Foodbanks help East Lancashire people in most serious need

First published in News

FOODBANKS ‘don’t just hand out food to anyone who walks in off the street,’ a manager has explained.

Ros Duerden, project manager of Blackburn Foodbank, said: “One of the biggest issues we face is members of the public having the misconception that we hand out food to anyone who walks in off the street, or that we give free food to people that are well and able to buy food for themselves and that is simply not the case.

“Everyone that receives a food voucher is assessed and that is important. They are assessed by professionals who identify that they are in crisis.”

Foodbanks work on a referral basis. Each Foodbank works with ‘partner agencies’ such as the police, citizen’s advice bureau, care workers, schools and medical professionals who identify people in need, assess them and if necessary, issue them with a voucher for ‘emergency food’, usually enough for a week.

Mal Armstrong is the Gateway Assessor at Blackburn Citizen’s Advice Bureau and is responsible for the centres Food Vouchers. “People don’t just walk in and get one. That’s not how it works at all. Through the gateway assessment we identify people in genuine hardship. Often, they are referred here by case workers that have met them on an unrelated issue, so by the time they get to me they have, really, been interviewed twice.”

The vouchers are numbered and have to be signed by the professional that is referring them so that they cannot be replicated.

Community Solutions, based in Accrington, delivers it’s food parcels across Hyndburn, Pendle, Burnley and Rossendale but shares the same referral system as a Trussell Trust Foodbank.

Mark Hirst at Community Solutions Foodbank said: “There’s a thought that people are just getting a free meal, whether they need it or not but we have a very strict and stringent referral system.”

“People are not happy about needing to receive free food. What we hear everyday is people saying ‘I’m so embarrassed. I’ve never needed to accept charity before.’ “In a way, I’m trying to put myself out of business. I want people to be in a position where they don’t need to rely on Foodbanks any The Trussell Trust, which runs Blackburn Foodbank launches three new foodbanks in the UK every week and they have provided almost 350,000 people with emergency food.

There are already 350 Trussell Trust Foodbanks in the UK and there are scores of other charities that provide food for the needy.

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2:51pm Sat 6 Jul 13

useyourhead says...

I purchased some items in tesco for their collections, who knows, might need it myself one day and it cost very little too, I took advantage of some multibuys and bogoffs and kept half for me and half for them.
I purchased some items in tesco for their collections, who knows, might need it myself one day and it cost very little too, I took advantage of some multibuys and bogoffs and kept half for me and half for them. useyourhead
  • Score: 5

5:13pm Sat 6 Jul 13

frank says...

it's good someone cares.
unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.
it's good someone cares. unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom. frank
  • Score: 4

7:31pm Sat 6 Jul 13

PAULDOR says...

frank wrote:
it's good someone cares.
unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.
Quite right wonder how much tony blair is chucking in the pot with all the millions he has.
[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: it's good someone cares. unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.[/p][/quote]Quite right wonder how much tony blair is chucking in the pot with all the millions he has. PAULDOR
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Sat 6 Jul 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

PAULDOR wrote:
frank wrote:
it's good someone cares.
unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.
Quite right wonder how much tony blair is chucking in the pot with all the millions he has.
We are living in very hard times for some!!! Never was so much owed by so many to so few, The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. Some blame the chancellor George Osborne but actually to be totally honest he did not cut as hard as he really needed to do, believe it or not. The very least we can all do is get out of all this Left Right political nightmare and start finding the same spirit that got us through the war years. It's time to show some social spirit and turn this mess around. I have great fears and smell fascism it's all around us, don't let this happen folks please help and lets get out of this mess.
[quote][p][bold]PAULDOR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: it's good someone cares. unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.[/p][/quote]Quite right wonder how much tony blair is chucking in the pot with all the millions he has.[/p][/quote]We are living in very hard times for some!!! Never was so much owed by so many to so few, The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. Some blame the chancellor George Osborne but actually to be totally honest he did not cut as hard as he really needed to do, believe it or not. The very least we can all do is get out of all this Left Right political nightmare and start finding the same spirit that got us through the war years. It's time to show some social spirit and turn this mess around. I have great fears and smell fascism it's all around us, don't let this happen folks please help and lets get out of this mess. Michael@ClitheroeSince58
  • Score: 1

8:06pm Sat 6 Jul 13

fireonthemountain says...

