read all the previous comments and some people really have suprised me, how twisted your minds are (the people who are speeking against the farther) i know this family and they would not come on to a paper for compansation! as sad as it is fa you people its pointless you guys having any education beacause you still act like un educated illitrate ****!
Everyone makes mistakes, and you either learn from them or you don't.. which person in this country apart from a small group is a law abbiding citizen?? thats right no one is.. wether its a small crime or big, people commit crimes on a dailyy basis and yess it is rong, but its happning and to judge their past as if yur soo innocent is worse, everyone is entitled to a second chance. people change! to judge his farther? and predict the son is the same?? thats a low blow you sad sad people, seriously how stupid could you be, clearly if the farther was a bad person STILL, wouldn't he teach them bullies a lesson? take matters into his own hands and give them a taste of their own medicine?? clearly he has changed if hes left it to schools/POLICE! think about it idiots.
thing is about majority people here is that you fail to realise why criminals stay criminals.. if you guys were to give them a chance maybe they wouldnt keep breaking the law. The people who need help dont get help but the ones who dont need it seem to be getting it any way.. what is that all about, i dunt want to write too much but the bottem line is no can judge! if i was to pull out any of your history or your parents/relatives history dont think it would be clean slate either.. so next time you think about judging.. think twice you ill minded illtrate ****! as for the farther much respect to you Mr.Hussain for realising and being able to do something about the bullying before it was too late.. as for st.willfreds shame on you! and for the people defending them open up your eyes the sun dunt shine out of their **** anymore (Y)
For the people who are thinking right and understnd mr.hussain's complaint.. good on you.. proved your education aint a waste unlike others :)
So I have read all the previous comments and some people really have suprised me, how twisted your minds are (the people who are speeking against the farther) i know this family and they would not come on to a paper for compansation! as sad as it is fa you people its pointless you guys having any education beacause you still act like un educated illitrate ****! Everyone makes mistakes, and you either learn from them or you don't.. which person in this country apart from a small group is a law abbiding citizen?? thats right no one is.. wether its a small crime or big, people commit crimes on a dailyy basis and yess it is rong, but its happning and to judge their past as if yur soo innocent is worse, everyone is entitled to a second chance. people change! to judge his farther? and predict the son is the same?? thats a low blow you sad sad people, seriously how stupid could you be, clearly if the farther was a bad person STILL, wouldn't he teach them bullies a lesson? take matters into his own hands and give them a taste of their own medicine?? clearly he has changed if hes left it to schools/POLICE! think about it idiots. thing is about majority people here is that you fail to realise why criminals stay criminals.. if you guys were to give them a chance maybe they wouldnt keep breaking the law. The people who need help dont get help but the ones who dont need it seem to be getting it any way.. what is that all about, i dunt want to write too much but the bottem line is no can judge! if i was to pull out any of your history or your parents/relatives history dont think it would be clean slate either.. so next time you think about judging.. think twice you ill minded illtrate ****! as for the farther much respect to you Mr.Hussain for realising and being able to do something about the bullying before it was too late.. as for st.willfreds shame on you! and for the people defending them open up your eyes the sun dunt shine out of their **** anymore (Y) For the people who are thinking right and understnd mr.hussain's complaint.. good on you.. proved your education aint a waste unlike others :) Natasha Rashid

9:36pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Annoying Person:) says...

