183 kids under 10 linked to crimes in Lancashire

183 kids under 10 linked to crimes in Lancashire

183 kids under 10 linked to crimes in Lancashire

First published in News Blackburn Citizen: Photograph of the Author by , Hyndburn reporter

CHILDREN under the age of 10 were suspected of a catalogue of serious crimes, including rape, arson, and sexual assault last year, it can be revealed.

More than 180 crimes in Lancashire were thought to have been committed by young children under the age of criminal responsiblity, which is 10.

Because of their age, none of the children were arrested or charged, and the crimes remain ‘undetected’.

They included two rapes and five sexual assaults of girls under the age of 13, three arsons, two counts of possessing knives, and one of racially or religiously aggravated assault.

Numerous crimes more commonly associated with children, such as criminal damage, shoplifting, and assault without injury were also recorded, data released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed.

Children under the age of 10 being suspected of crimes has rocketed from 39 in 2008/09 to 183 in 2012/13, leading to calls for a ‘far more robust approach’ towards offenders.

It was not clear whether the rise was reflected nationally because information is not collected by the Home Office.

Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Graham Jones said: “A bigger stick needs to be taken to troubled families who lead disfunctional lives, particularly those who seem to think getting caught is an occupational hazard.

“There’s a persistent underclass that we need to get to grips with, and that people are frightened of talking about, but whose behaviour needs to be challenged.

“We need to take a far more robust approach towards them.

“These are children under the age of 10; it’s their parents who bear the full responsibility.”

Mr Jones added the figures suggest a government programme aimed at reducing youth crime and anti-social behaviour was failing.

He said: “These figures show that the government’s Trouble Families programme has got a long way to go. These figures would suggest it’s a failing policy.”

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1:20pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Casper's mum says...

The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong. Casper's mum
  • Score: 18

1:49pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
[quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -18

2:30pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Casper's mum says...

And you think we should just leave them to be to continue a life of crime?

No they should not be locked up, but they need to be taught this is wrong and punished. The blame should not be put solely on th eparents.

Do I have kids? Look at my user name...
And you think we should just leave them to be to continue a life of crime? No they should not be locked up, but they need to be taught this is wrong and punished. The blame should not be put solely on th eparents. Do I have kids? Look at my user name... Casper's mum
  • Score: 21

2:34pm Tue 28 Jan 14

vicn1956 says...

Their parents should be charged with neglect or child abuse. Then their lifestyle affected.
Their parents should be charged with neglect or child abuse. Then their lifestyle affected. vicn1956
  • Score: 18

3:13pm Tue 28 Jan 14

bow1974 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.[/p][/quote]if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child. bow1974
  • Score: 20

4:07pm Tue 28 Jan 14

AnthonyUK says...

If my kids had broken the law they would be grounded for a long time with NO pocketmoney treats etc and I don't care about the NSPCC saying these kids have rights that's immaterial if they have caused problems for others, and I would punish them as I see fit NOT the NSPCC and braindead dogooders way!
If my kids had broken the law they would be grounded for a long time with NO pocketmoney treats etc and I don't care about the NSPCC saying these kids have rights that's immaterial if they have caused problems for others, and I would punish them as I see fit NOT the NSPCC and braindead dogooders way! AnthonyUK
  • Score: 19

4:59pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.
So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult??

What's wrong with you?
[quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.[/p][/quote]if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.[/p][/quote]So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult?? What's wrong with you? Steven Seagull
  • Score: -7

5:14pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

Casper's mum wrote:
And you think we should just leave them to be to continue a life of crime?

No they should not be locked up, but they need to be taught this is wrong and punished. The blame should not be put solely on th eparents.

Do I have kids? Look at my user name...
AND?

Look at my user name have I got feathers and wings?

No they shouldn't be allowed to Continue a "life of crime", clearly. Did I ever suggest that they should?