Well , I don't know .

I do not know the criteria necessary
for people to receive food parcels .

I am retired - having worked for over 40 years , both as an employee and as an employer .

As such I do have a bit of spare time on my hands . I would be perfectly happy to use my car to deliver food to those in genuine need .

Glad to help . No wages , expenses required . I do care .

However - we have all heard of those who abuse the system .
Getting their food parcels mean that they can upgrade their Sky subscription - more to spend on cider and drugs .

I have no idea of the truth of that .

I am willing to volunteer as said .

Only under the following conditions -

1 - If I deliver to a house with a 50" plasma TV (etc) , it will be the first and last time , and I will name and shame .

2 - I need to know that this is not another pointless "jobs-for-the-boys" scheme , whereby huge amounts of admin posts are created by The Council , with nice new offices and the latest computer systems , to check on peoples entitlement .

Sorry to be cynical .

If I can help - I'm there for those in genuine need .

But I won't be taken for a mug .
Well , I don't know . I do not know the criteria necessary for people to receive food parcels . I am retired - having worked for over 40 years , both as an employee and as an employer . As such I do have a bit of spare time on my hands . I would be perfectly happy to use my car to deliver food to those in genuine need . Glad to help . No wages , expenses required . I do care . However - we have all heard of those who abuse the system . Getting their food parcels mean that they can upgrade their Sky subscription - more to spend on cider and drugs . I have no idea of the truth of that . I am willing to volunteer as said . Only under the following conditions - 1 - If I deliver to a house with a 50" plasma TV (etc) , it will be the first and last time , and I will name and shame . 2 - I need to know that this is not another pointless "jobs-for-the-boys" scheme , whereby huge amounts of admin posts are created by The Council , with nice new offices and the latest computer systems , to check on peoples entitlement . Sorry to be cynical . If I can help - I'm there for those in genuine need . But I won't be taken for a mug . fireonthemountain
  • Score: 5

8:49pm Sat 6 Jul 13

useyourhead says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well , I don't know .

I do not know the criteria necessary
for people to receive food parcels .

I am retired - having worked for over 40 years , both as an employee and as an employer .

As such I do have a bit of spare time on my hands . I would be perfectly happy to use my car to deliver food to those in genuine need .

Glad to help . No wages , expenses required . I do care .

However - we have all heard of those who abuse the system .
Getting their food parcels mean that they can upgrade their Sky subscription - more to spend on cider and drugs .

I have no idea of the truth of that .

I am willing to volunteer as said .

Only under the following conditions -

1 - If I deliver to a house with a 50" plasma TV (etc) , it will be the first and last time , and I will name and shame .

2 - I need to know that this is not another pointless "jobs-for-the-boys" scheme , whereby huge amounts of admin posts are created by The Council , with nice new offices and the latest computer systems , to check on peoples entitlement .

Sorry to be cynical .

If I can help - I'm there for those in genuine need .

But I won't be taken for a mug .
as the article says they have to be referred, either a gp who has a malnourished patient or finds other valid reason, or social services go to visit and there is clearly no food in the house and they are genuinely in need of it. I also think they have only maybe two or three times in a given period that they may be referred, to keep it from becoming something they rely on rather than an emergency only assistance, just what I have read here and there.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well , I don't know . I do not know the criteria necessary for people to receive food parcels . I am retired - having worked for over 40 years , both as an employee and as an employer . As such I do have a bit of spare time on my hands . I would be perfectly happy to use my car to deliver food to those in genuine need . Glad to help . No wages , expenses required . I do care . However - we have all heard of those who abuse the system . Getting their food parcels mean that they can upgrade their Sky subscription - more to spend on cider and drugs . I have no idea of the truth of that . I am willing to volunteer as said . Only under the following conditions - 1 - If I deliver to a house with a 50" plasma TV (etc) , it will be the first and last time , and I will name and shame . 2 - I need to know that this is not another pointless "jobs-for-the-boys" scheme , whereby huge amounts of admin posts are created by The Council , with nice new offices and the latest computer systems , to check on peoples entitlement . Sorry to be cynical . If I can help - I'm there for those in genuine need . But I won't be taken for a mug .[/p][/quote]as the article says they have to be referred, either a gp who has a malnourished patient or finds other valid reason, or social services go to visit and there is clearly no food in the house and they are genuinely in need of it. I also think they have only maybe two or three times in a given period that they may be referred, to keep it from becoming something they rely on rather than an emergency only assistance, just what I have read here and there. useyourhead
  • Score: 0