Mothernature wrote:
Natasha Rashid wrote:
So I have read all the previous comments and some people really have suprised me, how twisted your minds are (the people who are speeking against the farther) i know this family and they would not come on to a paper for compansation! as sad as it is fa you people its pointless you guys having any education beacause you still act like un educated illitrate ****! Everyone makes mistakes, and you either learn from them or you don't.. which person in this country apart from a small group is a law abbiding citizen?? thats right no one is.. wether its a small crime or big, people commit crimes on a dailyy basis and yess it is rong, but its happning and to judge their past as if yur soo innocent is worse, everyone is entitled to a second chance. people change! to judge his farther? and predict the son is the same?? thats a low blow you sad sad people, seriously how stupid could you be, clearly if the farther was a bad person STILL, wouldn't he teach them bullies a lesson? take matters into his own hands and give them a taste of their own medicine?? clearly he has changed if hes left it to schools/POLICE! think about it idiots. thing is about majority people here is that you fail to realise why criminals stay criminals.. if you guys were to give them a chance maybe they wouldnt keep breaking the law. The people who need help dont get help but the ones who dont need it seem to be getting it any way.. what is that all about, i dunt want to write too much but the bottem line is no can judge! if i was to pull out any of your history or your parents/relatives history dont think it would be clean slate either.. so next time you think about judging.. think twice you ill minded illtrate ****! as for the farther much respect to you Mr.Hussain for realising and being able to do something about the bullying before it was too late.. as for st.willfreds shame on you! and for the people defending them open up your eyes the sun dunt shine out of their **** anymore (Y) For the people who are thinking right and understnd mr.hussain's complaint.. good on you.. proved your education aint a waste unlike others :)
Judging by your spelling mistakes & grammatical errors, it would appear your education was a total waste of time.
Commenting just to point out spelling mistakes? You people have too much time on your hands. Get a life.
[quote][p][bold]Mothernature[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Natasha Rashid[/bold] wrote: So I have read all the previous comments and some people really have suprised me, how twisted your minds are (the people who are speeking against the farther) i know this family and they would not come on to a paper for compansation! as sad as it is fa you people its pointless you guys having any education beacause you still act like un educated illitrate ****! Everyone makes mistakes, and you either learn from them or you don't.. which person in this country apart from a small group is a law abbiding citizen?? thats right no one is.. wether its a small crime or big, people commit crimes on a dailyy basis and yess it is rong, but its happning and to judge their past as if yur soo innocent is worse, everyone is entitled to a second chance. people change! to judge his farther? and predict the son is the same?? thats a low blow you sad sad people, seriously how stupid could you be, clearly if the farther was a bad person STILL, wouldn't he teach them bullies a lesson? take matters into his own hands and give them a taste of their own medicine?? clearly he has changed if hes left it to schools/POLICE! think about it idiots. thing is about majority people here is that you fail to realise why criminals stay criminals.. if you guys were to give them a chance maybe they wouldnt keep breaking the law. The people who need help dont get help but the ones who dont need it seem to be getting it any way.. what is that all about, i dunt want to write too much but the bottem line is no can judge! if i was to pull out any of your history or your parents/relatives history dont think it would be clean slate either.. so next time you think about judging.. think twice you ill minded illtrate ****! as for the farther much respect to you Mr.Hussain for realising and being able to do something about the bullying before it was too late.. as for st.willfreds shame on you! and for the people defending them open up your eyes the sun dunt shine out of their **** anymore (Y) For the people who are thinking right and understnd mr.hussain's complaint.. good on you.. proved your education aint a waste unlike others :)[/p][/quote]Judging by your spelling mistakes & grammatical errors, it would appear your education was a total waste of time.[/p][/quote]Commenting just to point out spelling mistakes? You people have too much time on your hands. Get a life. Annoying Person:)

9:54pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Annoying Person:) says...

And another thing, you don't know the family, how can you sit and judge people trying to do the best for their son? It is clearly obvious nobody would believe, obviously he wanted to be heard. What parent wouldn't? As far as the father's HISTORY is concerned, you don't a thing about what what he or his family may have been going through. Take hard long look in the mirror before you start judging others.
And another thing, you don't know the family, how can you sit and judge people trying to do the best for their son? It is clearly obvious nobody would believe, obviously he wanted to be heard. What parent wouldn't? As far as the father's HISTORY is concerned, you don't a thing about what what he or his family may have been going through. Take hard long look in the mirror before you start judging others. Annoying Person:)

10:08pm Sat 8 Feb 14

TH0786 says...

I just want to set the record straight. First of all, our main concern was and is the well being of our son. Any decent parent will do anything and everything to ensure that their children are safe. After several meetings with the staff at st wilfrids, who by the way seemed to be in complete denial about the fact that they do have a bullying problem and nobody seemed to know exactly how to deal with this issue.
As far as compensation is concerned, no amount of money can compensate for the distress cause to my whole family. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR STINKING MONEY.

Lastly,
Nobody has the right to judge me, except the Lord Almighty.
I just want to set the record straight. First of all, our main concern was and is the well being of our son. Any decent parent will do anything and everything to ensure that their children are safe. After several meetings with the staff at st wilfrids, who by the way seemed to be in complete denial about the fact that they do have a bullying problem and nobody seemed to know exactly how to deal with this issue. As far as compensation is concerned, no amount of money can compensate for the distress cause to my whole family. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR STINKING MONEY. Lastly, Nobody has the right to judge me, except the Lord Almighty. TH0786

12:51am Sun 9 Feb 14

NelsonAsianButProudBritish says...