There has to be a line where children are held responsible for their actions in relation to criminality. Currently it's the age of ten. Is that appropriate in today's society? Possibly not. There are 9 and 8 year old out there who are awful individuals and know full well what they are doing, both the child and parents should be looked at in.cases where under 10's commit crime to determine if action should be taken. That would be a common sense approach.
But to suggest a 5 year old should be held accountable and punishable in the same way as an adult! Really???? You need to have a word with yourself love.

I pitty your poor kids for the level of discipline they probably face in your house. If you catch your 5 year old with his hand in the biscuit tin maybe you can call the Police, give a statement and take him to court for theft?
[quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: And you think we should just leave them to be to continue a life of crime? No they should not be locked up, but they need to be taught this is wrong and punished. The blame should not be put solely on th eparents. Do I have kids? Look at my user name...[/p][/quote]AND? Look at my user name have I got feathers and wings? No they shouldn't be allowed to Continue a "life of crime", clearly. Did I ever suggest that they should? There has to be a line where children are held responsible for their actions in relation to criminality. Currently it's the age of ten. Is that appropriate in today's society? Possibly not. There are 9 and 8 year old out there who are awful individuals and know full well what they are doing, both the child and parents should be looked at in.cases where under 10's commit crime to determine if action should be taken. That would be a common sense approach. But to suggest a 5 year old should be held accountable and punishable in the same way as an adult! Really???? You need to have a word with yourself love. I pitty your poor kids for the level of discipline they probably face in your house. If you catch your 5 year old with his hand in the biscuit tin maybe you can call the Police, give a statement and take him to court for theft? Steven Seagull
  • Score: -5

5:26pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.
And furthermore, to be guilty of the majority of criminal offences one has to have the requisite mens rea (intent).

Now you tell me if a 5 year old is mentally mature enough and therefore capable of forming such intent?
[quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.[/p][/quote]if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.[/p][/quote]And furthermore, to be guilty of the majority of criminal offences one has to have the requisite mens rea (intent). Now you tell me if a 5 year old is mentally mature enough and therefore capable of forming such intent? Steven Seagull
  • Score: -6

10:37pm Tue 28 Jan 14

bow1974 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.
So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult??

What's wrong with you?
im not talking about breaking windows im talking about stealing,arson etc
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.[/p][/quote]if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.[/p][/quote]So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult?? What's wrong with you?[/p][/quote]im not talking about breaking windows im talking about stealing,arson etc bow1974
  • Score: 4

11:38pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.
So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult??

What's wrong with you?
im not talking about breaking windows im talking about stealing,arson etc
Refer to my previous post at 5:26pm.
[quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.[/p][/quote]if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.[/p][/quote]So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult?? What's wrong with you?[/p][/quote]im not talking about breaking windows im talking about stealing,arson etc[/p][/quote]Refer to my previous post at 5:26pm. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -1

9:16am Wed 29 Jan 14

bow1974 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
bow1974 wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Casper's mum wrote:
The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.
So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you?

What an absolute tool you are.

Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.
if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.
So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult??

What's wrong with you?
im not talking about breaking windows im talking about stealing,arson etc
Refer to my previous post at 5:26pm.
yeah and read my comment if there old enough etc punish them young teach them rite from wrong that way they may not get in trouble later on in life.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bow1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casper's mum[/bold] wrote: The age of criminal responsibility either needs to be lowered to 5yrs old or scrapped all together. I bet all 183 of these children knew what they were doing was wrong.[/p][/quote]So you would happily have a 5 year old in a cell or a court would you? What an absolute tool you are. Do you have kids? I hope not for their sakes.[/p][/quote]if there old enough to do the crime there old enough to do the time in my book and yes I do have a child.[/p][/quote]So a 5 year old who breaks a window should be punished in the same way as an adult?? What's wrong with you?[/p][/quote]im not talking about breaking windows im talking about stealing,arson etc[/p][/quote]Refer to my previous post at 5:26pm.[/p][/quote]yeah and read my comment if there old enough etc punish them young teach them rite from wrong that way they may not get in trouble later on in life. bow1974
  • Score: 3

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