8:58pm Sat 6 Jul 13

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Well , I don't know .

I do not know the criteria necessary
for people to receive food parcels .

I am retired - having worked for over 40 years , both as an employee and as an employer .

As such I do have a bit of spare time on my hands . I would be perfectly happy to use my car to deliver food to those in genuine need .

Glad to help . No wages , expenses required . I do care .

However - we have all heard of those who abuse the system .
Getting their food parcels mean that they can upgrade their Sky subscription - more to spend on cider and drugs .

I have no idea of the truth of that .

I am willing to volunteer as said .

Only under the following conditions -

1 - If I deliver to a house with a 50" plasma TV (etc) , it will be the first and last time , and I will name and shame .

2 - I need to know that this is not another pointless "jobs-for-the-boys" scheme , whereby huge amounts of admin posts are created by The Council , with nice new offices and the latest computer systems , to check on peoples entitlement .

Sorry to be cynical .

If I can help - I'm there for those in genuine need .

But I won't be taken for a mug .
Good for you fireonthemountain I honestly believe most the bad press came from Maundy Grange at Accrington, I despair at what has been going on at that place. I personally know of drunks and addicts that spend every last penny every weekend knowing they will get fed during the week at Maundy it's a total outrage and has done great harm to ordinary hard pressed folks. I know what I am saying will upset friends of Dorothy McGregor RIP a lovely lady but abused by many as I know only to well. I'm really sorry but some times you have to be cruel to be kind, if what I say upsets it's not my words that hurt its the abuse by others that did the real harm.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: Well , I don't know . I do not know the criteria necessary for people to receive food parcels . I am retired - having worked for over 40 years , both as an employee and as an employer . As such I do have a bit of spare time on my hands . I would be perfectly happy to use my car to deliver food to those in genuine need . Glad to help . No wages , expenses required . I do care . However - we have all heard of those who abuse the system . Getting their food parcels mean that they can upgrade their Sky subscription - more to spend on cider and drugs . I have no idea of the truth of that . I am willing to volunteer as said . Only under the following conditions - 1 - If I deliver to a house with a 50" plasma TV (etc) , it will be the first and last time , and I will name and shame . 2 - I need to know that this is not another pointless "jobs-for-the-boys" scheme , whereby huge amounts of admin posts are created by The Council , with nice new offices and the latest computer systems , to check on peoples entitlement . Sorry to be cynical . If I can help - I'm there for those in genuine need . But I won't be taken for a mug .[/p][/quote]Good for you fireonthemountain I honestly believe most the bad press came from Maundy Grange at Accrington, I despair at what has been going on at that place. I personally know of drunks and addicts that spend every last penny every weekend knowing they will get fed during the week at Maundy it's a total outrage and has done great harm to ordinary hard pressed folks. I know what I am saying will upset friends of Dorothy McGregor RIP a lovely lady but abused by many as I know only to well. I'm really sorry but some times you have to be cruel to be kind, if what I say upsets it's not my words that hurt its the abuse by others that did the real harm. Michael@ClitheroeSince58
  • Score: 2

11:07pm Sat 6 Jul 13

burner says...