I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.
I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair. NelsonAsianButProudBritish

9:43am Sun 9 Feb 14

xsblue says...

NelsonAsianButProudB
ritish
wrote:
I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.
rochdale
[quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.[/p][/quote]rochdale xsblue

2:28pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Annoying Person:) says...

NelsonAsianButProudB
ritish
wrote:
I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.
All we need is a another **** coconut like you stupid muppet shut your mouth
[quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.[/p][/quote]All we need is a another **** coconut like you stupid muppet shut your mouth Annoying Person:)

2:41pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

NelsonAsianButProudB
ritish
wrote:
I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.
Hi NABPB
How refreshing your post is and I'll let you into a little secret, some of us whites are dodgy and we also do dodgy things, your comments on the Clergy is unfortunately true but heh this is the world we live in. If everyone was open and honest I'm sure this world would be a better place. Having read most of the posts on here not sure who is to blame (if blame is the right word) but bullying is a problem at schools and in the work place and we should all try to irradiate it, have a nice day.
[quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.[/p][/quote]Hi NABPB How refreshing your post is and I'll let you into a little secret, some of us whites are dodgy and we also do dodgy things, your comments on the Clergy is unfortunately true but heh this is the world we live in. If everyone was open and honest I'm sure this world would be a better place. Having read most of the posts on here not sure who is to blame (if blame is the right word) but bullying is a problem at schools and in the work place and we should all try to irradiate it, have a nice day. Lancs - pensioner

3:09pm Sun 9 Feb 14

NelsonAsianButProudBritish says...

Annoying Person:) wrote:
NelsonAsianButProudB

ritish
wrote:
I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.
All we need is a another **** coconut like you stupid muppet shut your mouth
heyy i'm not a coconut okay. I just enjpy multicultural relationships in the community thats all. I'm surprised they let you access the internet in prison Mr Robinson (yes Tommy i know its you i'm not stupid)
[quote][p][bold]Annoying Person:)[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NelsonAsianButProudB ritish[/bold] wrote: I am not sure why race is being brought into this, but, as a proud british modern asian, I have to say i love it!! Yes, us asians are dodgy, we do dodgy things, this chap would rob his own grandmother and yes he's going to try a compensation claim against the school for stress etc. How's that for a bit of refreshing honesty? Now all you non asians on here please admit that Paedophilia was and is rampant throughout the entire clergy and entertainment world please its only fair.[/p][/quote]All we need is a another **** coconut like you stupid muppet shut your mouth[/p][/quote]heyy i'm not a coconut okay. I just enjpy multicultural relationships in the community thats all. I'm surprised they let you access the internet in prison Mr Robinson (yes Tommy i know its you i'm not stupid) NelsonAsianButProudBritish

9:28pm Sun 9 Feb 14

l2overs says...

man up
man up l2overs

2:38pm Mon 10 Feb 14

ladysal says...

ossym wrote:
ladysal wrote:
salvadore wrote:
mmickk wrote:
Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.
You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.
Do you know the family? Have information that the rest of us don't? Because it is not obvious that the school hasn't done anything about it; in fact the school states the opposite, but won't tell the LT what they have done.
As I state further up, even if my daughter had experienced bullying and I felt it hadn't been resolved properly, I would not go to the LT (or indeed any paper). Becuase that would do nothing to help my daughter and may make thigs worse. An opinion on why someone has done something is just that: an opinion. You don't have to agree with him. You shouoldn't however call him names because you don't agree with him. Your response says far more about you than it does about mmickk
OK what would you have done about it?

I dont think their is ever an easy answer to the cowardly mindless scum bags who choose to gang up on somebody.

This could easily ruin this young mans chances of a decent education (for what its worth). If BR had his way it would ruin more than that.

And I dont think anyone would leave school like this lightly.

And as far the parents knew he may have seriously ill when they took him to A+E, one thing for sure prolonged bullying can be very detrimental to the health.

Maybe the school doesnt really want to find knives etc, would rather deter than have bad publicity, it is easy to give lipservice to anti bullying procedures and trot out the well worn phrases.

One thing for sure BR seemed very keen to smear the father to try and discredit his story.