michael . . " The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. "
.
Interesting proposal that, michael . . . if you do just that, how, exactly, will you pay for your next litre of petrol or your next bottle of milk ? How will you receive any cash / wage / benefit / pension ?
michael . . " The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. " . Interesting proposal that, michael . . . if you do just that, how, exactly, will you pay for your next litre of petrol or your next bottle of milk ? How will you receive any cash / wage / benefit / pension ? burner
  • Score: 0

11:58pm Sat 6 Jul 13

useyourhead says...

burner wrote:
michael . . " The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. "
.
Interesting proposal that, michael . . . if you do just that, how, exactly, will you pay for your next litre of petrol or your next bottle of milk ? How will you receive any cash / wage / benefit / pension ?
at the touch of a button they can, and most likely will in the near future, deny you said access to your own money. they will be aware of this and will have secured their own wealth elsewhere by the time it happens.
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: michael . . " The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. " . Interesting proposal that, michael . . . if you do just that, how, exactly, will you pay for your next litre of petrol or your next bottle of milk ? How will you receive any cash / wage / benefit / pension ?[/p][/quote]at the touch of a button they can, and most likely will in the near future, deny you said access to your own money. they will be aware of this and will have secured their own wealth elsewhere by the time it happens. useyourhead
  • Score: 1

12:57am Sun 7 Jul 13

Good call says...

burner wrote:
michael . . " The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. "
.
Interesting proposal that, michael . . . if you do just that, how, exactly, will you pay for your next litre of petrol or your next bottle of milk ? How will you receive any cash / wage / benefit / pension ?
Bankers don't generate prosperity, they play around with everyone else's wealth (bank accounts,savings,pen
sions), and if it goes to the wall, they steal your money to prop up their gambling addiction.They are criminals engaged in money laundering and fraud who need life in prison with no chance of release.
[quote][p][bold]burner[/bold] wrote: michael . . " The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. " . Interesting proposal that, michael . . . if you do just that, how, exactly, will you pay for your next litre of petrol or your next bottle of milk ? How will you receive any cash / wage / benefit / pension ?[/p][/quote]Bankers don't generate prosperity, they play around with everyone else's wealth (bank accounts,savings,pen sions), and if it goes to the wall, they steal your money to prop up their gambling addiction.They are criminals engaged in money laundering and fraud who need life in prison with no chance of release. Good call
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10:29am Sun 7 Jul 13

Izanears says...

This is England 2013. With our welfare state there is no need for food banks no matter what spin people put on them. .
This is England 2013. With our welfare state there is no need for food banks no matter what spin people put on them. . Izanears
  • Score: 2

11:05am Sun 7 Jul 13

2 for 5p says...

Please wake up you morons .
I've seen it with my own eyes. People using food banks and then spending there money on fags and beer, and its not just a few of them its the majority.
You are all being taken as mugs.
Please wake up you morons . I've seen it with my own eyes. People using food banks and then spending there money on fags and beer, and its not just a few of them its the majority. You are all being taken as mugs. 2 for 5p
  • Score: -1

11:37am Sun 7 Jul 13

Elegant1 says...

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58
wrote:
PAULDOR wrote:
frank wrote:
it's good someone cares.
unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.
Quite right wonder how much tony blair is chucking in the pot with all the millions he has.
We are living in very hard times for some!!! Never was so much owed by so many to so few, The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. Some blame the chancellor George Osborne but actually to be totally honest he did not cut as hard as he really needed to do, believe it or not. The very least we can all do is get out of all this Left Right political nightmare and start finding the same spirit that got us through the war years. It's time to show some social spirit and turn this mess around. I have great fears and smell fascism it's all around us, don't let this happen folks please help and lets get out of this mess.
I am old enough to remember the war years and understand what is needed to get us out of this mess.
It does not include giving hand-outs to the very rich to the tune of £25.000 for every million owned by those millionaires in the Cabinet and each wealthy Tory backers who bank-roll them. Also Camoron swanning around the world lashing out the money he and Osborne are borrowing in ever increasing record amounts. Do they not keep saying "if you can't afford it you should not be buying it"? Charity begins at home. Do you not see that the Food-banks are receiving record applications for help. Do you not understand that we cannot afford to fund lost causes such as Afghanistan where Camoron has just said he is going to donate £70m per year to fund their military academy while our schools are in need of money to carry out repairs.
The list is endless
[quote][p][bold]Michael@ClitheroeSin ce58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PAULDOR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: it's good someone cares. unlike the millionaires who run this country who enjoy meals subsidised by those visiting the food banks and seem to enjoy inflicting hardship on those at the bottom.[/p][/quote]Quite right wonder how much tony blair is chucking in the pot with all the millions he has.[/p][/quote]We are living in very hard times for some!!! Never was so much owed by so many to so few, The Bankers should be hung from every lamp post in the land. Some blame the chancellor George Osborne but actually to be totally honest he did not cut as hard as he really needed to do, believe it or not. The very least we can all do is get out of all this Left Right political nightmare and start finding the same spirit that got us through the war years. It's time to show some social spirit and turn this mess around. I have great fears and smell fascism it's all around us, don't let this happen folks please help and lets get out of this mess.[/p][/quote]I am old enough to remember the war years and understand what is needed to get us out of this mess. It does not include giving hand-outs to the very rich to the tune of £25.000 for every million owned by those millionaires in the Cabinet and each wealthy Tory backers who bank-roll them. Also Camoron swanning around the world lashing out the money he and Osborne are borrowing in ever increasing record amounts. Do they not keep saying "if you can't afford it you should not be buying it"? Charity begins at home. Do you not see that the Food-banks are receiving record applications for help. Do you not understand that we cannot afford to fund lost causes such as Afghanistan where Camoron has just said he is going to donate £70m per year to fund their military academy while our schools are in need of money to carry out repairs. The list is endless Elegant1
  • Score: 2

4:05pm Sun 7 Jul 13

ToffeeGuy says...

“Everyone that receives a food voucher is assessed and that is important. They are assessed by professionals who identify that they are in crisis.”

I can only presume the assessment goes something like this:-

1. There is a full assessment of the person's finances - weekly income, outgoings etc - to see if anything can be done.

2. A full dietary health plan is given on how not to spend money on chocolate, crisps, booze, fags etc.

3. A full assessment of the person's salable assets. If the person has a widescreen tv, games console etc, assistance is given to take said goods to 'CashConverters'.
“Everyone that receives a food voucher is assessed and that is important. They are assessed by professionals who identify that they are in crisis.” I can only presume the assessment goes something like this:- 1. There is a full assessment of the person's finances - weekly income, outgoings etc - to see if anything can be done. 2. A full dietary health plan is given on how not to spend money on chocolate, crisps, booze, fags etc. 3. A full assessment of the person's salable assets. If the person has a widescreen tv, games console etc, assistance is given to take said goods to 'CashConverters'. ToffeeGuy
  • Score: -1

6:34pm Sun 7 Jul 13

2 for 5p says...

ToffeeGuy wrote:
“Everyone that receives a food voucher is assessed and that is important. They are assessed by professionals who identify that they are in crisis.”

I can only presume the assessment goes something like this:-

1. There is a full assessment of the person's finances - weekly income, outgoings etc - to see if anything can be done.

2. A full dietary health plan is given on how not to spend money on chocolate, crisps, booze, fags etc.

3. A full assessment of the person's salable assets. If the person has a widescreen tv, games console etc, assistance is given to take said goods to 'CashConverters'.
i wish
[quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: “Everyone that receives a food voucher is assessed and that is important. They are assessed by professionals who identify that they are in crisis.” I can only presume the assessment goes something like this:- 1. There is a full assessment of the person's finances - weekly income, outgoings etc - to see if anything can be done. 2. A full dietary health plan is given on how not to spend money on chocolate, crisps, booze, fags etc. 3. A full assessment of the person's salable assets. If the person has a widescreen tv, games console etc, assistance is given to take said goods to 'CashConverters'.[/p][/quote]i wish 2 for 5p
  • Score: 0

6:37pm Sun 7 Jul 13

fireonthemountain says...

No - I cannot agree with this .

I fear that 2for5p is right again .