It is obvious there is no logic in BRs "revalation"
Does he have an axe to grind or is protecting the ploice or school? Please let us know why you chose to "educate" us on this.

Please remember there are two lives at stake here, I am amazed at some of reactions on here in the light of previous bullying cases that have ended in tragedy.

PS I would like to wish Mr Hussain and his son and his all the best for the future, dont listen to the ignorant and malicious people, there are many more good people i.e. the silent majority.
Sorry Ossym, I'm confused. I'm trying to work out what your comments have to do with anything I wrote.
The only one which I feel I can comment on is the one about what I would have done. And the simple answer is, I don't know - I haven't had ot deal with it. I do know I wouldn't have gone to the papers, because I did that many years ago, with regard to something else, and all I was left with was the feelingh that it was an embarrassing waste of time.

Woolywords - I can assure you that the Governing Body will be well aware of this incident. In much more detail than the LT has chosen to share with us. And no, I am not on the Governing body of this school.
[quote][p][bold]ossym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ladysal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote: Where there's blame there's a claim springs to mind hence the two hospital visits just for evidence. And going to the papers just highlights the motive behind this. No parent would put there child's face in the paper if they were bullied not a chance. You would put your child's feelings first if you cannot smell a rat god help you what a disgrace. St Wilfred's is one of the best schools in Lancashire its a disgrace these people should tarnish the schools good name just for personal gain.[/p][/quote]You're a disgrace for making out the family is trying to make some sort of money out if it. It's BULLYING and obviously the school has done nothing to deal with it properly. Bullies are cowards like you who pick on people because they don't look like you.[/p][/quote]Do you know the family? Have information that the rest of us don't? Because it is not obvious that the school hasn't done anything about it; in fact the school states the opposite, but won't tell the LT what they have done. As I state further up, even if my daughter had experienced bullying and I felt it hadn't been resolved properly, I would not go to the LT (or indeed any paper). Becuase that would do nothing to help my daughter and may make thigs worse. An opinion on why someone has done something is just that: an opinion. You don't have to agree with him. You shouoldn't however call him names because you don't agree with him. Your response says far more about you than it does about mmickk[/p][/quote]OK what would you have done about it? I dont think their is ever an easy answer to the cowardly mindless scum bags who choose to gang up on somebody. This could easily ruin this young mans chances of a decent education (for what its worth). If BR had his way it would ruin more than that. And I dont think anyone would leave school like this lightly. And as far the parents knew he may have seriously ill when they took him to A+E, one thing for sure prolonged bullying can be very detrimental to the health. Maybe the school doesnt really want to find knives etc, would rather deter than have bad publicity, it is easy to give lipservice to anti bullying procedures and trot out the well worn phrases. One thing for sure BR seemed very keen to smear the father to try and discredit his story. It is obvious there is no logic in BRs "revalation" Does he have an axe to grind or is protecting the ploice or school? Please let us know why you chose to "educate" us on this. Please remember there are two lives at stake here, I am amazed at some of reactions on here in the light of previous bullying cases that have ended in tragedy. PS I would like to wish Mr Hussain and his son and his all the best for the future, dont listen to the ignorant and malicious people, there are many more good people i.e. the silent majority.[/p][/quote]Sorry Ossym, I'm confused. I'm trying to work out what your comments have to do with anything I wrote. The only one which I feel I can comment on is the one about what I would have done. And the simple answer is, I don't know - I haven't had ot deal with it. I do know I wouldn't have gone to the papers, because I did that many years ago, with regard to something else, and all I was left with was the feelingh that it was an embarrassing waste of time. Woolywords - I can assure you that the Governing Body will be well aware of this incident. In much more detail than the LT has chosen to share with us. And no, I am not on the Governing body of this school. ladysal

4:53pm Fri 14 Feb 14

rhodie110961 says...

Well the police made short shrift to get out of doing any work. They are a useless bunch, too busy trying to massage crime figures than do their jobs properly. I would wager that had they actually walked in and saw the lad pinned against the wall with a knife at his throat they would have called it boyhood jinks and let the perpetrators off anyway.
Well the police made short shrift to get out of doing any work. They are a useless bunch, too busy trying to massage crime figures than do their jobs properly. I would wager that had they actually walked in and saw the lad pinned against the wall with a knife at his throat they would have called it boyhood jinks and let the perpetrators off anyway. rhodie110961

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