Toffee - no offence mate , but how on
Earth can someone have a widescreen tv and no food ?

Why would someone need a dietary health plan ? - anyone who spends money on fags and chocolate rather than on fruit and vegetables etc is
certainly in need of help - preferably of the mental type .

Don't ask me to pop their goods into
my car and taxi them to "Cash Converters" .

Who assesses them ?

Income as oppposed to outgoings ?
Are they that thick ?

I have already stated my worry about "jobs for the boys" . Can't help wondering about a "Project Manager" - a "Gateway Assessor" and of course our old friend "Community Solutions" .

Exactly how much are these people paid ?

Where does the money come from ?

How much am I paying - tax and rates for the great unwashed to leech off me ?

And - as I have said before - the most popular destinations in Darwen are -

1 - the dole office , gimme mor benyfitz .
2 - Greggs - where they provide their kiddywinks with their one hot meal of the day . A pastie .
3 - Anywhere they can buy their next fix .

Pathetic .

Still , at least Andy Murray won !!
No - I cannot agree with this . I fear that 2for5p is right again . Toffee - no offence mate , but how on Earth can someone have a widescreen tv and no food ? Why would someone need a dietary health plan ? - anyone who spends money on fags and chocolate rather than on fruit and vegetables etc is certainly in need of help - preferably of the mental type . Don't ask me to pop their goods into my car and taxi them to "Cash Converters" . Who assesses them ? Income as oppposed to outgoings ? Are they that thick ? I have already stated my worry about "jobs for the boys" . Can't help wondering about a "Project Manager" - a "Gateway Assessor" and of course our old friend "Community Solutions" . Exactly how much are these people paid ? Where does the money come from ? How much am I paying - tax and rates for the great unwashed to leech off me ? And - as I have said before - the most popular destinations in Darwen are - 1 - the dole office , gimme mor benyfitz . 2 - Greggs - where they provide their kiddywinks with their one hot meal of the day . A pastie . 3 - Anywhere they can buy their next fix . Pathetic . Still , at least Andy Murray won !! fireonthemountain
  • Score: 2

8:43pm Sun 7 Jul 13

Good call says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
No - I cannot agree with this .

I fear that 2for5p is right again .

Toffee - no offence mate , but how on
Earth can someone have a widescreen tv and no food ?

Why would someone need a dietary health plan ? - anyone who spends money on fags and chocolate rather than on fruit and vegetables etc is
certainly in need of help - preferably of the mental type .

Don't ask me to pop their goods into
my car and taxi them to "Cash Converters" .

Who assesses them ?

Income as oppposed to outgoings ?
Are they that thick ?

I have already stated my worry about "jobs for the boys" . Can't help wondering about a "Project Manager" - a "Gateway Assessor" and of course our old friend "Community Solutions" .

Exactly how much are these people paid ?

Where does the money come from ?

How much am I paying - tax and rates for the great unwashed to leech off me ?

And - as I have said before - the most popular destinations in Darwen are -

1 - the dole office , gimme mor benyfitz .
2 - Greggs - where they provide their kiddywinks with their one hot meal of the day . A pastie .
3 - Anywhere they can buy their next fix .

Pathetic .

Still , at least Andy Murray won !!
People are starving and are being sent to food banks but who cares eh, someone's won a game of tennis!!!

People can't walk into the foodbank and just pick food up, they have to be referred by social services, police constables or health workers etc. My take on this is that there are two possibilities;
1. Social services, Lancashire Constabulary , School staff and the NHS are being bribed and/or engaged in a conspiracy to give "scrougers" free food.
2.There are peo
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: No - I cannot agree with this . I fear that 2for5p is right again . Toffee - no offence mate , but how on Earth can someone have a widescreen tv and no food ? Why would someone need a dietary health plan ? - anyone who spends money on fags and chocolate rather than on fruit and vegetables etc is certainly in need of help - preferably of the mental type . Don't ask me to pop their goods into my car and taxi them to "Cash Converters" . Who assesses them ? Income as oppposed to outgoings ? Are they that thick ? I have already stated my worry about "jobs for the boys" . Can't help wondering about a "Project Manager" - a "Gateway Assessor" and of course our old friend "Community Solutions" . Exactly how much are these people paid ? Where does the money come from ? How much am I paying - tax and rates for the great unwashed to leech off me ? And - as I have said before - the most popular destinations in Darwen are - 1 - the dole office , gimme mor benyfitz . 2 - Greggs - where they provide their kiddywinks with their one hot meal of the day . A pastie . 3 - Anywhere they can buy their next fix . Pathetic . Still , at least Andy Murray won !![/p][/quote]People are starving and are being sent to food banks but who cares eh, someone's won a game of tennis!!! People can't walk into the foodbank and just pick food up, they have to be referred by social services, police constables or health workers etc. My take on this is that there are two possibilities; 1. Social services, Lancashire Constabulary , School staff and the NHS are being bribed and/or engaged in a conspiracy to give "scrougers" free food. 2.There are peo Good call
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8:47pm Sun 7 Jul 13

Good call says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
No - I cannot agree with this .

I fear that 2for5p is right again .

Toffee - no offence mate , but how on
Earth can someone have a widescreen tv and no food ?

Why would someone need a dietary health plan ? - anyone who spends money on fags and chocolate rather than on fruit and vegetables etc is
certainly in need of help - preferably of the mental type .

Don't ask me to pop their goods into
my car and taxi them to "Cash Converters" .

Who assesses them ?

Income as oppposed to outgoings ?
Are they that thick ?

I have already stated my worry about "jobs for the boys" . Can't help wondering about a "Project Manager" - a "Gateway Assessor" and of course our old friend "Community Solutions" .

Exactly how much are these people paid ?

Where does the money come from ?

How much am I paying - tax and rates for the great unwashed to leech off me ?

And - as I have said before - the most popular destinations in Darwen are -

1 - the dole office , gimme mor benyfitz .
2 - Greggs - where they provide their kiddywinks with their one hot meal of the day . A pastie .
3 - Anywhere they can buy their next fix .

Pathetic .

Still , at least Andy Murray won !!
People are starving and are being sent to food banks but who cares eh, someone's won a game of tennis!!!

People can't walk into the foodbank and just pick food up, they have to be referred by social services, police constables or health workers etc. My take on this is that there are two possibilities;
1. Social services, Lancashire Constabulary , School staff and the NHS are being bribed and/or engaged in a conspiracy to give "scrougers" free food.
2.There are people in genuine need of food.

P.S You mention people leeching off of your taxes, so what do you reckon of the ro*al family.(I refuse to say that they are ro*al, that implies that they are better than others for no other reason than who they were born to)
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: No - I cannot agree with this . I fear that 2for5p is right again . Toffee - no offence mate , but how on Earth can someone have a widescreen tv and no food ? Why would someone need a dietary health plan ? - anyone who spends money on fags and chocolate rather than on fruit and vegetables etc is certainly in need of help - preferably of the mental type . Don't ask me to pop their goods into my car and taxi them to "Cash Converters" . Who assesses them ? Income as oppposed to outgoings ? Are they that thick ? I have already stated my worry about "jobs for the boys" . Can't help wondering about a "Project Manager" - a "Gateway Assessor" and of course our old friend "Community Solutions" . Exactly how much are these people paid ? Where does the money come from ? How much am I paying - tax and rates for the great unwashed to leech off me ? And - as I have said before - the most popular destinations in Darwen are - 1 - the dole office , gimme mor benyfitz . 2 - Greggs - where they provide their kiddywinks with their one hot meal of the day . A pastie . 3 - Anywhere they can buy their next fix . Pathetic . Still , at least Andy Murray won !![/p][/quote]People are starving and are being sent to food banks but who cares eh, someone's won a game of tennis!!! People can't walk into the foodbank and just pick food up, they have to be referred by social services, police constables or health workers etc. My take on this is that there are two possibilities; 1. Social services, Lancashire Constabulary , School staff and the NHS are being bribed and/or engaged in a conspiracy to give "scrougers" free food. 2.There are people in genuine need of food. P.S You mention people leeching off of your taxes, so what do you reckon of the ro*al family.(I refuse to say that they are ro*al, that implies that they are better than others for no other reason than who they were born to) Good call
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9:58pm Sun 7 Jul 13

fireonthemountain says...

Calm down dear .

If I read your post correctly , not easy , as your punctuation and use of pronouns is atrocious , you seem to suggest that -

1 - The Police (etc) are being bribed to
give out free food .

2 - Somehow this is also the fault of The Royal Family .

What nonsense .

Wimbledon has put over a BILLION pounds into Great Britain's economy this year alone .

Personally I am proud of the fact that we won - this will encourage sport , as did The Olympics last year .

Now - let us be specific about one of your points .

"There are people in genuine need of food" .

Correct .

School children who are sent out with nothing in their stomachs .
By parents who really have no idea .

How sad .
Calm down dear . If I read your post correctly , not easy , as your punctuation and use of pronouns is atrocious , you seem to suggest that - 1 - The Police (etc) are being bribed to give out free food . 2 - Somehow this is also the fault of The Royal Family . What nonsense . Wimbledon has put over a BILLION pounds into Great Britain's economy this year alone . Personally I am proud of the fact that we won - this will encourage sport , as did The Olympics last year . Now - let us be specific about one of your points . "There are people in genuine need of food" . Correct . School children who are sent out with nothing in their stomachs . By parents who really have no idea . How sad . fireonthemountain
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11:55pm Sun 7 Jul 13

2 for 5p says...

BE WARNED.
Not having food for your children is a form of abuse. I will report to social services anyone I see using a food bank.
BE WARNED. Not having food for your children is a form of abuse. I will report to social services anyone I see using a food bank. 2 for 5p
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9:26pm Mon 8 Jul 13

fireonthemountain says...

Well , I agree with 2 for 5p again !!

Spent some time today looking into food banks and school breakfast clubs .

I copy and paste from The Guardian newspaper as follows.....

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As the new school year gets under way, Louise Nichols's experience is being confirmed by data from across the country. In a recent survey from the Guardian Teacher Network, 83% of teachers said they were seeing pupils who were coming to school hungry; 55% said up to a quarter of their kids were turning up having not eaten enough. Almost 50% admitted they had bought food with their own money to give to pupils. Teachers talk about children fainting in class or in the playground; about children whose behaviour is so erratic they have considered excluding them, until they discovered they were simply hungry. They talk about anxious or fretful children who can't put a name to what is troubling them, because they are too hungry to focus on the problem.

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This is atrocious .

For certain posters to blame the bankers and/or the Royal Family , well
that shows their level of intelligence .

If an adult (not counting those who are
severly disabled , for whom I have the greatest sympathy) cannot feed themselves , them I have feelings for them close to contempt .

If a child goes hungry , then the parent is beneath contempt .

Good luck 2 for 5p , I wish you well .
Do it mate !
Well , I agree with 2 for 5p again !! Spent some time today looking into food banks and school breakfast clubs . I copy and paste from The Guardian newspaper as follows..... ---------- As the new school year gets under way, Louise Nichols's experience is being confirmed by data from across the country. In a recent survey from the Guardian Teacher Network, 83% of teachers said they were seeing pupils who were coming to school hungry; 55% said up to a quarter of their kids were turning up having not eaten enough. Almost 50% admitted they had bought food with their own money to give to pupils. Teachers talk about children fainting in class or in the playground; about children whose behaviour is so erratic they have considered excluding them, until they discovered they were simply hungry. They talk about anxious or fretful children who can't put a name to what is troubling them, because they are too hungry to focus on the problem. ---------- This is atrocious . For certain posters to blame the bankers and/or the Royal Family , well that shows their level of intelligence . If an adult (not counting those who are severly disabled , for whom I have the greatest sympathy) cannot feed themselves , them I have feelings for them close to contempt . If a child goes hungry , then the parent is beneath contempt . Good luck 2 for 5p , I wish you well . Do it mate ! fireonthemountain
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